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1  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: The thing that should not be... hexmage/dark depths on: October 28, 2009, 02:29:23 am
I tried this deck ans mono black then B with green splash and realized that in vintage it just doesnt work like that. Now i got very fast and reliable Vampiric Dephts since its BUg.
(Still not giving the list since the tourney is still coming ). I tried crop rotation and wordly tutor, and they are total BS compared to living wish since it fetches just the one you need. there is a big chance with crop / wordly that you have either Depths + crop in hand or the other way Hexmage + wordly in hand and that is just shit. For your deck, using 2 dark confidants is just not worth, use more or get other draw engine. And ive played alot of games with my deck and i can assure you ( dunno how much you have playtested ) that you will get owned by stax without any artifact hate and you will have hard time vs very fast combo decks since you dont have counters.
2  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: The thing that should not be... hexmage/dark depths on: October 22, 2009, 04:38:16 pm
I'd have a perfect Vampiric Depths deck ( as i call it ) but big tourney coming so cant publish it before that, though would like to Razz
3  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: Meandeck Doomsday on: October 01, 2009, 01:37:55 pm
With necro do you use vapors to bump it back to hand cause will of course wont work when its on table?
4  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: Metagame Choices: Why play decks that dont win? on: September 25, 2009, 08:24:13 am
Have you ever watched same movie just cause you like it so much? Same in this, someone just keeps playing Oath and waits new sets so he can improve it JUST because he likes it so much and doesnt want the easy win tezz and hopes that some day he can invent something new so he can beat that tezz / tps player with it. Maybe just maybe it's that.
5  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: Meandeck Doomsday on: September 25, 2009, 05:19:25 am
Have to think about Wraiths, its just alot of mana then, have to test it. Good point though.
And ye, ill add 1 + 1 basic lands to the list now that you enlightened me, forgot about that totally.
About necropotence. It is very good card but the problem is that i usually go for combo turn 1 - 2 so i dont have even time to cast it or mana cause its spent to tutoring turn 1 or doomsday turn 2. And 2nd, it eats alot of life and with doomsday + thoughtseize ( as u suggested ) you'll be so low on life that opponent could just finish u before combo goes through. At least Fish / aggro decks. Ive been trying thoughtseizes too, but usually i have 2-3 black cards i dont need at that moment ( turn 1 ) so i can use it to Unmask and then use the mana for something else like A-Recall or ponder or so on, or even another disc. Last the pact -> If i have any mana source in my hand and no counters before casting doomsday i always add pact to the 5 cards cause i usually win the game that turn if no one uses counter, and if uses then i have pact. If its in starting hand or so i can always use it to FoW or MisD.

Ill add the basic lands now and test still abit more with thoughtseize.

More comments would be nice off course.

I thought about the Wraiths allready and basicly it doesnt speed it up at all, then you just postpone your combo by 1 turn gathering up mana before you launch, but then the opponent doesnt know that your doing it. Bad thing in this is that if you dont have counter in your hand your kind of screwed cause your 5 cards has to be : A - call, Black Lotus, Dark Ritual, Mind's Desire and Beacon. So no pact this time then. And you need 3 base mana, or 2 + 1 mox or 2 + black lotus / petal to launch. So not possible at turn 1, or might be with EXACTLY right cards and possibility is like 1-3 % for that Very Happy . Ill try the deck with 1 Wraith today.

Does anyone has any experience vs Stax with doomsday? Thats the only deck i havent played against with new build, and thats the one i fear the most. Some advices against stax ?
6  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: Timmy dreams of being a fish on: September 24, 2009, 10:09:46 am
Heres my Timmy list if you wanna compare.

Timppa

Lands:  17

4 x Volcanic Island
4 x Scalding Tarn ( new )
3 x Mountain
6 x Island

Multicoloured : 8

Creatures :

Gelectrode 4 x  
Razorfin Hunter 4 x

Red : 8

Creatures :

Grim Lavamancer 2 x

Spells:

Lightning Bolt 4 x
Shattering Spree 2 x

Blue : 27

Creatures :

Prodical Sorcerer 2 x

Spells :

Curiosity 4 x
Sigil of sleep 4 x
Brainstorm 1 x
Ponder 1 x
Fow 4 x   
Daze 4 x
Force Spike 3 x
Misdirection 2 x
Repeal 2 x

SB:

3 x Red Elemental Blast
4 x Crash
4 x Tormod's Crypt
4 x Null Rod

Oh ye, and im replacing something with fire // ice, havent decided yet though.
7  Eternal Formats / Creative / Meandeck Doomsday on: September 24, 2009, 06:45:56 am
Havent Seen one in long time and i really like doomsday, tried to make some improvements to my old one and heres the list. Problem is that you need to wait 1 turn after doing doomsday wich gives your opponent time to get ready and he knows exactly what your 5 cards are so if he counters your ancestral recall your kind of screwed so its pretty fragile.

Meandeck Doomsday

Lands : 14

4 x Polluted Delta
4 x Underground Sea
4 x Flooded Strand
2 x Flooded Foothills

Blue : 20

1 x Gush
1 x Brainstorm
1 x Ponder
1 x Ancestral Recall
1 x Time Walk
1 x Misdirection
1 x Mystical Tutor
1 x Personal Tutor l
1 x Mind's Desire
1 x Pact of Negation
4 x FoW
4 x Daze
1 x Hurkyl's Recall
1 x Chain of Vapor

Black : 21

4 x Unmask
3 x Duress
4 x Dark Ritual
2 x Cabal Ritual
4 x Doomsday
1 x Demonic Tutor
1 x Vampiric Tutor
1 x Imperial Seal
1 x Yawghmoth's Will

Red : 1

1 x Beacon of Destruction

Artifacts : 4

1 x Black Lotus
1 x Lotus Petal
1 x Mox Jet
1 x Mox Sapphire

SB :

4 x Leyline of the Void
3 x Tormods Crypt
4 x Energy Flux
3 x Hurkyl's recall
1 x Echoing Truth

Ive been playing against all kinds of decks (legacy, vintage, standard and crappy without any idea ) and won bout 50 % of the games before i made this new list with but 10 improvements. So any comments, and i dont wanna hear any comments about " why to even make doomsday deck in first place " . I had 12 lands before and it was enough but trying with 2 more now.

Sideboard really needs some new cards, havent really thought about it since i made changes to the deck.
8  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: Magic Online Vintage? on: September 24, 2009, 05:17:57 am
Ok, thx. Hmph thats disappointment then, no playtesting online then :/ Well i guess i could test the classic, im not into standard at all. Any clue how much building deck "could" cost?
9  Eternal Formats / Creative / Magic Online Vintage? on: September 24, 2009, 04:40:48 am
Hello, i just downloaded magic online and tried to find out how to play vintage with it but didnt find any solutions. Ive played live games only and now i need deck testing so i thought would be nice to do it online. Im total newbie with MTG online so thanks for the help allready Razz So do i need to buy the cards wich i use or can i somehow test it without aqquiring cards?
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