Yay, now an uncounterable crypt...

Bojuka Bog

Bojuka Bog enters the battlefield tapped.
: Add to your mana pool.
When Bojuka Bog enters the battlefield, remove all cards in target player's graveyard from the game.

Would Firestorm:
R, instant
As an additional cost to cast Firestorm, discard X cards.
Firestorm deals X damage to each of X target creatures and/or players.

be playable in this build against Fish, Oath, Jailer, as a Bloodghast sac outlet/haste enabler, or for something else?  With the 2 players and a creature target (Orchard token, Jailer, Fish creatures), you could do up to 3 damage while binning graveyard pieces.  I know it was mentioned in the old thread but really didn't go anywhere then...

For anyone following the progression of Dredge, a new thread has been started:

http://www.themanadrain.com/index.php?topic=39323.0

Orim's Chant has NEVER been able to counter spells (nor Silence).  This is NOT a M2010 rules change.  The only change was that the card uses "cast" instead of "play" and this is purely to be less confusing since we also use play to describe laying lands. 

To understand why Orim's Chant/Silence cannot counter spells, you have to understand the stack (like a pile of pancakes). 

1. Your opponent casts a spell X.
2. You cast Chant/Silence.
3. You/Your opponent passes priority/does not play another instant.  Now we resolve the stack from most recent to least recent. (Eat the topmost pancake)
4. Chant/Silence resolve.  From this point onward your opponent cannot cast spells for the turn.
5. Spell X resolves since it had already been cast and put on the stack before Chant/Silence resolved.

That is not to say that Chant/Silence are not good cards, but even if you play them during their upkeep before they would have played any spells, they still get to draw a card and play a land for the turn, unlike Timewalk.

The reason Goyf and Baneslayer are played is that they are good BY THEMSELVES and do not need to be paired with other cards to be good/do anything at all. 

Yay, more hate... is this good enough to see play in vintage against us?

Ravenous Trap
   2bb
Instant - Trap    Uncommon
If an opponent had three or more cards put into his or her graveyard from anywhere this turn, you may pay 0 rather than pay Ravenous Trap's mana cost.
Exile all cards from target player's graveyard.

Hi, I'm new to Ichorid and was wondering if this spoiled Zendikar card would at all be useful.  




If you activated Bazaar turn 1 and 2 and then played a land you'd have them out at the same rate as Nacromoeba, plus you could discard them to bazaar turn 1, whereas Nacromoeba is then a dead card.  Also, you can exile Bloodghast to Unmask and Ichorid, though you're pretty much committed to not using FOW.  You could obviously reuse them many times with multiple lands, unlike Nac, though if you empty your hand and don't have lands nac is better in the library.  He also can't fly or block tho I don't know how relevant that is.  

Would any of you play him over nacromoeba?