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1  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: S.S. Tezzeret on: June 05, 2009, 09:20:50 am
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Also, please don't try to hijack my SPELL SNARE TEZZERET list with your godawful terrible slaver-tezz build. Thank you.

 This is so unnecessary by the way......duress is infinitely better than your god awful spell snare idea.
I may not have been playing for very long but common sense tells me that in just about in any situation you would much rather have duress/thouhgtseize.
Why would I want to hold a spell snare between turns 1, 2, and 3(or however long) thats dead unless they play a spell with converted mana cost of 2 (not to mention it makes your combo matchups worst) when I can cast a duress/thoughtseize for the same amount of mana, taking whatever card spellsnare could have maybe countered, or a card with converted mana cost of 1 or 3 (which spellsnare obviously can't do) or any other relevant card in that situation including important combo pieces (etc.) I also get to look at their entire hand which makes it alot easier for me to combo off because I know what and what not to counter and/or do......the hell I can just take their force of wills or whatever they have to stop me from winning (spell snare cant do that by the way) Im not saying ss is bad, but in tezzeret and this metagame, duress/thoughtseize is better....It's pure logic. Because it appeared to be good in situations when you playtested it doesn't mean u should run it. I'd rather have a card a card that can cripple my opponent and makes it easier for me to combo off than to have a potentially dead card that may or may not counter a spell with cmc of 2......way to situational compared to your other options.
When weighing the pros and cons, the pros of duress/thoughtseize clearly substantially outweighs the pros of spellsnare.

In no way do I use mind slaver in my build, their are different and specific logical reasons why each spell and color splash is in my deck, by no means is my deck awful, and by no means is dark confidant slow Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
2  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: S.S. Tezzeret on: June 05, 2009, 03:32:45 am
What do you guys think of Dark confidant in the main as a 2 of?

he seems absolutely incredible in the mirror, the only problem I see is that it usually puts you on a clock with time vault when you combo off, but I usually still win by tutoring for a top or killing them with tezz within a few turns. The advantage that Bob produces seems to be worth the risk, for a turn 1 or 2 Bob pretty much ensures victory in the mirror or TPS if you don't die to flipping force of wills (etc.) I could be overestimating this card in tezz but it just seems he always allows you to outdraw your opponent.

Thoughts?


Also. I just recently started playing vintage and am unsure of what cards to side out against the  mirror and/or fish based decks. I know I want to bring in a couple red elemental blast for the mirror. Threads, sower, and massacre for the the fish based decks. However I am very unsure of what to take out for them. Your help would be most appreciated.

here is my list:                                  sideboard:           

1 black lotus                                    1 hurkyl's recall 
1 mox emerald                                 1 rebuild
1 mox sapphire                                 2 red elemental blast 
1 mox jet                                         1 sower of temptation
1 mox ruby                                       1 threads of disloyalty
1 mana crypt                                    2 firespout or massacre
1 sol ring                                         2 relic of progenitus
1 lotus petal                                    2 extirpate
1 sensei's diving top                         2 yixlid jailer
1 time vault                                    1 rack and ruin
1 vaultaic key
2 dark confidant
1 inkwell leviathan
1 goblin welder
1 gorilla shaman
4 force of will
1 misdirection
3 mana drain
3 thirst for knowledge
1 mystical tutor
1 ancestral recall
1 brainstorm
1 timewalk
1 gifts ungiven
1 fact or fiction
1 ponder
1 tezzeret
1 tinker
1 hurkyl's recall
1 merchant scroll
4 duress
1 thoughtseize
1 yawgmoth's will
1 demonic tutor
1 vampiric tutor
(14) lands
3 undergroung sea
2 volcanic island
1 island
1 swamp
3 polluted delta
2 flooded strand
1 library of alexandria
1 tolarian academy

  
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