I must say that Dave was my most impressive opponent of the day, simply due to the sense of humor and pure comic relief that was SO needed after 13 f***ing hours of magic.  I have a feeling that, based on the way dave was playing his deck, 9 out of 10 people would have lost against me.  I haven't seen oshawa played so well, ever, and for those excellent matches I am thankful.  I look forward to playing you again soon sir.

anybody see FCG or play against it there?

I have a real good idea of how to play these because at one point or another I've had these made and have been playing them, only to get a good feel for what does what.  The only deck I havent played myself was madness, but most of that deck is common sense and I've seen it played enough times.



I don't own enough power and whatnot to run them with tourneys allowing  only 5 proxies.  Right now that decklist is 10 proxy legal only.  The only power I actually own is an Ancestral.  



Quite right, I should definately add those.

Alright so I'm going back to my old roots and playing mono blue control.  I've had a lot of good games with mono u, but decks that have huge amounts of threats concern me.  Here's the list:

Sources (21):
16 Island
1 Strip
1 LoA
1 Sol Ring
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire

Counters/Control (20):
4 Force of Will
4 Mana Drain
4 Nevinyrrals Disk
3 Counterspell
3 Mana Leak
2 MisD

Card Draw/Search (15):
4 AK
4 Brainstorm
3 Deep Analysis
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Gush
1 Merchant Scroll

Creatures (6):
4 Ophidian
2 Morphling

SB:
3 Propaganda
3 Stifle
3 Tormods Crypt
3 Back to Basics
3 Chalice

Playtesting breakdown:

W/L ratios removed for obvious reasons.
-- Toad

My testing method was netdecking most of the above decks onto apprentice, then having my deck on a table and just playing it out.  There was no prejudice in the games so my results arent skewed.  The mirror was Tourloukas' from hadley (got from morphling.de), slaver was my build, Control Slaver and GAT were on the forum here.  Hulk, FCG, dragon, madness, and gro were from morphling.de and were top 4 decks from different tournaments.

Let the comments fly, I'm interested to hear what people think.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I wasnt asking you to organize this at all, just curious as to the opinion of people about the prize setup.  I dont much care at all if you want to organize this or not, I know the reporter and everything else I need to do this myself, and I'm sure that other people there wouldn't mind answering questions if I had any.  You're not the end-all for hadley power tournies Ben so you should probably rid yourself of that mindset.

In regards to the proxies, you are right meddling mage, and I think a budget tourney for an ancestral would be more gay than a bunch of powered netdecks for an ancestral.  whats a good number to do...10 seems resonable, and I don't think anybody wants it higher than that.

Double post. Fixed.  - Bram

I know someone mentioned having another Hadley tournament sometime this month, and I had an idea for the prize structure if I was to offer it up. It looks something like this
1st - Unlimited Ancestral Recall (Yes i own one now, card is in good shape, only showing slight wear on the edges)
2nd - Playset of Tropical Islands (Only full playset I own currently, all are in NM shape)
3rd - Morphling, or some other decently price(d) cards (NM shape for morphling)

If everyone who would possibly go would let me know what they think of this structure, that would be great.  I figure at $15 a person, 30 people would have to show up to make this even.  I would most likely use 5 proxy ruling not 10, mostly because netdecking is gay and a lot of people abuse 10 proxy rights.  So lets hear what ya'll think.

I know someone mentioned having another Hadley tournament sometime this month, and I had an idea for the prize structure if I was to offer it up.  It looks something like this
1st - Unlimited Ancestral Recall (Yes i own one now)
2nd - Playset of Tropical Islands (Only full playset I own currently)
3rd - Morpling, or some other decently price(d) cards

Let me know what you think of this structure.  I figure at $15 a person, 30 people would have to show up to make this even.

Off topic:
Civics are gay and for people who cant handle real power, B18c's are for cars that are worth driving, especially type r b18c's.  

On topic:
Now I understand why you guys were trying to calculate the results before actually playing.  In the end, it was better that you just played anyway.  I like the build caleb, i was playing a similiar deck and placed 11th.

My personal opinion is that, as a standard, 5 is resonable, and 10 is desireable.  My view is that, if you own all of the power 9(10), and with an additional 10 proxies you cant beat some noob who proxies power and drains, then its your fault for having no deck building skill whatsoever.  Theres no excuse for owning power, being givin 10 proxies, and then losing to someone who only proxied power, if anything it gives the power owners MORE of an advantage.  

There should be MORE tournaments that allow unlimited number of proxies, simply because that tournament wouldnt revolve around what you own, it would revolve around how skillful you are.  The people who always win tournaments in a 5 or 10 proxy format should still always win tournaments in an unlimited format, because that shows their true skill and knowledge of the game.  I know I would T4 every tournament I went to if I was allowed unlimited proxies, and I know there are huge amounts of people who feel the same way.

Morphling.de homepage


Unless they have been known to make April fools day jokes, this is going to be an interesting change, considering the CE cards are way easier to find at the current time.

Could someone please investigate further to determine if this is indeed no joke?

Thanks for the clarification dozer, I wasn't sure if once you hit the bottom of the library and there is no cards left, you just put them on the bottom in any order and continue, which would make an infinite loop.

I'm not exactly sure how this combo works if, say, you have the bayou in play, and then you draw into the tropical island.  If you have the only two lands in your deck in your hand and in play, how does the belcher stop?

Couple things missing:

Why only one artifact land??  The reason that the deck is called ravager affinity is you play affinity for artifact dudes for virtually free, then beat the crap out of the sad looking opponent.  Frogmites and Myr Enforcers NEED to be in here, as well as some seat of the synods.

What is this decks' answer to an opponents turn one looking like "land, sol ring, null rod, go"?  If you're playin T1 at least run mana leak and/or force of will, because every smart T1 player that isnt running an artifact based deck will have at least 2 null rod in the board, and a deck like this DESPERATELY needs an answer to that.

A rather overlooked card that goes by the name of chromatic sphere is amazing in this deck.

Things I like:
The current creatures you have is good, I wouldnt remove any of them.
In your utility section, I like everything except the helms and maybe even the yawg will.  This deck will win so fast that yawg will may just slow it down more by being a card in your hand that you dont want/need.

Your mana section is nice.

In the lands, firebird is right, the workshops arent really needed here, and unless you own 4 workshops, its really a waste of proxies.  You would be amazed at what more artifact lands, and 2 more glimmervoids could do.

Does DM eliminate the abilities of Goblin Lackey, Seige Gang, piledriver, and the rest of the lethal goblin abilities in sligh?  Thanks

I've just aquired my tax returns, and I've got a good chunk of change to spend on some cards, so I'm looking for anybody selling duals, power, or high trade rares like bazaar, LoA, etc.  If you'd like to post your prices thats fine, but you can also email me at midniteblaze04@aol.com with your lists and prices.  I will get back to those with reasonable deals, thanks everyone.

Tom

Well there definately are lackys, i listed 4.  I agree with shock, and i only have one goblin grenade so i didnt know if i should use it.  What should replace the incinerates?  Those are the only other good damage source with the exception of the chain lightning I dont have.  I understand blood moon should be in the board, and i like the pillars in the main.

I need some assistance with my gob-sligh deck for an upcoming tournament next month.  I've been working on this for a while, and it really holds ground against most decks I've played.  I'd appreciate any suggestions, heres the list:

(61) cards:

Sources (17):
15 Mountains
Black Lotus
Mox Ruby

Creatures (26):
4 Goblin Recruiter (owns blue control)
4 Goblin Piledriver
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Seige-Gang Commander
4 Goblin Lackey
3 Goblin Goon
3 Goblin Warchief

Spells (18):
4 Incinerate
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Pyrostatic Pillar ( PWNS combo)
2 Blood Moon (yes, main deck)
2 Reckless Charge
2 Shock

SB (15):
4 REB
3 Tormod's Crypt
2 Null Rod
2 Rack and Ruin
2 Blood Moon
1 Chalice of the Void
1 Pulverize

For explanations, you would think that the pyrostatic pillars hurt me more than help, but in actuality, a deck like TPS that doesnt USUALLY run control or counters, those can be rather hurtful.  

The main deck blood moon are just obvious, its very rare to have a T1 player NOT using duals.  

I would say the one thing I definately want to add is Price of Progress, because thats just ownage.  So any help on making this deck have a chance would be appreciated, thanks.

Tom

It absolutely has to be on the first saturday or sunday of the month.  So as long as everything goes to plan, it will be april 3rd(saturday) or the 4th(sunday).  Prizes and entry fees are going to be subject to the # of entrants, but there will be a mox for first no matter what.  If 10 people show up, we're goin to have to raise the entrance fees, obviously.  Figure it this way, if 10 people show up, you'll be paying $25 to have a 1/10 chance of winning a mox, but i dont think that there will be a problem with contestants showing up.  It's gonna be 10 proxies for the tourney, and the mox is going to be a ruby, jet, or emerald.  I figure that hadley just had a tourney for a sapphire, and pearls arent REALLY that sought after, so i personally would like to see a ruby up.  But id like to know what you all think so just add ur personal choice to your posts please!

Tom

Yea ben you did a real good job at hadley, Id be glad to have you help us out here.  I'll probably see you at The Collectors Corner this saturday for the tourney if you go, but yeah I'll IM you sometime about it.

I was thinking that because there aren't very many people up in orange that play the game as religiously as some others, we should allow 10 proxies...I know that this board will blow up with both happy and angry people, and this number is still negotiable, but for all intensive purposes the more people that show up the better.  I've heard that there are a LOT of people who play in orange, and the more proxies that are allowed the more players that will show up, but thats my opinion.  Id like to hear some opinions about why you think 5 is a good idea, or 10 is a good idea.  In regards to entrance fees, im assuming that if mox "X" costs us $250 to pick up, and the combination of 2nd/3rd prize is like $100, then thats $350 coming out of their pockets.  I dont think that getting 35 people to pay $10 would be a problem, and the goal is to at least make this place some money, even if its just $50.  So I can make this promise, you can count on the entrance fee being less than $15.  The ONLY way that the cost will go over $15 per person is if 20 or less people show up.  I dont mind losing some money to this tournament if i can get a bunch of people to have a great time, but I'm rather tight for funds at the moment and I'd rather not have a huge risk on my hands.  Thanks all

Tom

P.S.  If you are wondering, this will be run properly with deck registration.  If anybody knows the name of the program that ryan and rich use at hadley for the tournaments they hold, or something very similar, PLEASE post where I can find it and what its called, thx again.

there is a very good possiblility that my friend and I will convince this non-profit movie theatre owner to have a type 1 magic tournament, and hopefully he'll put up enough money to purchase a mox and some other good cards for 2nd/3rd, as long as we make the money back in entrance fees.  the theatre is 2 mins from the center of orange, mass, and im just wondering how many people would be interested?

tom