Megrim/Jar was a pretty different animal.

Any thoughts on 4 entomb dragon?

The way I look at it, and I'm sure most others do as well, is that the cut obviously doesn't serve in place of a shuffle, but rather to avoid letting an opponent stack their deck. This works, because they don't know where you're going to cut. It is absolutely not meant to replace shuffling.

Mana Crypt is definitely better than Mox Pearl, which is essentially colorless mana to you anyway. I can't really see a reason not to run that or at least Sol Ring.

Right, Keaton is the guy with the U/B control deck.
edit: Oh please, refer to me as

The artist formerly known as Crater Hellion

I didn't want to split cause I had a good matchup vs. Greg as well as a joke of a matchup vs Broodstar.  
I played vs Gay/R, an opponent who I combo'ed off turn one and turn 2 without disruption, thus not finding out what they're playing, that U/B control deck I combo'ed off on turn 1 and 2 with disruption, and Oath. I Unmasked him and took something else (most likely a counter?) and then he dropped Oath and one of the creatures, I almost wanted to activate it just for uber-silliness. All in all it was a pretty good time even though we obviously didn't have enough people because of Waterbury.

Type One was changed so dramatically by Mirrodin- I don't see how you could feel that way. Ask yourself what decks are good now, and then ask yourself what was good before Mirrodin. Entire new archetypes were spawned!

http://www.themanadrain.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6411

I'm not sure if anyone actually gets "promoted" but hey, it keeps us all trying to make decent posts.

actually awsome isn't a word

 

I'm not going- my parents won't let me despite the fact my brother lives in the town. Go figure!

Because we're playing Type One. Let's take the most reactive deck I can think of- Keeper for example. Keeper is obviously a control deck, no doubt. But, if it couldn't ever have accelerated starts (faster than +1 mana/turn) it would just suck. That's why budget decks are worse than real decks.

If only it were an instant. As it is, I think Sleight is better. Since both are sorceries you're playing them agressively- Sleight lets you do more choosing now where the 5D one's really only decent if you're going to Ancestral or Brainstorm after. It's kind of like how I always get left with the slops with Chamberlain's sister.

Here's what someone linked me to.

http://www.magicdeckvortex.com/VS_fifth_dawn.htm

The expansion symbol is looking pretty badass- looks so far like the set presents a lot of really cool cards for casual, but nothing much for t1 yet.

EDIT: Changed the link to a non-Farked site and deleted the like 5 posts saying that the old link didn't work -jpmeyer

When we (firefall and I) played, you didn't lose for running out of cards. Maybe this is something to consider?

Multani is pretty badass.

Wow I posted it after you there too. You're just the bad card king!

Please Matt, I posted Engineered Plague way back in the day on Feanor's thread about tourneys he was having where every deck used 25 creatures of the same type  

Wait that doesn't make me better, it just makes me sad.  

Would Wild Mongrel work? I've been having a hard time pitching things to the grave (for Welder).

There you go.

Why aren't you running the fourth Wasteland? I'm not telling you to put it in definitely (yet) but I'd like to hear your rationalization for not running such a solid card, and instead opting for worse "disruption" cards (Chalice, Sphere).

Buy a sharpie.



But seriously, if you can feel/see the difference between Alpha/Beta cards through opaque sleeves, then you need new sleeves. With CE- you can see or feel to make sure the once CE card you play with (which happens to be, say, Ancestral) will be on top every time.

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Obviously, the card has one triggered ability. In the judge's answer, the "Both triggered abilities" he's referring to are obviously that of the Crypt and of Umbilicus- not "both triggers of Crypt". Hope that helped clear it up.

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Kidding, of course... but not really. Supposedly there's a "committee" who filter out those who deserve full memberships based on a given member's contributions to the forum.

I really wish this site had a link to magictraders.com off the home page so this didn't happen and no one needed to complain about trading not being allowed through TMD.

This is, essentially, a casual deck that I almost completely netdecked off Mattdog and NaClhv.. how cool am I? I really always wanted to try it, but it's obviously a joke in a tournament setting regardless of what its creators may think.

//GiveItAwayNow(the beats, that is) (7)
3 Meddling Mage
2 Psychatog
1 Devout Witness
1 Exalted Angel

//HigherGround (9)
4 Scroll Rack
4 Land Tax (8 basics)
1 Zuran Orb

//Save the Population (10)
4 Force of Will (17 blue)
2 Swords to Plowshares
1 Balance
1 Mind Twist
2 Back to Basics (again, 8 basics)

//Breaking the Girl (10)
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Regrowth
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Cunning Wish
1 Time Walk
1 Fastbond
1 Gush

//IlikeDirt (24)
1 Sol Ring
1 Mox Diamond
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Black Lotus
1 Mana Crypt
5 Plains
3 Island
2 Gemstone Mine
1 Undiscovered Paradise
1 City of Brass
2 Flooded Strand
1 Glimmervoid
1 Strip Mine

No SB, since it's casual I'll just wish for whatever's most convenient. I posted in case there's something I completely overlooked as the most recent decklist I could find was pretty outdated.. Does everyone else think this deck would be pretty badass (fun, not overly good) in a typical casual setting?

Blue Elemental Blast wouldn't be bad either- although it's not really needed because of the lack of NBLH ownage. Nevertheless, FCG is a tough matchup..

And if we wanted STD's, we'd play show and tell.

But to add something serious to this post- I tested the deck a little with a few minor changes of my own, and I love it. I'm not sure I experienced what you talked about by saying it plays out like Slaver, and I'm sure this goes deeper than a few alternate card choices I've made, but it's a really cool and definitely a playable deck.

Why are so many people crying that I brought it up? If it doesn't affect you, can't you let it end there? I know it affects me, so I thought I'd remind everyone else, in case it mattered to them.

Playing with lands sort of makes it a totally different format than what I had in mind- but interesting still. Good luck getting people to play.

Mishra's Factory? Or maybe Nether Shadow?

3) Crypt is something that should be in the maindeck, especially if you run the SB Swords of Fire and Ice.

4) As good as the Intuition/Roar "engine" is in Extended, it's way too assy for T1, especially a budget T1 deck. Don't read over the fact that a budget list can/should probably use 2 Ancient Tombs.

Shadow Rift is another card strictly better than Infiltrate, as it's +1.5 damage with your Tog.

Roar of the Wurm is actually even worse in the budget version. I'd definitely run Crypt, and might even consider Ancient Tombs in the budget version. ESG's are also an option but I can't see them being very effective. If you check out my thread called Togs 'n Dogs a few lines down, there's a section about "budgetizing" a similar deck.

Edit:
Concering 4 Stupefying Touch- I'd run 4 as well. In the New England metagame, Togs and Welders are all over the place.

In reference to your question, this is definitely, and has been ever since the Odyssey Block, and excellent budget deck for Type One. It was particularly great at the time because T2 players could play a competitive T1 deck for the price of a playset of duals and Null Rods.