I think this is a great base to work from. . . maybe "all legends"  and fetches/duals is a bit strong, but thanks for putting it together.

I think the idea here is to figure out if people would be interested in testing out the format under a different set of bannings/restrictions. To Chris' point, i think nixing Sphere over Workshop is a great idea.

The purpose of this exercise is to shake things up. To keep a high power level while increasing interactivity.

I think the discussion should focus more on what it would take to make this idea work rather than bashing Dave for coming with an interesting idea.

If sphere goes instead of workshop, other changes could be made as well e.g. narcomoeba restricted instead of bazaar.

This seems much more open-ended and accessible. It would at the very least force people to look at different strategies.

Would I travel for this? Hell yes.

That lotus is mine . . .

2010 Magic: The Gathering World Championships Public Events: Japan Vintage Championship
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Saitou, Yuu
2010 Worlds Public Events: Japan Vintage Championship, Winner
 
Main Deck
60 cards

4  Forbidden Orchard
1  Island
2  Misty Rainforest
4  Polluted Delta
1  Swamp
1  Tolarian Academy
2  Tropical Island
2  Underground Sea
17 lands


1  Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1  Eternal Witness
1  Tidespout Tyrant
3 creatures   1  Ancestral Recall
1  Black Lotus
1  Brainstorm
1  Demonic Tutor
4  Force of Will
1  Hurkyl's Recall
2  Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1  Mana Crypt
3  Mana Drain
1  Mana Vault
1  Merchant Scroll
1  Mox Emerald
1  Mox Jet
1  Mox Pearl
1  Mox Ruby
1  Mox Sapphire
4  Oath of Druids
1  Sensei's Divining Top
1  Sol Ring
3  Spell Pierce
1  Tezzeret the Seeker
3  Thoughtseize
1  Time Vault
1  Time Walk
1  Vampiric Tutor
1  Voltaic Key
1  Yawgmoth's Will
40 other spells

Sideboard
2  Engineered Explosives
1  Hurkyl's Recall
4  Leyline of the Void
4  Mindbreak Trap
2  Nature's Claim
1  Relic of Progenitus
1  Trinisphere
15 sideboard cards



Sejkora, Svatopluk
2010 Worlds Public Events: Japan Vintage Championship, Finalist
 
Main Deck
60 cards

1  Flooded Strand
1  Forest
2  Island
4  Misty Rainforest
2  Polluted Delta
1  Tolarian Academy
2  Tropical Island
3  Underground Sea
16 lands


3  Dark Confidant
1  Inkwell Leviathan
2  Trygon Predator
6 creatures   1  Ancestral Recall
1  Black Lotus
1  Brainstorm
1  Demonic Tutor
4  Force of Will
1  Hurkyl's Recall
2  Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1  Mana Crypt
3  Mana Drain
1  Merchant Scroll
1  Mox Emerald
1  Mox Jet
1  Mox Pearl
1  Mox Ruby
1  Mox Sapphire
1  Mystical Tutor
1  Rebuild
1  Regrowth
1  Sensei's Divining Top
1  Sol Ring
2  Spell Pierce
1  Tezzeret the Seeker
3  Thoughtseize
1  Time Vault
1  Time Walk
1  Tinker
1  Vampiric Tutor
1  Voltaic Key
1  Yawgmoth's Will
38 other spells

Sideboard
1  Arcane Laboratory
2  Darkblast
4  Leyline of the Void
1  Massacre
1  Mindbreak Trap
2  Nature's Claim
1  Pithing Needle
1  Rebuild
2  Yixlid Jailer
15 sideboard cards



Ootsuki, Masahiro
2010 Worlds Public Events: Japan Vintage Championship, Semifinalist
 
Main Deck
60 cards

1  Flooded Strand
1  Forest
1  Island
4  Misty Rainforest
1  Polluted Delta
1  Scalding Tarn
1  Tolarian Academy
2  Tropical Island
3  Underground Sea
1  Volcanic Island
16 lands


4  Dark Confidant
1  Inkwell Leviathan
3  Trygon Predator
8 creatures   1  Ancestral Recall
1  Black Lotus
1  Brainstorm
1  Demonic Tutor
4  Force of Will
3  Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1  Mana Crypt
2  Mana Drain
1  Merchant Scroll
1  Mox Emerald
1  Mox Jet
1  Mox Pearl
1  Mox Ruby
1  Mox Sapphire
1  Nature's Claim
1  Sensei's Divining Top
1  Sol Ring
4  Spell Pierce
3  Thoughtseize
1  Time Vault
1  Time Walk
1  Tinker
1  Vampiric Tutor
1  Voltaic Key
1  Yawgmoth's Will
36 other spells

Sideboard
4  Leyline of the Void
3  Nature's Claim
1  Pithing Needle
2  Pyroblast
1  Red Elemental Blast
2  Sower of Temptation
2  Yixlid Jailer
15 sideboard cards



Hiyama, Kenji
2010 Worlds Public Events: Japan Vintage Championship, Semifinalist
 
Main Deck
60 cards

1  Ancient Tomb
4  Mishra's Factory
4  Mishra's Workshop
1  Strip Mine
1  Tolarian Academy
4  Wasteland
15 lands


4  Lodestone Golem
4  Metalworker
2  Precursor Golem
4  Steel Hellkite
14 creatures   1  Black Lotus
3  Chalice of the Void
1  Crucible of Worlds
4  Grim Monolith
1  Mana Crypt
1  Mana Vault
1  Mox Emerald
1  Mox Jet
1  Mox Pearl
1  Mox Ruby
1  Mox Sapphire
2  Sculpting Steel
1  Sol Ring
4  Tangle Wire
4  Thorn of Amethyst
1  Time Vault
1  Trinisphere
2  Voltaic Key
31 other spells

Sideboard
3  Duplicant
4  Leyline of Sanctity
2  Leyline of the Void
2  Pithing Needle
2  Precursor Golem
2  Ravenous Trap
15 sideboard cards



Tanaka, Hisaya
2010 Worlds Public Events: Japan Vintage Championship, Quarterfinalist
 
Main Deck
60 cards

4  Forbidden Orchard
1  Library of Alexandria
4  Misty Rainforest
1  Strip Mine
3  Tropical Island
3  Underground Sea
2  Wasteland
18 lands


1  Eternal Witness
1  Progenitus
2 creatures   1  Ancestral Recall
1  Black Lotus
1  Brainstorm
1  Crucible of Worlds
1  Demonic Tutor
1  Fastbond
4  Force of Will
1  Gaea's Blessing
3  Gush
1  Hurkyl's Recall
2  Mana Drain
1  Merchant Scroll
1  Mox Emerald
1  Mox Jet
1  Mox Sapphire
1  Nature's Claim
4  Oath of Druids
1  Ponder
1  Sensei's Divining Top
4  Spell Pierce
4  Thoughtseize
1  Time Walk
1  Vampiric Tutor
1  Yawgmoth's Will
1  Zuran Orb
40 other spells

Sideboard
1  Academy Ruins
2  Dark Confidant
1  Engineered Explosives
1  Hurkyl's Recall
1  Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1  Nature's Claim
1  Nihil Spellbomb
1  Pithing Needle
1  Sower of Temptation
1  Tezzeret the Seeker
1  Time Vault
1  Tormod's Crypt
1  Voltaic Key
1  Wasteland
15 sideboard cards



Mori, Tastunori
2010 Worlds Public Events: Japan Vintage Championship, Quarterfinalist
 
Main Deck
60 cards

1  Flooded Strand
3  Island
4  Polluted Delta
1  Scalding Tarn
1  Swamp
1  Tolarian Academy
3  Underground Sea
3  Volcanic Island
17 lands


4  Dark Confidant
1  Sphinx of the Steel Wind
3  Trinket Mage
8 creatures   1  Ancestral Recall
1  Black Lotus
1  Brainstorm
1  Demonic Tutor
4  Force of Will
1  Hurkyl's Recall
3  Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1  Mana Crypt
3  Mana Drain
1  Mox Emerald
1  Mox Jet
1  Mox Pearl
1  Mox Ruby
1  Mox Sapphire
1  Mystical Tutor
1  Pithing Needle
1  Rack and Ruin
1  Sensei's Divining Top
1  Sol Ring
3  Spell Pierce
1  Time Vault
1  Time Walk
1  Tinker
1  Vampiric Tutor
1  Voltaic Key
1  Yawgmoth's Will
35 other spells

Sideboard
1  Hurkyl's Recall
4  Leyline of the Void
4  Lightning Bolt
2  Mindbreak Trap
1  Perish
1  Pyroblast
2  Red Elemental Blast
15 sideboard cards



Kumazawa, Katsuhiko
2010 Worlds Public Events: Japan Vintage Championship, Quarterfinalist
 
Main Deck
60 cards

4  Ancient Tomb
2  City of Traitors
4  Mishra's Factory
4  Mishra's Workshop
1  Strip Mine
1  Tolarian Academy
4  Wasteland
20 lands


4  Lodestone Golem
4  Metalworker
3  Precursor Golem
3  Steel Hellkite
14 creatures   1  Black Lotus
3  Chalice of the Void
1  Crucible of Worlds
1  Mana Vault
1  Mox Emerald
1  Mox Jet
1  Mox Pearl
1  Mox Ruby
1  Mox Sapphire
2  Sculpting Steel
1  Sol Ring
4  Sphere of Resistance
3  Tangle Wire
4  Thorn of Amethyst
1  Trinisphere
26 other spells

Sideboard
1  Crucible of Worlds
2  Duplicant
3  Jester's Cap
2  Ratchet Bomb
1  Razormane Masticore
2  Relic of Progenitus
1  Sword of Fire and Ice
2  Tormod's Crypt
1  Wurmcoil Engine
15 sideboard cards



Fujikawa, Akinori
2010 Worlds Public Events: Japan Vintage Championship, Quarterfinalist
 
Main Deck
60 cards

2  Flooded Strand
1  Island
2  Polluted Delta
1  Seat of the Synod
1  Tolarian Academy
2  Tropical Island
4  Underground Sea
3  Volcanic Island
16 lands


3  Goblin Welder
1  Inkwell Leviathan
4 creatures   1  Ancestral Recall
1  Black Lotus
1  Brainstorm
1  Demonic Tutor
1  Echoing Truth
4  Force of Will
1  Hurkyl's Recall
2  Jace, the Mind Sculptor
4  Mana Drain
1  Mana Vault
1  Misdirection
1  Mox Emerald
1  Mox Jet
1  Mox Pearl
1  Mox Ruby
1  Mox Sapphire
1  Pyroblast
1  Rack and Ruin
1  Red Elemental Blast
2  Sensei's Divining Top
1  Sol Ring
3  Tezzeret the Seeker
1  Thirst for Knowledge
1  Time Vault
1  Time Walk
1  Tinker
1  Transmute Artifact
1  Vampiric Tutor
1  Voltaic Key
1  Yawgmoth's Will
40 other spells

Sideboard
1  Darkblast
2  Firespout
1  Hurkyl's Recall
1  Mindbreak Trap
2  Pithing Needle
1  Pyroblast
1  Red Elemental Blast
1  Relic of Progenitus
3  Thoughtseize
2  Tormod's Crypt
15 sideboard cards

I picked up Steve's book.  It's an excellent primer and really well thought out.  I wasn't playing the format during the first or second gush eras, so it was an invaluable tool for me.  Definitely worth the money.

Karakas in the sideboard as a living wish target against Iona and Emrakul seems good.

Hilarious! Great job.

Any news/lists from this event?

Love the workshop aggro list. 

Hey guys.  What is the "planeswalker" deck that keeps t4ing?

Has anyone tried Jace TMS out in "the Deck?" seems good, but I don't know what I'd take out.

Nick Detwiler
Jake Gans
Chris Pikula

Good job Matt.  Were you running traditional tezzeret? Or something with trygons?

Congratulations!

Has anyone tried out imperial seal in oath?  If so, how was it?

SO, after being underwhelmed by drains, would you cut them altogether for something else?  Did you ever feel like you needed a drain to resolve a Jace or Tezzeret.

Great job Rico! Sorry to see you get derailed by that series of bad mulligans, but that's how it goes sometimes. 

Two questions:

Did you miss the third Mana Drain at all?

(I ask all Oath players this) Why did you go with Sphinx as your robot of choice?

What about sower of temptation?  Have you tried Fire/Ice?

Soly, what wrath effects are you running?

Show and Tell seems good against True Believer.

Could anyone provide some insight into oath's matchup against the various storm decks?

I'd be interested to hear about general gameplans for each game and which things have to be countered.  Thanks guys!

Same list?

Congratulations Josh! It's unfortunate that the dredge train had to ruin your top 8 run.  Can you tell me a little more about your sideboard?  How were imperial archangel and deed?  when did you bring them in?

Well, the slot I'm playing with is the slot that formerly had Twister in it.  I just never seem to cast it (and I draw it often).  I'm just not sure what else would be better.  I considered going up to 4 drains in the maindeck, but haven't tested it yet.

Hey guys.  What do you think about propaganda as a bullet in the main or in the side to fend off troublesome creatures? 

A new guy in our group runs ichorid and I hate having no chance game 1.

Matt, congrats on your most recent 2nd place at blue bell.  Would you mind sharing some insight into your use of the red blasts in the side?  What do you bring them in for?  When do you fetch the volcanic (I have a fear of wasteland)?

Hey guys.  Congratulations to Matt and Ben for their continuing success with the deck.  A few things:

1) Matt, how was Timetwister for you since you added an extra monster and cut krosan reclamation?  I'm assuming you're not trying the vault key out of the yard strategy from your previous list.

2) Also for Matt or anyone else not running Show and Tell: is there a particular reason why you don't run this?  For me, it's been truly amazing.

3) For everyone: how do you feel about Children of Korlis in the sideboard?  I've used them so far to pretty good results against storm decks and I even brought them in against dredge as a free sac outlet to get rid of bridge from below.

Thanks to everyone who's contributed and kept this thread alive!  I'm really glad that I picked up Oath as my first vintage deck.  I'm loving it!

Hey guys.  I tested tonight with two show and tell main with the 4 monster package (robot, elephant, iona, emrakul) and loved it.  The deck felt really threat dense and I felt like my opponents never had enough disruption to prevent me from getting big guys into play.

Also, I've been really underwhelmed with sensei's divining top in my testing lately.  This is the slot I've been most willing to cut in the maindeck (working with Ben's most recent list).  How have everyone else's experiences with top been?

Did you take out the elephant altogether?  Are you running Dragon Breath? Tinker-bot?