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1  Eternal Formats / Eternal Article Discussion / Re: [Worldwake - New Card Discussion] Jace, The Mindsculptor on: February 07, 2010, 06:25:44 am
Sorry to be the heavy on this one kids, but the answer is a resounding No.

Vegeta spells it out pretty well.

Sylvan library is a decent comparable for proving this cards hopelessness, but you could also look instead to what is currently being played to gain advantage.  It's stuff like Dark Confidant, Mystic Remora and Sensei's Top tricks.  Skeletal Scrying, which is a fine card and pretty powerful (and only slightly off color) is too slow, situational and risky for the current environment.  That card makes Jace look like a three-legged anvil.

Tezzeret, which wins the game, or can get any artifact that costs >5 and put it directly into play, is barely in the current lists as a one-off.  Think hard about that for a second.  Ok.  So, Eastman's right.  This will probably fit it into decks making them slightly worse, but still good enough to T8 and have people cook up amazing rationales for how it "won them so many games".  It's sure to be a house in other formats, so it won't hurt to grab one or two and be casual-faux-competitive with it.  But please don't think this is going to have any effect on real Vintage.



Bumping this thread because the set is released now. I've been playing Jace as a 1-of in my Tezz deck now since the Prerelease. This card is actually pretty nutty. It's not so much that the raw power is overwhelming in any way, but the sheer utility that it provides is amazing. I don't know how many times I've won because I bounced someone's Tinkerbot or Cold-Eyed Selkie and then Brainstormed a couple of times.

He also sets up your Dark Confidants to not kill you if you can't find Top. He hides relevant cards from your hand on the top of your library that you don't want to have Thoughtseized away or puts back that Sphinx so you can cast Tinker.

Just... everything about this card is great.
2  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: UBr Tezz on: October 14, 2009, 11:46:20 am
I really like the inclusion of the Trap package in the SB! I'll definitely try that.

One question I have though - how do you like Spell Pierce? I keep going back and forth between more countermagic and more card draw in my build, and this looks cheap enough to make a huge difference in my matches while also providing some much-needed protection against a surprise Sadistic Sacrament.
3  Vintage Community Discussion / Non-Vintage / Re: [Chattanooga, TN] 10/31/09 @ Dicehead Games - Win a Mana Drain! on: October 13, 2009, 10:11:50 pm
Bump! We're playing for a Mana Drain!
4  Vintage Community Discussion / Non-Vintage / [Chattanooga, TN] 10/31/09 @ Dicehead Games - Win a Mana Drain! on: October 06, 2009, 06:57:14 pm
HALLOWEEN LEGACY MONSTER MASH!

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10/31/2009
Format: Legacy
Sanctioned: YES
REL: Competitive
Tournament Format: Modified Swiss with cut to Top 8

Registration begins at Noon. Round 1 begins at 1:00pm.

Your Judge for this event will be Robert Lee.

Entry fee: $10

First place receives a Mana Drain from the Italian Legends expansion! This prize is guaranteed!
Prize support for the rest of the top 8 will be based on attendance!

HALLOWEEN COSTUME CONTEST!

Since it's Halloween, dress for the occasion! The best-dressed individual wins a special prize!

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Come for the gaming, stay for the candy!

SIDE EVENTS STARTING AT THE END OF ROUND 2!
Just went 0-2 drop? Stick around and have some fun with casual multiplayer-EDH!
5  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: New Illusionary Mask oracle wording on: September 30, 2009, 11:17:30 am
To be fair, Oath targets in its original wording as well. I highly doubt there will be any difference in gameplay.

Mask got fucked though. They should just ban the card due to unmanageable card text and get it over with.
6  Eternal Formats / Eternal Article Discussion / Re: Steel City Vault - Discussion on: September 21, 2009, 11:39:39 pm
Why can't you do that and run drains too, though? To me, the benefit of protection you get running Drains outweighs the +4 options (and a couple of them are redundant) you get from not running drains. I'm certain that some kind of convergence of this list and regular Tezz will be the most optimal build.
7  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: Trying on black, hows it look? on: September 21, 2009, 10:57:57 pm
-4 The Rack, -2 Mind Twist, -3 Nantuko Shade, -1 Doom Blade, -1 Sol Ring, -5 or 6 Swamp
+4 Null Rod, +1 Necropotence, +1 Yawgmoth's Will, +1 Tendrils of Agony, +2 Thoughtseize, +1 Dark Confidant, +3-4 Mishra's Factory, +3 Wasteland

If you can afford/proxy it, slide a Black Lotus and a Mox Jet in there too. Hymn's could probably be Sinkhole as well, if you can afford it.
8  Eternal Formats / Eternal Article Discussion / Re: Steel City Vault - Discussion on: September 21, 2009, 12:16:46 am
What are the advantages of running SCV over a similar Welder Vault build with Drains? Is it just the fact that you get to squeeze in a few more busted spells?
9  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: Attempt at R/B BurnDown on: September 20, 2009, 11:12:16 pm
I like this burn deck.

1x Black Lotus
1x Mox Ruby
1x Lotus Petal
1x Wheel of Fortune
4x Black Vise
4x Lightning Bolt
4x Chain Lightning
4x Lava Spike
4x Rift Bolt
4x Price of Progress
4x Flame Rift
4x Fireblast
4x Magma Jet
4x Simian Spirit Guide
16x Mountain

Edit: Now that I think about it, Smash to Smithereens would be pretty saucy in here somewhere, maybe in place of Flame Rift?
10  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Cockatrice - intended as successor to MWS on: September 19, 2009, 12:31:37 pm
This pushed me to finally register and post some instead of just lurking. I just downloaded this and updated the oracle file, but it doesn't seem to contain any of the early book promos like Mana Crypt. Is there any way to remedy this?
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