I believe you can pay life iwth that in play, which makes Necro and Bargain LOLz.

I like how some random scumbag do-nothing can have an opinion...

As you're well aware, we're not big on flames here at TMD and this is clearly a flame. In light of your general conduct, and in particular given your recent placement on Restricted Posting following the issuing of a final warning, you are banned.
-Godder

TMD is already as Noob and idiot-friendly as we can get, Stephen.

Ugh.  I'm not even gunna bother.  It's not like TMD has been relivent in 4 years.

And people wonder why TheManaDrain.com is now looked at as a joke?  Two years ago, Marske would be put on Restricted posting for this, now it's just a Joke?


TMD = a Joke.

I played faeries, and went 3-2.  Missing the cut.

This logic is both entirely flawed and assumes you're still running other suboptimal cards in your deck.

This is serious to anyone in that area.  This has potential to be Level 5 when it hits. 

Merfolk Spirit Guide
2U
Creature-Merfolk Wizard
If Merfolk Spirit Guide is in your hand, you may exile it to add to your mana pool.
2/2

It's not a flame war, it's an attempt to show you how ridiculously awful Timetwister is in The Deck.  Everyone is playing powerful cards right now.  This isn't the Prehistoric Age, where the only real thing black lotus did was cast your Shivan Dragons earlier than theirs.   Timetwister is the worst possible card EVER right now, because every deck sans fish is just a combo deck.   Randomly giving your oponent the nuts = really extremely loose play.

Actually, that was as I stated a Legitimate post, considering you've got 40ish posts and are already on restricted posting.  That, and you're giving no really valuable information other than "this card is right... derrr".


I'md one with this post.  I just hope at some point we get paired in a tournament, and you cast twister against me with a control deck.

And all your reasons are wrong.  Have you played vintage in the current format, or are you just some random poster who has zero real tournament wins under his belt but likes to argue for the sake of argument like other trolls on these boards?  This is not a flame, but a legitimate question.

I had an opponent timetwister me when he was playing Marske's tezz deck.   Unfortunately for him, it gave him 2 Fows and a Mana Drain, but it gave me Recall, DT, Key, and Tinker.     

Twister belongs in Combo decks.  NOT control decks.

I'm going to Elaborate more.

You can't be quoting a Weissman deck from 1996.  That's 14 years ago.

Second.  Timetwister is NEVER taking away advantage.  80% of the decks in this format play WAY more busted cards than you do, so giving them a fresh 7 just resets everyting you're trying to do.  

Twister when you're up is STILL the wrong play.   Absolutely wrong.  1000%.     Saying twister is the right play in "the deck" is like saying you won a boxing match by hitting your opponent with a stuffed hippopotamous.  It's just not fucking possible.

It's the difference between winning tournaments and just being some random poster on TMD.


^  Seriously?   This statement is true in the same way that King Kong fighting Godzilla in the sea of japan is true.  

(AKA It's just plain fiction).

You're playing a control deck.  timetwister is counter-productive to fucking everything ever that your deck is trying to accomplish.

I know if you wasted two of my lands and had countered 3 of my best spells, i'd have a fucking orgasm if you gave me seven new cards to beat you with.


So no sir, YOU are just plain fuckin' wrong.   

What would a case of Japanese boosters cost?

I work at Kohler Company as a National Sales Accounts Coordinator.

I have my BA in Computer Science and Business Management. 

Realistically, this would help the format.



Leyline of the Cleansing Seal    1GW
Enchantment
If Leyline of the Cleansing Seal is in your hand when you start the game, you may start with leyline of the Cleansing Seal in play.

*shroud*
Exile Leyline of the Cleansing Seal:  Destroy target artifact or enchantment. 

The lists I've seen lately in this thread are so far and beyond AWAY from what The Deck is designed to do.  I vomit in my mouth seeing these.    I will elaborate more if I remember, after my lunch, but basically:

DONT PLAY TIMETWISTER, EVER.

Don't play Key-vault.

Don't cut Leyline-Helm from the main.

Don't run a robot other than Inkwell right now.

Don't run two robots.  You're not slaver.

People should go to this  Regardless of prize, basically because it's fucking WATERBURY.  This tournament has been the Pinicle of Vintage for as long as I can remember (playin vintage since '04)


I look at it this way:

Waterbury:  The Superbowl of Vintage.
Gencon:  The Pro Bowl.   Some pro's simply don't go.


Unfortunately, I can't make this as I don't have vacation @ my job and am not yet completely financially stable.  I WILL*** make a Waterbury eventually.

I'd rather just play chalice to see if it gets countered, then run out sphere.  If chalice gets countered, you drop the other.  If not, you follow up with chalice@1 next turn.

The Karn Plainswalker is obviously fake.  Why make a plainswalker indestructible?  that makes a ton of confusion, as many players will assume he does not lose loyalty when attacked.

also
-5 to return ALL artifacts.  That means it would return itself, and also allow you to use his ability AGAIN.    NO. FUCKING. WAY.

A community near us?   Someone is getting donkey punched if there is ANOTHER big event out East, but nothing in the REAL vintage capital (the midwest; home to YOUR vintage champion).

The only thing that can save this format.

Instant 0
Split Second
Absolute zero:  This card costs zero, even if other cards would make it cost more.
Exile target Artifact, Creature, or Planeswalker.  Exhile this spell upon Resolution.
0:  Return this card from your graveyard to your hand.  Play this ability at Instant Speed as if it had Split Second.
This card has Shroud as long as it's in the graveyard.

I love when people who are as correct as a homosexual black man at a Klan rally talk about making plays.   You definitely chalice @ 0 and then play Thorn.  if he counters your thorn, you STILL have chalice @ 1 next turn.  If he fights for the chalice, you have another one to stick.

my favorite play against someone who just plays a thorn/sphere, is to go "land(tap) Mana Crpyt (tap) mox, Lotus, go".

when?  Monday, September 6th
where?  Gnome Games Tournament Center;  Green Bay, Wisconsin
What Time?  11am Registration, Noon start
cost?  25.00 dollars
Proxies?  10, +0.50 per extra
Prize?   An Unlimited Mox (to be Determined)

http://www.gnomegames.com/


Location:  Gnome Games Tournament Center - 2160 Ridge Road (4 blocks south of Lambeau Field!)   

I think it's best to not have a Tinker bot.  Actually, I think playing Time Vault is boring.  Hense why I played Doomsday.

Or plowshares, which most Noble Fish decks main 3.

Even fish runs Jace.

My point is that people are too quick to run out tinker.  But stax has Tangle Wires x4 and Karn to deal with that, Smokestack, and just racing you.

That's another reason I just hate Trygon Predator (Besides the fact that it has anal herpies).

And why would "Tinker in the control mirror match" be relevant when it's Tez vs. Shops?
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Because Tinker is awful against Control 90% of the time, Combo 99% of the time, and Shops 60% of the time.  It's only ever relivant versus heavy aggro strategies, which aren't really in the metagame right now.

I tell ya though, if I'm sitting next to Amby Duck, I'm aggro-Mulliganing to tinker