Obviously that hugo_87 is not me:



I really was doubting whether the M. Solymossy I posted was the real one, now my doubt is cleared. I can't believe such hypocresy. Just an advice: Learn to assume your faults when there isn't another logical way to proceed. And don't worry, I won't post here again, even if I catch you again with similar printscreens.
Have a nice day sir

I can guarentee you also that this time I am 100% sure it was the real ELD, because at the beginning of the match we spoke about a big tournament here in Spain a year ago where he got second place.
Everyone can get upset at some point

This one is amazing:



What he tries to "say" in spanish is basically "son of a bitch" and "Spain is shit". No comment...
I really thought this ELD was nicer... Unfortunately he was caught this time. And also it is not the first time I suffer his rage. Another "duplicant" maybe? Anyway, the nickname ELD is someone to avoid on MWS.

Double posted again -.-'

I think you have a wrong perspective when facing stax with control decks. What you say is an effective play if we were playing storm combo, but playing control decks using only massive bounce spells helps, but does not win. Eot hurkyl's, ok. In your turn you will untap, draw and pass the turn 80% of the time, and the other 20% you will combo out. And if you pass the turn, they will just replay their entire hand again. Maybe you will counter one or two threats, ok, but the rest?
Against stax, the best plan is aggro mode. Why do decks like goblins or RG have a very favorable matchup against workshops? Because of their quick clock. A quick and cheap clock is the best solution against any kind of lock. If you drop a 4/5 goyf onto the table, they simply have to find an answer to a 5 turn clock, or they are out, even with their crucible/strip mine lock, or with their 4 spheres, or whatever they dropped onto the table. Even a smokestack can be useless if it does not hit the table soon. And the difference between RG and our deck is that we run counters to avoid their few responses to our beaters.


I think any tezzeret build is far away from MD gifts deck in almost every aspect. MD gifts run almost every card as a 4x of, and that way its playlines were easy to follow and almost the same. It resolved eot a hurkyl's, then a gifts and just won. We run almost every card as a singleton (except for countermagic) and that way we have tons of different ways to develop our play. And we not run any single card that just "wins" the game, we need at least a combination of two, which is much harder to assemble. Don not forget, MD gifts was a sort of storm combo deck. We do not run tendrils of agony to win the game, so we can't focus the matchup the same way.

Apart from all this, I can't see why energy flux isn't an autowin. It clears their board completely. And we lose 1 or maybe 2 moxen, ok, what a problem... I always win the match it hits the table, seriously. Its only problem is the cmc 3 it has, that makes it sometimes hard to resolve through several spheres, but being blue and running at least 3 basics I think there isn't a better solution without running red, anyway never more than 2 copies, for sure. Trygon predator was simply crap, and engineered explosives is a good sideboard card in general, but I wanted to end the game better than just hit their spheres

Obviously when facing stax you should side out the vault combo...Indeed seems logical if you're running tarmogoyf. I tested trygon predator in the flux slots and it was simply too sloooow, and half the times died against a triskelion. And if the opponent resolves a welder, its completely useless. Energy flux is autowin as long as it resolves, and it is the best solution against stax if you're not running red, of course.
It simply can't hurt you as bad as them if you're running just 8 (mana) artifacts post board, and they are running a deck full of them...

Double posted accidentally, sorry.

I am currently playing this list, and I am very happy with it. Sylvan library is really amazing, and snares even more in the current metagame:



    3  Flooded Strand
    1  Library of Alexandria
    1  Tolarian Academy
    3  Underground Sea
    4  Island
    2  Polluted Delta
    2  Tropical Island


    1  Inkwell Leviathan


    1  Tinker
    1  Merchant Scroll
    1  Mystical Tutor
    1  Demonic Tutor
    1  Vampiric Tutor
    1  Gifts Ungiven
    1  Brainstorm
    1  Yawgmoth's Will
    2  Misdirection
    1  Mox Ruby
    1  Mox Pearl
    1  Mox Jet
    1  Mox Emerald
    1  Mox Sapphire
    1  Fact or Fiction
    1  Black Lotus
    1  Mana Crypt
    1  Sol Ring
    1  Ancestral Recall
    1  Time Walk
    4  Mana Drain
    4  Force of Will
    1  Time Vault
    1  Voltaic Key
    1  Tezzeret the Seeker
    1  Rebuild
    1  Repeal
    1  Regrowth
    3  Spell Snare
    1  Skeletal Scrying
    1  Thirst for Knowledge
    1  Sylvan Library
    1  Sensei's Divining Top
    1  Ponder


SB: 2  Relic of Progenitus
SB: 3  Yixlid Jailer
SB: 1  Tormod's Crypt
SB: 3  Thoughtseize
SB: 1  Hurkyl's Recall
SB: 3  Tarmogoyf
SB: 2  Energy Flux


We really don't need a "draw engine" properly said, running one of each restricted bomb plus some tech like SdT or sylvan library provides also a powerful draw engine, and the best of all is that it isn't conditional, like intuition+AK or thoughtcast.
I think selective tools like top or sylvan library are key in the one-brainstorm/one-thirst-era, because now it's very hard to filter useless cards. By this I mean especially mana sources in the mid/llate game, cards that we tend to topdeck and hold in hand very frequently since TFK is out.

But the fact is, that this wasn't the first time I met a "M. Solymossy" that complained and insulted after losing a match. If this really isn't you at all, then you have some active "duplicants" on mws, and they aren't creating a good image of yourself...

First of all welcome to everyone here. I used to read this forum almost two or three times every week some moths ago and was tempted to post several times, but lately I've been a bit disconnected. But now since im on holiday I have more time  .
I never read this topic before, and I found it just casually reading smmenen's 5c stax topic. But I thought I had something to post here,  just to reinforce some theory posted a few pages ago:





I don't know this M. Solymossy in person, but I knew he used to post here and I found interesting to save this printscreen. I can't judge whether he is a good or bad player, or whether he is a good or bad person, or whatever. But he always whines and complains when he loses, as proved in several posts here, and that is something I can't stand in magic, IRL or via MWS. I can understand that losing is sometimes disgusting, and all of us need sometimes to talk about "that topdecked will in the last turn possible" or "those 6 flips lost to that damn mana crypt", but one person that always tries to find excuses (at least on MWS) for his lost matches has still a long way to do to become a complete good magic player. Learning to lose and if possible finding out the reasons beyond "luck" and similar things  is always part of a serious and mature game.
Nothing more to add here, and hope this post provides more help than anything else. Note that I ignored those "prick" references because they were just "annoying", like me.