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Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / Wildfire Revisited - advice?
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on: June 20, 2007, 02:33:09 am
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I don't even remember the original Urza's Block Wildfire deck list, but I've always liked it. And with Voltaic Key being unrestricted, I thought I'd make a deck of it again and make use of Type I rules.
2 Creatures ----- 2 Darksteel Colossus (originally phyrexian colossus)
15 Control ----- 4 Wildfire 4 Fire / Ice (originally Arc Lightning) 3 Mana Drain (originally Mana Sink) 2 Urza's Rage 2 Confiscate
11 Misc. ----- 1 Phyrexian Processor 1 Tinker 3 Temporal Aperture 2 Copy Artifact 4 Thoughtcast
28 Mana ----- 1 Mana Crypt 1 Mox Diamond 1 Chrome Mox 1 Sol Ring 1 Mana Vault 1 Grim Monolith 4 Gilded Lotus 1 Tolarian Academy 4 Volcanic Island 4 Seat of the Synod 4 Great Furnace 4 Darksteel Citadel 1 Strip Mine
-Tinker + Colossus is an obvious win condition. Can also get lucky with a Aperture to get him out. Phyrexian Processor was in the original build. Sometimes it's just better against some decks. If all that fails, go for the burn and finish with a Urza's Rage.
-It's only 56 cards so far. I don't have access to Power 9. And I only own 3 Mana Drains. -Too much mana? -Anything else you think I should add?
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Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / Re: CE a good option for a casual player?
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on: July 29, 2006, 06:22:55 pm
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I see your point, but CE cards definitely have their own value to them, and I don't remember ever seeing their value go down. They almost definitely won't see comparable increases in price to the real versions, but at worst I'll be able to make my money back + extra, if I decide to sell.
No?
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Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / CE a good option for a casual player?
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on: July 29, 2006, 04:57:27 am
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I've never been to official tourney and I don't intend to. I've recently sold a bunch of stuff in a MMORPG and been wondering if I should get some of the P9 I always wanted.
Does anyone here use Collector's Edition cards?
It basically comes down to me either buying the entire Power9 Collector's Edition or use that money (and more) to get an Unlimited Black Lotus. With prices the way they are, I don't know if I want to spend that kind of cash. (And knowing me, once I got one of them, I'd HAVE to get the other 8.)
Good choice?
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Vintage Community Discussion / Rules Q&A / Re: CE proxies?
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on: December 31, 2005, 05:22:27 am
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I guess that brings another question.
Practically, with opaque sleeves, for all purposes to function while playing a game, there's no reason they can't be able to be used legally if they decided to wave their magic rules wand.
Unless, did they specifically state that the CE cards would never become legal when they released them?
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Vintage Community Discussion / Rules Q&A / CE proxies?
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on: December 31, 2005, 01:20:42 am
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Thinking about picking up some Collector's Edition power 9 cards.
Do they count towards your proxy count when you enter a tourny? (Not that I ever have been to one, or plan to. just good to know).
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Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / Re: [DECK] R/U Cheating.dec
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on: December 29, 2005, 08:11:47 pm
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Isn't Krark's Thumb legendary?
..Just wondering. Because that would stop you, unless you love having just one in play.
yep. one in play does the job. Don't know if anyone else has seem this Guildpact card: Stitch in Time Flip a coin. If you win the flip take an extra turn after this one. Tempted to put it in, but every time I think about it I want to blow a pay check and buy a Time Walk instead. And the deck is called "R/U Cheating.dec" as in "Are You Cheating.dec" *snort* Anyway, isn't it every casual player's secret dream to build a semi-playable coin flip and poison deck? Fiery Gambit finally got one of them to work... Now if I could just get the poison one to not suck. <--- *wishes they made the Golgari mechanic "Poison" (keyword). Edit: Updated Deck List Creatures 4 Shield Sphere 3 Cloud of Faeries 1 Erayo, Soratami Ascendent 1 Palinchron 1 Platinum Angel 1 Darksteel Colossus Drawing/Tutor 1 Burning Wish 3 Fiery Gambit 1 Frantic Search 1 Tinker 1 Future Sight 1 Mind's Desire 1 Time Spiral Control 4 Fire/Ice 1 Snap 2 Treachery Other 4 Krark's Thumb 4 Mana Flare 1 Mana Crypt 1 Lotus Petal 1 Mox Diamond 1 Chrome Mox 1 Sol Ring 1 Candelabra of Tawnos 1 Copy Artifact 19 Land 1 Tolarian Academy 4 Seat of the Synod 4 Great Furnace 1 Darksteel Citadel 4 Volcanic Island 5 Island Sideboard: 1 Recoup 1 Pyroclasm 1 Fiery Gambit 1 Wheel of Fortune 1 Rack and Ruin 1 Time Warp 1 Apocalypse 1 Bribery 1 Slice and Dice 1 Upheaval 1 Blatant Thievery 1 Obliterate 1 Time Stretch 1 Kaervek's Torch 1 Earthquake First deck I turned all foil, always wanted to do that.
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Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / Re: Fervent Charge Deck
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on: December 14, 2005, 11:57:26 pm
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I made a Fervent Charge Deck before, but it was nothing like yours.
I started with 2 cards: Fervent Charge + Godo, Bandit Warlord.
Add in a Lightning Greaves, and other cards that add additional combat phases, and creatures with vigilance (not restricted to samurai to have fun).
Was still too slow. Lost more than I won, but it was fun.
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Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / [DECK] R/U Cheating.dec
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on: December 14, 2005, 11:54:58 pm
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That's what me and my friends call it anyway "Cheating.dec" could also be "R/U Free Spell"
Creatures 4 Shield Sphere 3 Cloud of Faeries 1 Erayo, Soratami Ascendent 1 Palinchron 1 Darksteel Colossus
Drawing/Tutor 1 Burning Wish 3 Fiery Gambit 1 Frantic Search 1 Tinker 1 Future Sight 1 Mind's Desire 1 Time Spiral
Control 3 Fire/Ice 1 Snap 2 Force of Will 1 Treachery 2 Blatant Thievery
Other 4 Krark's Thumb 4 Mana Flare 1 Mana Crypt 1 Lotus Petal 1 Mox Diamond 1 Chrome Mox 1 Sol Ring 1 Candelabra of Tawnos 1 Copy Artifact
Non Basic Land 1 Tolarian Academy 4 Seat of the Synod 4 Great Furnace 1 Darksteel Citadel 4 Volcanic Island 1 Oboro, Palace in the Clouds
Sideboard: 1 Blatant Thievery 1 Obliterate 1 Pyroclasm 1 Kaervek's Torch 1 Wheel of Fortune 1 Fiery Gambit
Created it when I realized Fiery Gambit was bascially the most insane free spell ever printed (when it works). The thumbs are beautiful with the Mana Crypt.
I know I could take out the Darksteel Colossus, Fire/Ice and a few others to pack in 4 Dark Ritual, Necropotence, Yawgmoth's Bargain, Yawgmoth's Will, Tendrils of Agony, but it got very boring for me to play so I decided to keep it R/U.
Blatant Thievery is in there just because I play a lot of FFA (when I play), and it "cheats" in FFA.
Erayo is just stupid.
I'm still waiting for the Izzet guild to see if there's anything good I can add. I'll probably drop some shield spheres.
Any suggestions to fill out my sideboard? Usually don't need to burning wish for anything else, other than Time Spiral.
Other Suggestions?
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Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / WGB Necro Deck
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on: November 07, 2005, 01:00:14 am
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13 creatures --------------- 3 llanowar dead 3 academy rector 2 loxodon hierarch 1 elvish abberation 3 exalted angel 1 kiyomaro, first to stand 12 control --------------- 2 death grasp 2 vindicate 1 spinning darkness 1 contagion 1 balance 3 gerrard's verdict 1 unmask 1 mind twist 10 other --------------- 1 necropotence 1 yawgmoth's bargain 2 mirari's wake 1 land tax 1 ivory tower 1 spellbook 1 zuran orb 1 overgrown estate 25 mana --------------- 4 dark ritual 1 sol ring 1 library of alexandria 1 diamond valley 1 starlit sanctum 4 scrubland 4 bayou 4 savannah 2 swamp 2 plains 1 forest -Casual Deck -The people I play with have just about everything except Power 9. -Wanted to stuff as many gold cards as I could in it. (Yes, I know there are better critters than Llanowar Dead.) Very casual deck. Used to run Cadaverous Bloom/Drain Life, I could win one turn earlier, but that got boring fast. So I switched to the Wake and went from there. This version gives me multiple win conditions, and it's just a lot of fun to play. The new sets got me playing this deck again. I used to run Multani, but Kiyomaro is just perfect for the deck. And now Loxodon Hierarchs instead of Teroh's Faithful, which are just better in every single way. Discard their hand and clear a path for a ground assault with Elves and Clerics, beat them up with a couple exalted angels, use kiyomaro to take them down single handedly, or just burn them with a Death Grasp 4 the win. Like I said, just a lot of fun to play with lots of win conditions. Waiting on the WB guild to come out in Ravnica, could be some more goodies. Enjoy. 
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Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / Casual UBR Reanimator deck - Help cutting it down to 60
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on: May 27, 2004, 02:33:25 am
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I think so. 3 was too many, and 1 is to little. Just in case there's one already in my hand if i try to Buried Alive. He's that important.
More Changes (Again):
-1 Swamp -1 Animate Dead -1 Crater Hellion
+2 Unmask +1 Avatar of Woe
More stuff I've noticed:
- Demonic Tutor is almost always cast for Frantic Search. Having to cast Demonic Tutor usually means I had a slow hand and I'm going into my 3rd turn. Frantic Search makes beautiful 3rd turns.
- Unmask is just too good not to have more.
- Swapped Hellion for Avatar to up to black card count for more cards to pitch to Unmask. Now 31 out of 60 cards are black. And it is true that there might be the off chance of a Wheel of Fortune that gets 10+ creatures in both graves to play it for it's alternate cost. But now Anger is even more important since Hellion didn't need haste, and Avatar does.
- Trying out Fact or Fiction and Burning Wish. FoF would be the highest costed spell in the whole deck (hard casted). That's the only reason it's not in already.
But overall I'm pretty happy to the changes to the deck so far from what it was before. Instead of getting a 3rd turn hasted Nicol Bolas and occasionally 2nd turn, I get a nice rate of 1st and 2nd turn Bolas + Bladewing the Risen (without counter).
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Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / Help me build a fun green deck!
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on: May 26, 2004, 07:58:09 pm
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you should try:
Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary Decree of Savagery Treetop Village Rancor Priest of Titania Whirlwind Creeping Mold
my friend had a (very) casual green deck, these cards were in it along with Multani and a few others you already listed. but I don't know his exact deck list.
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Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / Casual UBR Reanimator deck - Help cutting it down to 60
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on: May 25, 2004, 03:57:52 am
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looks like no one really cares about this thread, but i'm going to post an update anyway.
played with it a little, but the FoW's got me every time. here's what it looks like now:
Fatties: 6 2 Nicol Bolas 1 Bladewing the Risen 1 Akroma, Angel of Wrath 1 Crater Hellion 1 Scion of Darkness
Reanimation: 8 4 Exhume 4 Animate Dead
Discard: 5 4 Duress 1 Unmask
Draw/Dumping Spells: 10 3 Buried Alive 4 Careful Study 1 Frantic Search 1 Wheel of Fortune 1 Entomb
Others: 6 2 Anger 1 Bladewing's Thrall 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Vampiric Tutor 1 Yawgmoth's Will
Mana: 25 4 Dark Ritual 1 Sol Ring 1 Mox Diamond 1 Lotus Petal 4 Badlands 4 Underground Sea 2 Volcanic Island 4 Bloodstained Mire 1 Strip Mine 3 Swamp
Here's what I found out:
- I had way too many creatures. Was trying to do too many things at once.
- Entomb is almost always for Akroma.
- Buried Alive almost always gets Anger, Akroma, Nicol Bolas, Bladewing the Risen, Bladewing's Thrall, Scion of Darkness in that order.
- I don't know how I played without Bladewing the Risen/Thrall before. I got a first/second turn Buried Alive/hasted Bladewing the Risen + Nicol Bolas a few times. After that turn they're left with no cards, down 11 life, I can't pay it's upkeep, but Bladewing was there to finish the job.
- Tried out Cabal Therapy but I rarely used it's flashback, and only used it on myself a couple times. Duress is suprerior to me. Unmask is great, with 29 black cards in the deck.
- Lotus Petal got thrown back in. It just works great with Yawgmoth's Will, used it for a Careful Study/Wheel of Fortune a couple times. It also payed the upkeep cost for Nicol Bolas after a first turn Study, 2nd turn Exhume.
- Scion might be a waste, but I've first turn Dark Ritual/Cycle, second turn exhume enough for me to keep it.
That's about it, if anyone cared.
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Eternal Formats / Creative / dragon question
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on: May 24, 2004, 06:15:02 pm
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you can still use the Ambasador's ability if there's only 2 card left in their library (if i remember correctly, this isn't from experience, only experience from other milling effect used on Mtgo).
their last 2 cards plop in their grave, and they lose on their draw step.
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Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / Casual UBR Reanimator deck - Help cutting it down to 60
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on: May 21, 2004, 06:21:51 pm
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Ok, going to take lots of your ideas but for different reasons.
Fatties: 10 2 Nicol Bolas 1 Bladewing the Risen 1 Dragon Tyrant 1 Akroma, Angel of Wrath 1 Phantom Nishoba 1 Crater Hellion 1 Avatar of Woe 1 Petradon 1 Scion of Darkness
1 Bladewing's Thrall
Reanimation: 11 4 Exhume 4 Animate Dead 3 Necromancy
Draw/Dumping Spells: 11 4 Buried Alive 4 Careful Study 1 Frantic Search 1 Wheel of Fortune 1 Entomb
Others: 6 3 Anger 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Vampiric Tutor 1 Yawgmoth's Will
Mana: 24 4 Dark Ritual 1 Sol Ring 1 Mox Diamond 4 Badlands 4 Underground Sea 2 Volcanic Island 4 Bloodstained Mire 1 Strip Mine 3 Swamp
Yeah so it's 63 cards right now.
I know, I know... weaker version of what you posted. But I really wanted to make a "Nicol Bolas Deck" not a Reanimator. Less effective, but just personal taste. When I said I know some people who would whine about the Dragon combo I also meant I wouldn't have fun with it.
I forgot about Bladewing, in this deck he has 2 targets, Bolas or Tyrant. And I also like him because if you use a Animate Dead or Necromancy on him the other Dragon isn't vulnerable to enchantment kill/bounce/hate.
I also like how Animate Dead, Necromancy, and Scion can steal critters from their grave after Nicol Bolas hits. Probably overkill at that point, but eh. I didn't mention that half the time we play Free For All games. Gives it a little more staying power (but I really just play this deck to trash one person, laugh in their face, then get jumped by everyone else). Also the reason for Arcanis, but I'll play without him for a while. Reanimates really weren't an option.
Crater Hellion saved me lots of times against my friend's Budget Green Stompy deck. It might get cut later on, i'll see. And I know 2 Nicol Bolas barely increases the chance of him popping out with so many tutors, but like I said, personal taste.
Thanks for the feedback.
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Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / Casual UBR Reanimator deck - Help cutting it down to 60
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on: May 21, 2004, 12:13:42 am
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I like Petradon a lot, and I think I got one laying around here somewhere. And I don't know why I didn't add Entomb on the list. Just threw this deck together after not playing over half a year.
But I really don't want to go for the Dragon combo. Definitely will make the deck a lot stronger, but I know some people who will whine about it.
I have a few questions:
1) Why 2 Mountains and 1 Island? Why not 3 Volcanic Islands? There's no Blood Moons being thrown down here if that's the reason, but a few Wastelands.
2) Your thoughts on Mox Diamond? I like it a lot in my deck. Of course it also pushed my graveyard over the edge to threshold after 2 Careful Study. Not worth it?
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Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / Casual UBR Reanimator deck - Help cutting it down to 60
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on: May 20, 2004, 08:11:59 pm
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Hello, my first post. I hope it's in the right forum.
Anyway here's my deck:
Fatties: Nicol Bolas x2 Arcanis the Omnipotent x1 Phantom Nishoba x1 Akroma, Angel of Wrath x1 Symbiotic Wurm x1 Crater Hellion x1 Visara the Dreadful x1 Scion of Darkness x1 Reya Dawnbringer x1
Reanimation Spells: Stitch Together x3 Doomed Necromancer x3 Zombify x1
Draw/Dumping spells: Careful Study x4 Frantic Search x1 Deep Analysis x2 Buried Alive x2 Wheel of Fortune x1
Others: Anger x3 Squee, Goblin Nabob x1 Chainer's Edict x1 Fire/Ice x2 Demonic Tutor x1 Vampiric Tutor x1 Yawgmoth's Will x1
Mana: Dark Ritual x3 Sol Ring x1 Mox Diamond x1 Lotus Petal x1 Badlands x4 Underground Sea x4 Volcanic Island x4 Bloodstained Mire x4 Strip Mine x1 Library of Alexandria x1 Swamp x3 Island x3
First of all, of the people I play with, no one has any of the power 9. But there's just about everything else: Mishra's Workshops, Library of Alexandria, Mirror Universe, Mana Drain, Force of Will... It's very casual, but we still play by Type I rules. And we also don't play with sideboards, we could, but we know each others decks already.
The deck can usually pull off a 2nd or 3rd turn Nicol Bolas, most of the time hasted. He also has good synergy with Scion of Darkness & Wheel of Fortune. He's really the main focus of the deck. Even if he's just sitting in my grave being intimidating.
The deck is 67 cards right now (if I counted correctly). Any suggestions?
I'm thinking 10 critters to animate seems fine for 67, but if it's at 60 cards 9 or even 8 might be good enough?
How many animation spells do you play in your decks?
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