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1  Eternal Formats / Creative / Braids In Monoblack Beatdown on: September 20, 2004, 07:16:30 pm
LOL please, I got this idea in my dream a couple days before.

BIMB:

4 Braids, Cabal Minion
4 Hypnotic spector
4 Nantuko Shade

4 Chalice of the Void
4 Duress
4 Diabolic Edict

1 Necropotence
1 Mindtwist
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Demonic Consultation
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Visara the Dreadful
1 Necromancy

1 Stripmine
4 Wasteland
4 Dark Ritual
1 lotus Petal
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sol Ring
16 Swamp

Okay, let me explain my card choice:

Duress: basic disruption for this deck.

Diabolic Edict: basic creature removal.

Nantuko Shade: Best beatdown creature for this deck.

Hypnotic spector: Somewhat slow, but may give your foe some headache if it comes out early.

Necropotence, Mindtwist, Vampiric Tutor, Demonic Tutor, Demonic Consultation, Yawgmoth's Will:  They are all restricted for good reasons, right?

Visara the Dreadful:  I used to run two, but one is enough.  With tutor spells and necropotence, get this card from the deck is not hard.  It simply causes a lot trouble against other decks if it gets into the play.  It's a good attacker and blocker as well.

Necromancy:  Here is the other Visara, this card can steal a lot of goodie from opposing graveyard.  Steal one Goblin Welder is not bad.  If you steal a Morphling, that will be cool.  Sometimes it can steal a game against Animate Dragon as well.

Chalice of the Void + Braids:  Key cards in this deck!  Chalice of the Void for zero most of time!  It stop all the first turn madness against powered up decks.  It shuts down weenie decks for one or two.  At worst, sac it for Braids to function as a land is not bad.  This card simply slows down the game so Braids can do her work.  Braids, on the other hand, steals tempo, disrupt control player's mana base, can attack and block...

Dark Ritual, Mana Crypt, Sol Ring, Lotus Petal:  Fast mana

Stripmine + Wasteland:  Slow down the game, especially against Mishra's Workshop.

16 Swamp:  Too much I guess, but because of Braids, large amount of lands are needed.

Any suggestion?
2  Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / Balanced budget mono color format!!! on: April 20, 2004, 05:15:03 pm
gobvantage?
I dont have the list...  Is that good without blue or green for additional draw or combo?  Without drawing, it seems to be very slow.  Just imagine Parfait player lay a Humility on turn three and you are drawing only one goblin per turn...  Or fish player use stilfe against goblin recruiter...    

About Fish, it should + 3 Daze, + 2 Stifle and - 1 island, - 2 waterfront bouncer, - 2 Psionic blast.  Daze and Stifle are simply powerfy if you know how to use them.

Should this format be more strict?  Really no any other color should allow even you dont hard cast them at all???
3  Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / Balanced budget mono color format!!! on: April 19, 2004, 01:38:23 pm
My little experiment:
To build a series mono color decks based on type 1 card pool and they must be balanced and has a good chance(40~60%) to beat each other.  The goal of this  format is to play the decks without sideboard and hate that everyone will enjoy any deck they pick from this series.  Therefore this format will be good for several friends play together casually without slam the cards whenever Tendrils meets Rootmaze or Charbelcher meets Null Rod.  The mainly reason for making this format mono color simply for budget reason since dual lands are not that easy to get.  Also there are too much unbalance when a deck uses two colors.  Moreover, forcing to use mono color will let people to explore more in magic's card pool.  Enough talking, let's post some nice mono color decks here.

Mono White- Parfait!!

Creature control:
4 Swords to Plowshares
2 Humility
1 Wrath of God
1 Balance

Enchanment and Artifact removal:
3 Aura of silence
2 Abolish

Draw engine:
4 Land Tax
3 Scroll rack

Win condition:
2 Sacre Mesa

Life gain:
2 Ivory Tower
2 Zuran Orb

Others:
4 Orim's Chant
4 Argivian Find
1 Enlighten Tutor
1 Tormod's Crypt

Mana Source:
1 Mox Diamond
1 Chrome Mox
1 Sol Ring
1 Lotus petal
1 Strip mine
18 Plains

I wanted to add  Isochron Scepter in this deck, but it is too broken against creature decks, and too slow against fast combo decks. It's too unbalanced therefore I decided cut that out.



Mono Blue- Fish!!

Creature:
4 Manta Riders
4 Rootwater Thief
4 Lord of Alantis
4 Cloud of Faerie
2 Waterfront Bouncer

Counters and other disruption:
4 Force of Will
2 Misdirection
2 Echoing Truth
2 Psionic Blast

Draw engine:
4x Curiousity
4x Standstill

Mana Source:
4 Mishras Factory
4 Faerie Conclave
1 Stripmine
15 Island


Waterfront Bouncer, Psionic Blast and Echoing Truth are null rods and stifles in the tournament build, maybe I tone this deck down too much, any suggestions?


Mono black- Animate Dragon!

Reanimate spell:
4 Dance of the dead
4 Animate dead

Searching engine:
4 Spoils of the vault
1 Vampric Tutor
1 Demonic tutor
1 Demonic consultation
1 Entomb
4 Buried Alive

Disruption:
4 Duress
4 Cabal Therapy

Combo piece:
3 Ambassador Laquatus
3 Worldgorger Dragon

Mana Source:
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sol Ring
1 Lotus Petal
4 dark ritual
16 Swamp
3 Ancient Tomb

My friend once asked about Ambassador Laquatus and Worldgorger Dragon:  Are they black spells?  My answer is:  I only use them as tools.  Therefore it's possible for Survival the Fittest + Squee Nabob and others in this format too!



Mono Red- Goblin!

Creature:
4 Goblin Cadets
4 Goblin Lackey
4 Mogg Fanatic
3 Mogg Flunkies
4 Goblin Piledriver
4 Grim Lavamancer

Burns:
4 Chain Lightning
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Goblin Grenade
3 Fireblast

More speed:
4 Reckless Charge

Mana source:
4 Bloodstained Mire
4 Wooded Foothills
10 Moutain

Simple and fast, any questions?


I almost have all types of deck in this format:  White is control, Blue is aggro, Black is combo and Red is Beatdown.  Ideally Green should be prison to complete my cycle.  But I am just clueless about how to make a green prison deck...


Please keep in mind:

1.  Only do this in your home!  Playing these decks without a lot of tuning for the metagame in type 1 is suisidal.  And some of these decks simply could not win in current type 1 Crying or Very sad

2.  Don't add hosers like Chill or Red Elemental Blast in mono color decks or they become pointless against the wrong color.

3.  I am a little hesitated about allowing wishes in this format because then I will need a sideboard.  Something like Cunning Wish, Burning Wish, Living Wish and even Death Wish is too good to give up.  Maybe allow sideboard if using these wishes is a good idea then.


Anyway, post any mono color deck you like: white weenie, high tide, pox, ankh sligh, stompy and anything it's possible to beat the other in this format will be nice.  Well, you can do your own mono color cycle too!
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