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1  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / [Deck] New Belcher on: February 13, 2005, 10:26:45 am
After reading the "New Belcher" post and about team CAB´s speedbelcher I became curious about how the deck would be working in real tournament play and not only in games against my goldfish (where it did an amazing job regarding the 1st turn kill average).
So I decided to take it to a local tournament with the following list:

Team Tinker - The Perfect Belcher

1 Ancetral
1 Mystical
1 DT
1 Vampiric
1 Consultation
1 Spoils
1 Tinker

1 Twister
1 Wheel
1 Windfall
1 Jar

1 Will
1 Bargain
1 Necro
 
3 Tendrils
4 Belcher

4 Land Grant
4 ESG
3 Tinder Wall
1 Channel
4 Dark Ritual
4 Cabal Ritual

1 Lotus
4 Moxen  (I don´t have the Pearl)
1 Crypt
1 Vault
1 Petal
1 LED
1 Grim
1 Chrome mox
1 Sol Ring

3 Chromatic Sphere
3 Pentad Prism (Mon is right, they are amazing!!)

1 Bayou


We played 5 rounds of swiss (24 players attending) and I faced the following decks:

Round 1: random.dec
Round 2: 4cc
Round 3: Rector Tendrils
Round 4: Rector Tendrils
Round 5: Tog

I went 4-1 => 2nd place with only one loss in the finals against tog. (I will turn to that again later on)

After four rounds my winning-average looked like this:

4(!) 1st turn kills (2 against 4cc, 1 against RectorTendrils, 1 against random.dec)
2    2nd turn kills
1    3rd turn kill
1    4th turn kill

That makes a first turn kill average of 50%  :lol: (quite nice).

The 5th round against Tog:

I kept a hand with Mox G, Land Grant, Cabal Ritual, C-Sphere, Belcher, ESG and Pentad Prism.
He starts with Tropical Island-go and plays Ancestral in my upkeep. I draw (not sure what) and play Land Grant -no counter. Bayou, Ritual, ESG for Belcher-no counter....go
He strips my Bayou and plays a Pearl- go.
I draw demonic consultation and pass. He plays land Pernicious Deed and sacs for zero - ouch! Response I tap the Mox, sac sphere for black and play the consultation for lotus which will win me the game next turn. Unfortunately, the first card I have to remove is.....sure, Black Lotus  Crying or Very sad and he goes for the win.

2nd game I can´t finish him early enough so that he is able to play deed again, gain control of the game and win...

Though the last consultation was really, really annoying, playing the deck was a real blast and much fun. Therefore, thanks to CAB for posting the list!

The only problem I had with it was sideboarding sth out. Because every single card seems to be needed as it is either a bomb, a mana source or a kill card....so I often randomly sided out the spoils, one tendrils/ belcher to put in duress, xantid swarm or deconstruct/ naturalize- which were at the same time the only cards that proved to be necessary.....

Thus, I would appreciate any recommendations towards other sideboard-techs that I did not think of. Of course any comments on the maindeck are also welcome.
2  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / [Article] Meandeck's Angels: A Primer on Meandeck Oath on: November 08, 2004, 12:25:52 pm
Don´t get me wrong; I didn´t want to compare these. I just wanted to give a point to start....
so what about Stax??
3  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / [Article] Meandeck's Angels: A Primer on Meandeck Oath on: November 08, 2004, 12:07:48 pm
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...which Welder-decks....


First of all Stax but to a lesser extent also Slaver.
4  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / [Article] Meandeck's Angels: A Primer on Meandeck Oath on: November 07, 2004, 07:19:59 am
Hi! I have a question regarding the sideboard-tech against Welder-decks. Since there apparently are eight cards in the board which could come in against these (3x Flux, 3x G-Seal, 2x C-Magic) I was just wondering what to take out for them. Besides the two misdirections I don´t have the slightest idea.
As I didn´t read the whole thread I´m sorry if this question already occured.
thx
5  Eternal Formats / Global Vintage Tournament Reports and Results / [Tournament Report] R/g Beatz takes 1st place in Findlay, OH on: September 10, 2004, 02:22:59 pm
@Dromar: Alright, thanks for clearing this! But it´s still a little confusing, as I once tried to misdirect my opponent´s necromancy to his laquatus instead of the gorger. I was told this wouldn´t work because the necromancy´s target wasn´t chosen until it comes into play..... So what about this??  Question  Question  Question
6  Eternal Formats / Global Vintage Tournament Reports and Results / [Tournament Report] R/g Beatz takes 1st place in Findlay, OH on: September 10, 2004, 06:54:31 am
@Tobi: Is it possible to misdirect an enchantment (like rancor, as you said)?? Always thought this would only work with instants and sorcerys, as enchantments don`t have any targets while they are played but at the point they come into play> means they already did resolve. Or am I wrong about that?? [/quote]
7  Eternal Formats / Creative / Germbus without full power? on: May 16, 2004, 10:14:21 am
@bulls: shame on me, i forgot to list up the library  Embarassed I´m not sure about running a city of brass and a mana crypt. don´t you think this will hit my life total too hard?? othewise.. with a third angel??? I´ll think about that.... Very Happy
@zherbus: what should i cut for the basic plains?? suppose the third angel should replace one of the decrees?? or shall i play both two decrees and three angels??

thanx for replying!
8  Eternal Formats / Creative / Germbus without full power? on: May 16, 2004, 08:11:34 am
hello there! I´d like to play the germbus-keeper on my next tournament, but due to a lack of money Very Happy �´m missing three moxen( emerald,ruby and pearl ) and the walk.... so I asking for some advices if the deck will work without the two needed moxen and the walk or if there aren´t any replacements (not for the same effect, but cards that would kind of absorb the disadvantages of not having these cards) unfortunatly I´m having no real possibilities for testing my current deck as there are not so many type 1 players in my town. so I need a little help from you guys in here.... Wink

so this is my current deck:

md:

1x ancetral recall
4x brainstorm
1x fact or fiction
2x skeletal scrying
4x mana drain
4x force of will
1x mystical tutor
1x demonic tutor
1x mind twist
1x yawgmoth´s will
2x cunning wish
2x fire/ice
2x swords to plowshares
1x balance
2x gorilla shaman
2x exalted angel
2x decree of justice
2x isochron scepter(?)
1x sol ring
1x black lotus
1x mox jet
1x mox sapphire
1x lotus petal(?)
1x library of alexandria
1x strip mine
4x wasteland
4x flooded strand
1x polluted delta
4x tundra
3x underground sea
3x volcanic island

sb:

4x duress
2x null rod
1x rack and ruin
1x disenchant
2x swords to plowshares
1x echoing decay
1x stifle
1x coffin purge
1x vampiric tutor
1x c.o.p.: red

that´s it. I set a question mark behind those cards I replaced for those missing, but as I said I´m not sure about this working at a tourney (heavy control meta) or if I should play something completely different like landstill or so??
I´d be glad to receive a few constructive replys.
thanx
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