I meant Relic and Jailer.

First of all, Jitte should certainly be in that list.  An active Jitte puts you ahead of whatever aggro match you are facing, period.  When I run fish, I usually include it as a 3-of in the board.

I'm not sure how scared of Ichorid you are, but I know some people on these boards advocate 8 slots dedicated to that archetype.  While I believe that depends on how often you are expected to see it, I do think that at least 6 cards are necessary.  I like Relic and Extirpate, but it seems everyone's tastes are different.

If you're willing to splash red for REB, go for it.  Personally, I'm much happier with the white addition as it gives access to maindeck Meddling Mage and many more sideboard options.  White also strengthens your oath matchup considerably with Ray of Relevation.  White also has Serenity for stax, which seems quite good on paper.

So, I was looking through my old binders yesterday and I came across this card:



Could this be an alternative to Vial that can be cast alongside Null Rod?

Pros:

• Can put creatures in play regardless of casting cost
• One sided (unlike Oath)
• Works with Null Rod

Cons:

• More difficult casting cost than Vial
• Needs Threshold
• Relies on your opponent casting a spell

While it is possible that a new deck would have to be designed from the ground up to take advantage of this card, it does seem like a "Vialish" card that can be used along with Null Rod.  Threshold doesn't seem to be too much of a problem in a deck that takes advantage of fetchlands, cheap (free) counters, stifle, and cheap draw.  The time it takes to get threshold could be equated to the time Vial takes to ramp up.

In any case, I just thought the card was somewhat interesting and I'd love to hear thoughts as to whether it could be playable.

I agree with this statement.  In fact, this was my original point.  Stifle IS much more broken on the first fetchland which causes you to wait and give up precious time where you could be casting threats and/or disruption pieces.  In an ideal situation, I feel that stifle is amazing.  Also, I feel that when Brainstorm was legal as a 4x, stifle was MUCH more powerful.  With the way things are in vintage at the moment, I feel that stifle is lacking.

As for Null Rod, almost every time I've resolved one, my opponent looked very ill (or very frustrated at the absolute least).  If you play on winning with grizzly bears, Null Rod seems like a natural inclusion as it shuts down over 1/6th of most of the Vintage decks.  In addition, it single-handedly shuts down the most played (and most powerful) 2 card combo currently in Vintage.  Combine this with an assortment of other disruption spells/creatures and I believe it is a very powerful anti-strategy that hits the majority of current Vintage powerhouses.

@Guli:
I was really curious about your experiences with Canonist.  I've tried her as sideboard against any type of storm/TPS.  In almost every instance where she resolved, the TPS player would tutor up either Hurkyl's Recall or Rebuild and take out my Null Rod and Canonist at the same time.  Do you really feel that it is up to par with your other disruption creatures?

Hey Noah,  I played against you at the last Waterbury event and I was quite impressed with this deck (and your performance) and have been following this thread since. 

My question for you (as well as anyone else who has piloted a similar version of this deck) is to explain the usefulness of 4x Stifle.  I understand the incredible tempo advantage involved in stifling an early fetchland.  However, with Hierarch as well as numerous 2-drops, it seems that you would be forced to hold back waiting for your opponent to crack the turn 1 fetchland instead of playing a threat (or disruption piece like Null Rod).  It just seems that there needs to be a somewhat ideal condition in order for Stifle to meet its full potential.

I understand that Stifle has plenty of other uses as well (especially with respect to tempo), but it just seems that something much stronger could fit in that slot.  For instance, perhaps 2x Misdirection and 2x Negate strengthening your counter base to ensure your threats/disruption pieces stay on the table.  In any case, I would appreciate any feedback on how Stifle has performed in any of its uses.

Also, I would like to comment on Qasali Pridemage.  I agree 100% that this card fits perfectly with the theme of the deck and adds a powerful disruption piece to the already very strong disruption package presented.  It seems that aside from chalice @2, this choice is far superior to the maindeck 3cc Trygon Predator.

Yes, I'm aware that Stifle deals with chalice @2.  Is that one of the reasons of its inclusion?

Thanks in advance for the replies and great job with the deck.