Show Posts
|
|
Pages: [1] 2 3
|
|
1
|
Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: The Wheel 5.2
|
on: April 21, 2012, 04:03:29 am
|
Hey whitedragon, I stand behind everything you quoted. Just because you disagree does not make me wrong. Your masturbation fixation is not helpful, would you please go away? I would try 1 jace over your 1 control magic. He can still bounce a creature, and he works well with the rest of deck, including help you find that needed colored mana, and helps with bobs. Nice deck keep it going.
Thanks.  If you read back a bit, I tried that. Control Magic is just the better call in this deck. If you are playing the full set of mox + crypt, Jace is the the better option. Getting him out faster makes him much better. I tried out the Pearl quite a while ago too. (and manadrains) But getting colourscrewed was frustrating.
|
|
|
|
|
2
|
Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: The Wheel 5.4
|
on: April 20, 2012, 08:19:47 pm
|
Every time you respond to criticism about your deck it comes off as completely dickish. No wonder very few people are paying attention to this thread. QFT Doesn't really seem like he wants a discussion on anything or suggestions just wants to brag about how good his deck is. I made the Wheel from the ground up. And now I win Type 1 tournaments against quality opposition. I have earned the right to brag here. Both of you could just pay far less attention. The Wheel wins tournaments already, I do not need either of your "help". The Wheel 5.4 1x Ancestral Recall 1x Brainstorm 1x Ponder 1x Mystical Tutor 1x Merchant Scroll 1x Time Walk 1x Tinker 1x Inky Leviathan 1x Fact or Fiction 1x Control Magic 1x Hurkyls Recall 4x Force of Will 2x Spell Pierce 1x Tezzeret 3x Preordain 2x Dark confidant 1x Mind Twist 1x Yawgmoth's Will 1x Demonic Tutor 1x Vampiric Tutor 1x Balance 1x Sensei's Divinig Top 1x Time Vault 1x Voltaic Key 1x Black Lotus 1x Mox Sapphire 1x Mox Jet 1x Mana Vault 1x Sol Ring 1x Library of Alexandria 4x Wasteland 1x Strip Mine 1x Mishra's Factory 1x Tolarian Academy 1x Seat of the Synod 3x Polluted Delta 3x Flooded Strand 4x Underground Sea 2x Tundra 1x Island 1x Muddle the Mixture 1x Snapcaster Mage Sideboard 1x Spell Pierce 1x Hurkyls Recall 1x Energy Flux 2x Planar Void 1x Lose Hope 1x Mana Drain 1x Teferi's Response 1x Seal of Cleansing 4x Porcelain Legionnaire 1x Threads of Disloyalty 1x Engineered plague
|
|
|
|
|
3
|
Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: The Wheel 5.4
|
on: April 20, 2012, 06:28:58 am
|
I don't quite get the comments about bob #3 not being added. If you think bob flips will kill you, then don't run ANY and pick a different draw engine. If you realize bobs are good and thus run 2, then running 3 will increase your odds of a turn 1/2 bob 33%, which is when he's best. That's like saying "Ancestral recalls are good, but I might deck myself sometimes, so I'll only play 1 (if you could run 4)". If something is good, use it or don't use it, but don't "splash it" with just 2. Not running 4 is warranted, as you might just draw more bobs of of bobs (but I'd really consider even 4 since you have mostly low cost cards).
Bob Flips will sometimes kill me. This is just the truth. If you have played Bob, you know this. Getting a turn one Bob is lovely. Obviously this is the best time to cast one. But do i want to cast another on turn 2? And a third on turn 3? Not really, no. I won prefer to win instead. Bob IS strong. But he also has some fundamental weaknesses. Creature kill for instance is an embarrassing way to not draw cards. Comparing Bob to Ancestral is really just not understanding. When I have Inifinite turns, Ancestral Recall is not going to kill me. Having a Bob in play can. When I cast Ancestral, I draw cards. When I cast Bob, I might draw cards, provided you dont have a lightning bolt. Lightning bolt does not stop an Ancestral. Ancestral is OBVIOUSLY stronger, but by your reasoning, I should not play it because I am only "splashing one." The same is true for Lotus and Sol Ring and lots of other stuff. The strongest card in this type of deck is the FIRST one. The first enormous/Invisible/Unkillable robot is the best, sure a second is lovely, but the first IS the best. Since this deck is about only playing the best, the fact I play a second Bob really is a statement about the power of the guy. BUT, I really do not want two of him in play. well, sometimes. And sometimes I look at him and want him to be a Blue card. And sometimes I wonder where my Black Mana went. Or wonder why they are playing creature kill in their base deck. "If something is good, use it or don't use it"  Funny ! Why can't I use it the right amount? Pearl is definitely worth it. When you have a working version of this deck I will be more inclined to believe you. Pearl is certainly close. BUT, it only helps cast ONE spell in the base deck with its coloured mana. Getting manascrewed or colourscrewed is a reality for ALL magic decks. That one card not tapping for Blue when it could, irritates me. Because of all the single Blue cantrips, all I need is One Blue Mana a lot of the time. And being this deck, it will generally win if it can get its shit together. Tiny little improvements in stability is what I am striving for, not outrageous first turns. Those will happen if I have the Pearl or not. Pearl improves sprint, but not distance. And when they have outrageous first turns, maybe I can spell pierce, because Tundra taps for Blue. This deck does not Mulligan anywhere near as often as any other Type 1 decks. And sure, replace a wasteland with a pearl, it will goldfish better in practice, no doubt. Wasteland wrecks opponents, and can win games. Or, ...Perhaps you have some other suggestion on what to remove to include the Pearl? That is the rub. Figuring out how to sideboard is even harder than playing this beast. Chalice and null rod don't become significantly better because of ONE extra mox. But your turn 1 abilities, and the aforementioned Tinker, yawg will, balance, twist DO get significantly better turn 1 - as well as bob + top. Pfweeeeeet! Ref! How come you get to use and draw the pearl on your turn one, but I do not get to play a turn 1 Chalice or Null Rod? Fair is fair. In your "I got a Pearl turn 1" example, sure, it is all roses. And in my counter example "YOU got a Pearl turn 1" and it was WORTHLESS. Chalice and Null rod DO become significantly better because of the ONE extra MOX they stop in THIS game, the theoretical one you have not played, and the actual ones I have played. I have looked at the perfect turn 1 infinity turn hand, and conceeded before drawing a card because I only had artifacts, and he went first with a Nether Void. Losing to main deck Artifact hatred is no fun. Reducing the artifact count purely because it can be targetted IS worth doing, it is a weakness, and one I am happy to not have any more. The MIshra's Factory has been Extremely useful, often because it chooses when it wants to be an artifact. (it can be very funny with the Voltaic key too) But your turn 1 abilities, and the aforementioned Tinker, yawg will, balance, twist DO get significantly better turn 1 - as well as bob + top. Yawgies and Twist are NOT good to cast on turn one. Balance is often not good to cast on the draw. Tinker, sure is silly, but it still gives the 3 more turns with my robot. I spoze you are going to tell me I am playing the wrong robot, but I really think you just dont get this deck. Top turn One or Two does not really matter. This is Vintage after all...to suggest something is "broken enough" so you are okay with nerfing it a little since it's still good is really unacceptable.  You REALLY dont get this deck I play Inky because it is "broken enough". Blightsteel is more broken. But Inky wins more games. And, I do not mind if you find this deck unacceptable. The bonus of 1 mox FAR outweighs the times it will bite you. But if I dont play it, it CAN'T bite me. Turn 1 chalice @ 0 while you hold the mox pearl sucks, but isn't back breaking. Sure. You want to win LOTS. I just want to win. You want to not get your back broken. I dont want to give them the chance. And me Wasting / Stripmining their only colour source could be back breaking to them. Turn 1 two land + confidant, while your opponent plays sapphire/island on turn 2 to drain your bob and then dump into jace? Yeah...much worse. Had you the pearl instead of tundra there, you land bob and probably win that game. Can You have the Pearl instead of the Sapphire? (you just lose) Why do you get the ONE good mox, and not the other FOUR crappy ones? Do you really think an on the play mana drain turn one off an Island and sapphire is a reasonable thing to expect to face every game? Can i Force of Will the Jace now? Why did I not spell pierce their Sapphire on turn one? Stripmine their Island. And laugh at their double blue spell that will never be cast as they draw off-colour Moxen? OK, sure, in your example, I drew a tolarian academy and a seat of the synod, what does it matter that I got a Bob? No Black mana in the area. Good thing I am only playing 2, a second one in hand might be a lost game for me. Overall, your deck is solid...  Solid like a fat dwarf. but i think the 1 on color mox and a 3rd bob are huge. And 62 cards seems bad. What do you think should be deleted to include them? Suddenly I want to be playing all these extra Moxen because sudden I am relying on a turn 1 Bob, and suddenly I am weak to creature kill as well as artifact kill... (Currently I am enjoying the sideboarded Engineered plague, naming Wizard.) You say you don't have a lot of colorless eaters? Bobs, top, balance, yawg will, mind twist, sol ring, key, vault, tezz, hurks, fof, walk, tinker, control magic, scroll, most of your SB....I actually see MORE colorless using cards than not in your list. I dont. Bob = 1 Top = 1 (+1+1...) Balance =1 Solring = -1 Key = 1 +1 Vault = 2 Scroll = 1 Hurkyls =1 Walk =1 Yawgies =2 Tinker =2 Control Magic =2 Tezz = 3 FoF = 3 Mindtwist =X Of that lot, the stuff that "takes" colourless is the stuff that takes more than one. I would count as Yawgies, Tinker, Control Magic, Tezz, FoF & Mindtwist. I do not need to cast any of them on turn 1. Being able to is lovely with the nuts draw, but as you demonstrated, the nuts draw often does not involve off colour moxen. Give me a SOl ring instead any day. The deck you are describing is a solid type one staple - Tezz. It works. But it does have holes that other decks exploit, and it aint this deck.
|
|
|
|
|
4
|
Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: The Wheel 5.2
|
on: April 20, 2012, 06:20:27 am
|
Muddle the Mixture seems like decent tech to me. Being able to find Balance against all the aggro decks in the meta right now seems awesome. Tis true. Balance can and does recover games. I would squeeze an extra dredge card in your sideboard unless the dredge players are pretty weak in your area. Yixlid Jailer perhaps?
Dredge is strong, and is played. There were four of them at the GP. Yixlid does seem to fit best. Stops some other odd stuff too. Only playtesting can tell if the deck has the right amount of moxes vs lands. You can't assume that it will just be better with a complete suite of moxes. I have done the playtesting. This seems to be the most stable, and reliable. For me anyway. The pearl is really close though. I think at least 1 mana drain deserves a main deck slot since your deck has a lot of potential to gain serious tempo off it. Not sure what you would swap it with. What in your experience are the weakest cards in your deck right now?
The mana drain in the board was in the main, and I used to want to play more, but they just get stuck in my hand sometimes. Double blue is really hard to guarantee on turn 2, and that is the critical turn it seems. Well, after turn one anyway. The dream draw of double Blue turn one is just a fantasy really. What in your experience are the weakest cards in your deck right now? hmmmm. Some of the narrower cards come to mind, but then there are the games where they kick and just outright win them. Mind Twist is like that. And when I am winning the Balance looks like a complete seat belt, but, then there are the games when the other side has a swarm of creatures and it just wins the game. cut from earlier.... maybe some of that lot.... ...Mind Twist, Muddle, a wasteland, Yawgies, a Dark C, a preordain, 2xSpell pierce, Hurkyls, Control M, Fact-o-F & Mystical tutor are 12 good places to start thinking....
|
|
|
|
|
5
|
Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: The Wheel 5.4
|
on: April 12, 2012, 09:16:57 pm
|
Aether Flux Aether Flux After some investigation I think we are both talking about ENERGY Flux, which is a legitimate Vintage card and definitely worth playing. There is no such card as Aether Flux. Thanks for investigating that one word error we both made. If you don't actually want any feedback on your list, but just want people to tell you how awesome it is, then best of luck. If not, then read on...
I really do not need you or anyone else to tell me how awesome this deck is. The Wheel has won many tournaments. (as shown above) As for the Muddle the Mixture targets, I recognize that there are cards in your deck that cost 2, but I don't see anything on that list that is good enough to warrant running an overcosted and limited tutor/counterspell. OK. You are claiming Time Vault isn't “good enough”. I think Time Vault is “good enough”. I am quite OK disagreeing with you. We will have to agree to disagree on some of the other stuff. Cool Bananas.
|
|
|
|
|
6
|
Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: The Wheel 5.2
|
on: April 11, 2012, 11:05:57 pm
|
|
Wow BC ! You have actually built this? Thats astounding. As you may have noticed I am more than happy just typing away and treating this mostly as a diary. I do not expect anyone else to ever actually build anything I have made....
If you are playing type one against other random decks, then yes, by all means play all 5 mox and the rest of them. But against other type One decks, they really hurt on a fairly regular basis. Of the big list of great Zero & 1 cost artifacts, Red & Green Mox are the obvious last choice. White has come and gone. Being able to cast Balance was lovely, but replacing it with the second Tundra just worked better. Originally I switched to a scrubland, but not tapping for Blue cost me a match, so it became a Tundra.
Having an intentionally lower amount of artifacts has won me games. Having my opponents cast a turn one Null Rod off a Mox was Hilarious, especially since I didn't have any artifacts....
I think it is fair to say that I am NOT most Vintage players. Shops & Bazzars are big around here. So is Chalice for Zero, and all manner of outlandish massed artifact hatred. Seeds of Innocence is a very real card that I counterspelled last tourney.
Yes, “Tinker, Mind Twist, Balance, and Yawgmoth's Will are also significantly worse without artifact mana,” This is true. But they are so stupidly overpowered that a slightly lower power version is actually still quite good enough. And the increase in power level of those impressive cards is simply not worth the weakness that it introduces to the deck. Suddenly all of those cards listed above become effective, and simply are not effective against me.
“You may occasionally have a bad game against Shops”
It aint just tranny sphere. Dealing with Massed artifact hatred is a standard part of Type one. I am playing Hurkyls Recall for a reason.
“If you're playing against Titania's Song, March of the Machines, Seeds of Innocence, or Aether Flux, then you are playing against a casual deck and you should beat them anyway.”
(: …. You do realise I am PLAYING Aether Flux? I spoze I must be a casual player.
“As for the Muddle the Mixture targets, I recognize that there are cards in your deck that cost 2, but I don't see anything on that list that is good enough to warrant running an overcosted and limited tutor/counterspell.”
It gets the primary win condition, in a way that cannot be counterspelled. It is card 59-60, and it seems to work pretty well.
The White Dragon …While I can see the similarity to the old Keeper Decks, it was not built from that base. (And there are way worse things to be compared with than one of the most successful decks ever made)
“Muddle is NOT a bad card by any means. It's never dead. Vs decks with sorceries and instants, it's a hard counter...not bad. Against decks like fish or shops where it can't be used as a counter, it is a 3 mana DT that is not effected by spheres.”
Yup. That is pretty well why I am playing it.
I have tried drains base, but it just didn't mesh properly. Consistency issues. Getting Two Blue was just too unreliable on turn 2. Spell Pierce has been working better.
And the Pearl is tempting, but again, I prefer the Tundra.
“You have a lot of colorless eating spells.“ Not really.
“ Crypt I think is unnecessary in this deck. It's a gamble card in any deck that doesn't aim to kill extremely quickly.” I agree.
“I might also consider a 3rd bob (or 4) for the reason above - turn 1 bob is back breaking vs any matchup.”
Um. sort of. Bob is dangerous. Bob gets me dead too often for me to want the third base. Against any sort of aggression, he can be an embarrassing death sentence. Burn, Zoo & white Trash do exist. (but, I have been thinking pretty hard about the 3rd and 4th Bob against the Bob & Top Show, but they would be in the sideboard.)
I spoze what I am really pointing out is that this deck is SO stupidly overpowered that the weaknesses introduced by adding the extra artifacts seems unneeded. Allowing some spells to suddenly become effective seems bad. Sure those extra artifacts make broken draws truely obscene, but they also lose the game sometimes. Without those extra weaknesses, those potentially problem cards are not effective. (Trygon Predator, Ancient Grudge, Shattering Spree, Rack & Ruin, Shatterstorm, Pulverise....) When their are no other cards to worry about, focussing on my own decks potential problems does work. Death by self inflicted damage is very real. Not having the Manacrypt & Bob 3+4 reduces that admittedly small risk. But when you are the only person having turns, ANY risk seems silly. This deck wins most of the games it plays, therefore, focussing on those losses seems the right place to look.
|
|
|
|
|
7
|
Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: The Wheel 5.2
|
on: April 10, 2012, 08:10:53 pm
|
|
Currently the only decks that really concern me are .. Tier One Tezz Tier One Dredge & Elf combo
I have game against all of them, but I have not played enough to really know.
I think I currently beat dredge, but it is close. (Popular around here) I think I go even with Elf Combo. (Beat it twice in tourneys, but lost out in testing...just)
I beat White Trash two tournies ago. I do not know if that was a fluke, but I think I have a much better chance against it than the Bob & Top show. Tezz (The Bob & Top Show) is the only deck that I think currently beats The Wheel. And it aint by much.
Any of the above deck can, will and do take games from The Wheel. Mud too especially preboard. They are ALL quality type One decks. And the Wheel is proud to make them ALL feel very nervous.
|
|
|
|
|
8
|
Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: The Wheel 5.2
|
on: April 10, 2012, 07:20:36 pm
|
I haven't been following this thread closely, so I might have missed it,... Seems bad,
Translation... I have not read this thread, or played the deck, or even read the decklist, ...but I have some opinions, and it Seems bad,  Depends on your point of view. When my opponent casts a turn 1 chalice for zero on the play, does the extra 3xMoxen & Manacrypt seems such a good idea? On turn 1, how about... Lodestone golem or Thorn or Trinisphere or Kataki or Null Rod? Or Turn 2 Karn or titania's Song or March of the machines or Seeds of innocence or Aether Flux...... Or Turn 3 Mox Monkey, Kill it, Kill it, Kill it? The list gets pretty long pretty quickly, and who know what madness they will cast? The above has happened to me. Sometimes pretty regularly. Shops are BAD for Moxen especially. And getting killed by your own Mana Crypt when you are having infinite turns is REALLY embarrassing. Moxen ARE strong, Crypt too. (Arguing otherwise is just stupid) but this deck is not about that sort of abuse. This deck has SO many abusive plays that it does not need to get lucky, drop the hand and do something silly on turn 1. It is incredibly reliable that it will do something abusive every game, but it does not have to be turn 1. Wasteland is what I am playing instead of the Moxen. Killing Bazzars and Shops can regularly win me games. Say they play a shop and cast a Trinisphere. And on my turn I kill the Shop. Big smiles over here. The Moxen you reckon I should be playing cant be cost, the wasteland I am playing may have just won the game. It has certainly happened that way as I lock them out with their own cards. Look at the example hands being given in the above articles on why to play Gifts over Fact-o-F, now insert a wasteland into any of them and they are all suddenly WRECKED. For a whole lotta decks having lots of non blue mana is just not that useful if you aint got no Blue. That is a primary reason I am not playing Manadrains. If I cannot guarantee being able to cast them, they just aint that good, and playing the Moxen and crypt just dont help cast Blue spells. This deck is not about killing goldfish. If you want to kill goldfish, play the Moxen. This deck does not get colour screwed by drawing the wrong off colour moxen, and wrong off colour spells. It is about consistency. That is also why it does not mulligan, even though it is playing all sorts of strange one offs. It is also about getting up the opponents nose. Tolarian Academy regularly taps for 2 mana, and sometimes more. That is enough. Sure, some decks use it more abusively, but I do not need to. I do not need bucketloads of mana on a regular basis, sure it is nice sometimes, but again, this deck is consistent. The weakness that the extra moxen add is just not worth it. When I wasteland THEIR Tolarian Academy, I can often just win becaue their counterspells (well, ...Manadrains) just dont work no more. And, If you can't figure out what the Muddle gets, you really haven't looked at the decklist. Stuff Muddle can get... Time Vault (...the primary win condition) Time Walk Balance (...the primary reset button) & Dark Confidant & Snapcaster, (cast the Ancestral in the bin....) All of that seems rather good to me. Or you can just counterspell a Manadrain, Force of will, Timewalk, Ancestral, Spell Pierce....
|
|
|
|
|
9
|
Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: The Wheel 5.2
|
on: April 09, 2012, 08:00:13 pm
|
I checked out some other dredge decks. They always have some way of dealing with the Peacekeeper, or my library.  Yixlid seems like a good singleton. Graf Cage looks interesting too.
|
|
|
|
|
10
|
Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: The Wheel 5.2
|
on: April 09, 2012, 08:17:43 am
|
Cheers RMN.  Cunning Wish is not something I had considered. Interesting idea though. I think it would require some significant rewiring of the board. Certainly a clever suggestion, but I think it might just be too expensive. Using it to get a counter is going to get too expensive, same with T-response which wants to be used as a 2 cost. And maybe Hurkyl's too. Even so the versatility of Cunning Wish is pretty huge. hmmm. Chain of Vapor and lots of other instants would suddenly be much more tempting. But, that is not really this deck. The Wheel just doesn't reliably have that level of disposable mana. I can certainly see it being good when fuelled with Mana crypt and Mana drain mana. Sure turn 2 manual Inky Leviathans have happened, but I would not want to rely on it. The reason I play Inky is because I have fought against it. Being able to point at almost all of the other robots makes them weaker against lots of generic cards. Almost everyone plays something that can point at a creature. Jace for instance does not want to see, or not see, an Inky. Same with swords, Icy manipulator, gilded drake, duplicant, maze of ith or Vedalken shackles. Not that anyone is going to play with any one of those, but they are examples of the types of things that people do actually play. Who knows what the opponent actually is play in type one? And oddly enough Islandwalk matters. Sure Hurkyls Recall is and should be present in the room, I am playing it so obviously I rate the card, but all of the available enormous robots are going to go home when Hurkyls gets cast so it is not like that is a reason to play one over any of the other choices. Actually, it is a reason to run Sundering Titan, but apart from that Path/StP target, Inky is the best robot to have in your hand. This is because casting Inky is a fairly standard and easy thing to do. 9 mana is a whole lot easier to reach than 11, or 12. Sure sundering only costs 8, but it dont trample, or Islandwalk and it constantly would get pointed at. The only time I have had problems with Inky being able to kill is with that Stupid Karn being able to become a 0/8, and maybe sometimes when a 2 turn kill was needed in a race, which is extremely rare. Lose hope really is the better choice over Darkblast, for me anyway. Killing the opening Bop/NobH/LLelf/Bob is the important bit for both of them. The moment I cast Lose Hope I get to scry. Scry is a good trick. It is actually pretty close to a bonus preordain. Being able to pick up and recast DB might be useful some time in the future, but it isn't right now. Of course, being able to do it over and over, or twice at the start of a turn to kill a 2/2 is good.... But I don't seem to need to do that. Whereas if they only cast a single Bob for the game, Lose Hope is just better. " You need to improve your dredge package. Start with 4 leyline of the void and 2 yixlid jailer." Um. No. This is not your standard Tezz build. When they drop a Bazzar, a standard Tezz build is on a real timeline. Mine kills it with a Wasteland. One of the real advantages mine has is it's ability to not mulligan. It just doesn't. Planar void can be searched for and cast on turn 2, or 3. Leyline just dont work like that. I do not really mind if my graveyard is gone. Losing Yawgies is a downer, but Planar void seems to cripple Dredge almost as effectively. Playing F-o-F over Gifts is a small advantage to planar too. Sure if I had a 50 card sideboard there would be those 6 cards, but currently the sideboard is full. One Yixlid jailer does seem tempting. I am a little wary of Yixlid-J. I saw a game at the GP where the Oath player had a 2/3rds chance of winning against the 3 bloodghasts and others. Instead he flipped a Yixlid Jailer, and died. This is where I am thinking maybe the peacekeeper would be cool. I am not sure Dredge actually has a way to win. I am playing "Tezzeret the Seeker" To me there really only seems like one choice, but, OK sure. Just to make sure it is obvious I looked up the other Tezz, and that aint gunna happen. Control Magic has been ace. eg 20/20 flyer or Blightsteel Collossus or Sphinx-o-t-S-W ... or just Bob at the low end. Sure Jace can deal with those problems too, but Jace just solves the problem, he does not cause them a solve it or die question. When they have 3 or more creatures, Control magic is just better than Jace too. I fully understand it is not to everyone's tastes, and if everyone agreed with me, I would be wrong. (Which is an odd concept in itself). But right now Control Magic has been a complete Bomb. And I can always pitch it to Force, or sideboard it out. When you Oath of Druids out some ridiculous Bullshit, I am not meant to just take it. "I feel like some of the decks that you want the (control Magic) effect against the most have the best answers to it. Fish has qasali pridemage, and vs mud it's 2UU" Sure. And when you tap out I will still take your Q-mage. Or you cast your Q-mage once I have controlled your other creature. OK, I spent 4 mana, you spent 3 on your solution. it might still be working better than Jace/bounce in that situation. And it can still be used to Force of will. Against Mud it can cost more than 2UU, but once you have their creature, what are they gunna do? I now have a win condition, or they need a THIRD creature. Swarming decks HATE conrol magic. Same with tinker, well, unless they get Inky Leviathan... And the real target for Control Magic is Bob.
|
|
|
|
|
11
|
Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: The Wheel 5.2
|
on: April 06, 2012, 09:09:38 am
|
|
Fact or fiction may be better as Gifts Ungiven. But not in my hands, not at the moment anyway.
Spell Pierce is bad against Mud, and dredge. One make everything too expensive, one doesn't cast spells that can be countered.
Maybe I should play a peacekeeper...?
|
|
|
|
|
12
|
Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: The Wheel 5.4
|
on: April 06, 2012, 08:59:21 am
|
|
The Wheel 5.4
1x Ancestral Recall 1x Brainstorm 1x Ponder 1x Mystical Tutor 1x Merchant Scroll 1x Time Walk 1x Tinker 1x Inky Leviathan 1x Fact or Fiction 1x Control Magic 1x Hurkyls Recall 4x Force of Will 2x Spell Pierce 1x Tezzeret 3x Preordain 2x Dark confidant 1x Mind Twist 1x Yawgmoth's Will 1x Demonic Tutor 1x Vampiric Tutor 1x Balance 1x Sensei's Divinig Top 1x Time Vault 1x Voltaic Key
1x Black Lotus 1x Mox Sapphire 1x Mox Jet 1x Mana Vault 1x Sol Ring 1x Library of Alexandria 4x Wasteland 1x Strip Mine 1x Mishra's Factory 1x Tolarian Academy 1x Seat of the Synod 3x Polluted Delta 3x Flooded Strand 4x Underground Sea 2x Tundra 1x Island
1x Muddle the Mixture 1x Snapcaster Mage
Sideboard 1x Spell Pierce 1x Hurkyls Recall 1x Energy Flux 2x Planar Void 1x Lose Hope 1x Mana Drain 1x Teferi's Response 1x Seal of Cleansing 4x Porcelain Legionnaire 1x Threads of Disloyalty 1x Engineered plague
The Wheel is complete Bollocks. Sideboarding is the hardest bit. What to take out...? Mind Twist, Muddle, a wasteland, Yawgies, a Dark C, a preordain, 2xSpell pierce, Hurkyls, Control M, Fact-o-F & Mystical tutor are 12 good places to start thinking.
I manually cast a turn 2 Inky !
And then there was the game Karn becoming a 0/8 made Tinker for Inky look decidedly BAD!
Losing with 2 porcelain Legionaires in play was a tad disappointing, but he did play outrageously well, and win the coin toss so the Mana crypt didn't kill him. Stupid Karn. missed the Teferi's response play, so fair enough too I spoze. The Porcelain legionaires still seem worth it, and did work.
Currently I am concerned about dredge, Yixlid Jailer can't be nature's claimed, maybe....
E plague on Elf or Wizard can win games. (Illusion just dont seem enough against dredge) Lose hope works fine on enemy Bob's, or a nobleH/elf/swarmer. Threads of Disloyalty is to take over Bob, or something in a swarm deck.
Rest of board should be obvious.
|
|
|
|
|
13
|
Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: The Wheel 5.2
|
on: March 31, 2012, 08:09:08 am
|
Just won the Vintage at GP Melbourne.  Play of the day was Control Magic on Marit Lage (20/20 flyers anyone?) The deck is AWESOME. If I was a better player, I would have won more games. My worst play was just idiotic. He tapped a strip mine for mana, put it thru his Karn, and killed my seat of the synod. I let it happen while holding Teferi's Response, instead of kill Karn, draw cards, untap, win. IDIOT Above, I have said This deck is hard. You, dear reader, just don't understand. ..... Brain Melting. Dear Admin, How many tournaments do I need to win for this brutal, ridiculous deck to go back to the Competitive Forum?
|
|
|
|
|
14
|
Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: The Wheel 5.2
|
on: March 18, 2012, 10:18:37 pm
|
Win-Win-Win - ID (Real world stuff). Thanks to Aloyisous for letting me ID the final and clear out. (He did beat me last time we squared up, He of the U/B Bob-athon) But, I think that means I won, again. Seems to be happening a lot with this particular deck. Mind Twist outright won a game. Balance is WAY strong too. I played Fact-or Fiction main, purely because It is more Fun and Enjoyable to play when distracted. The Seal of Cleansing was good. The Threads of Disloyalty were OK, same with Control Magic. Engineered plague was OK on Wizards (Bob, Snappy, Lab Maniac.....And would have been good against spirits from Forbidden Orchard) Teferi's Responce won a game. (made a ghost quarter just disappear ... & draw two cards) Meditate is currently floating out to the board, and may disappear. Beat White Trash.. (tough) Beat Lab Maniac Beat Forbidden Orchard/Oath Funny when they called time and I was powering through turns , and killed him on the 2nd of MY 5 turns of overtime. 
|
|
|
|
|
15
|
Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: The Wheel 5.2
|
on: February 26, 2012, 08:18:37 pm
|
|
Multiple Fact-or-Fiction just does not seem right, especially since I am contemplating IF there should be one at all. Currently I am trying out Meditate in that slot. For excellent level players I am fairly sure that Gifts is the right call.
Impulse is an extremely strong card, but it is not right for me. A deck with the full set of Mox & Crypt would use Impulse better.
If I was to add more of this style of card, Preordain is what I would go for. I just don't have the spare mana lying around, & preordain is very similar in function, and amount of cards viewed. Mostly the Impulse effect is better, and being an instant is also better. BUT. The Wheel does not have that many counters that require mana at the end of their turn. It is mostly the 2 mana compared to 1 mana cost that really confirms it though. Turn 1 Preordain, go. Is an OK turn. Obviously it aint great, but it aint bad either. And on the play a fine turn two is a wasteland and another Blue cantrip. Impulse does not fit into that.
|
|
|
|
|
16
|
Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: The Wheel 5.2
|
on: February 26, 2012, 08:14:24 pm
|
Thank you. I genuinely appreciate it. Lots of people get seriously hacked off with how and what I write....But not here. I seriously appreciate the space to noodle around and contemplate my own navel. Why this deck got moved to "Creative" is beyond me. Mind Twist & Balance are hardly "Creative". 
|
|
|
|
|
17
|
Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: The Wheel 5.2
|
on: February 26, 2012, 06:16:49 am
|
Played another tiny tournament. (5 card proxy) All 3 opponents had real black lotus. Tiny does not mean weak.  I think 4 of us ended on 2 wins and a loss. Equal first really aint a win like that. I lost the first round to the U/B 4xBob guy I butted heads with last post. The Wheel gave me the chance to win, but I did not take it. I Think He played it right. I know I did not. There really isnt an easy way to summarise long Type 1 games. He cast Ancestral Recall twice in the first game and twice in the second game. I cast Ancestral Recall twice in the first and once in the second. 7 times in 2 games! They were those sort of games. I should have waited till EOT to Hurkyls that Sphinx off his Tinker. I just didn't realise he had both the off color moxes and a Lotus, so he just hard cast it. D'oh. I thought I had the first game, and attacked a Bob into a Snapcaster, then my active library just found land and got balanced to zero cards, but I did get the Sphinx off the table, for the second time. Then He Yawgmoth'ed and it all went downhill. Jace for him worked fine, but, Jace really doesn't seem right for the wheel. I had removed Jace before the tournament. Seems like a good call. I also removed the 3rd Spell Pierce. Replacements were Meditate and Muddle the Mixture. I added a single Threads of Disloyalty and an Engineered Plague to the board. I didn't cast, or see any of them for the day, except, i think i cast Muddle. Next up was some Noble H/Fish action. There was an odd turn 4(?) where One permanent was in play, my enormous, invisible robot. Tinker does seem the signle most obviously stupid spell ever made. And the 2nd game was kinda similar. We play a 3rd where his turn 2 Thada just crushed me. Round 3 was against the shopkeep playing Oath. I went first and played a land. He played a blue mox, and i spell pierced it. He played a red mox, an F-Orchard & cast an oath of druids.... He had a particularly neat trick where he gets a big black demon that comes into play with a demonic tutor effect, which gets a timewalk, which means the Oath gets to go again, which gets the Timewalk again coz it got put back, and so on. Game 2 I made some bad play errors, but the Wheel just rolled over him. My double counter stopped his double counter so i didn't play that bad, but it so could have been a lot better. Game 3 i wastelanded & stripmined & ground him out. Seal of cleansing was good, especially the second time. Jace should not be in The Wheel. Quite possibly Gifts should not be in MY The Wheel. Not sure about Muddle & Meditate. Cards that got sideboarded out...Mind Twist, Gifts, 2xSpell pierce, Muddle, a Wasteland, a preordain, mystic tutor, hurkyls, f'ken Gifts just laughs at me. Used it as FoW Fuel, and then needed it.  The Wheel is THE hardest deck I have EVER built. So many options, so many plays, so many possible outcomes.
|
|
|
|
|
18
|
Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: The Wheel 5.2
|
on: February 10, 2012, 06:18:08 am
|
Played against a Blue/Black 4xBob + vault deck. Tier 1, strong. I won 7 , he won 9. (A more regular, or maybe just better player could have won at least another 3 of the games I lost.) Both decks are obviously just bollocks, and obviously hard to play right...But the Wheel is just HARDER. I like his deck and what he was doing with it. The extra moxen and Manacrypt do help the ridiculous explosive draws. And the fact he had no off colour spells really helped his consistency. Of the 16 games I pushed him into colour problems only the once. I was not aggressively mulliganing enough against his deck. Having an OK hand is easily enough to beat most decks, but that level of quality in both player and deck is MUCH harder than most. Jace was a complete disappointment. I used him as FoW fuel, and that was about it. There was a game where he had TWO Bobs on board, and I looked at the Jace and just wanted it to be Control Magic. I can see how in his deck Jace is the better card, but in mine I am really not so sure. I think the difference is the extra artifact mana, they allow Jace to come out faster and be active much faster. The wastelands and strip mine were still useful, but not quite as interfering as I would have hoped. Gifts didn't win any games either.  Not that it got cast much.... Balance was excellent. Mind twist was OK. Threads of Disloyalty or Engineered Plague are looking good for the Side Board....
|
|
|
|
|
19
|
Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: The Wheel 5.2
|
on: January 01, 2012, 09:18:30 pm
|
I have bitten the bullet and put in a Jace.  no more control Magic shenangigans. And I have put in gifts over Fact.  And then I went 5 vs 7 against a ridiculous Elf combo deck....  My sideboard really doesn't undertsand that deck at all. Maybe the Engineered Plagues should make a come back... Still, no one else had taken a game off him for a LONG TIME, and he had a whole bunch of proxies, so maybe I just shouldn't bother...
|
|
|
|
|
20
|
Vintage Community Discussion / Elder Dragon Highlander Forum / Re: Is EDH really a social format?
|
on: December 05, 2011, 08:32:38 am
|
|
Tinker really is just stupid as a card, being banned demonstrates EDH is taken at least mildly seriously.
Enduring Renewal seems possible, but a 3 card combo is always tricky. Splinter twin seems easier, maybe...
Playing creatures just seems a bad idea. Although Dragonstorm does seem to have legs, and I know it, but filling 100 cards with a working Dragonstorm deck seems keen
I think the prison idea might have legs. Lots of interacting, obnoxious cards.
White Wrath, geddon, catacylsm, land tax, ghostly prison, stp, path, Gideon, Elspeth ... hmmm anti artifact/enchantment or not...hmmm ... Life gain? Ivory tower/Well of life? Disk? Scroll rack? Icy Manipulator? Lots of artifact mana
Blue Stassis /Winter orb (+daze), (+Gush), (+Black Vise), mana drain, mental mistep, FOW, mana leak, remand, memory lapse, counter(xLots), cryptic command, back to basics (maybe), hhhmm
Someone has done that before I am certain. I should go research....
Necro with massed life gain seems too dumb to not think about. Pulled it off a couple of times in type 1 with reliquary tower/library of leng and Ivory tower. Zuran orb/Fastbond/crucible of Worlds is cute too.
The current "combo" I am thinking about is "combolander" from the highlander primer, Lich's mirror with 100 cards is insane.
|
|
|
|
|
25
|
Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / Re: Highlander - The Highlander Primer
|
on: December 04, 2011, 06:12:09 pm
|
|
[size=200]Combo[/size] [size=150]Index[/size] Channel/ Lich's Mirror Hermit Druid Storm Combolander
[size=150]Channel/ Lich's Mirror[/size] xantid swarm birds of paradise arbor elf noble hierarch wild cantor elves of deep shadow elvish spirit guide dimir infiltrator composite golem emrakul, the aeons torn sensei's divining top duress thoughtseize inquisition of kozilek dark ritual autumn's veil personal tutor * demonic tutor *** grim tutor * regrowth into the roil diabolic intent shred memory channel ** fabricate rhystic tutor muddle the mixture beseech the queen unmask diabolic tutor lich's mirror skyship weatherlight demonic collusion planar portal chrome mox mox diamond lotus petal chromatic star chromatic sphere prophetic prism eladamri's vineyard kaleidostone darkwater egg implements of sacrifice bloodstained mire verdant catacombs marsh flats polluted delta flooded strand misty rainforest windswept heath wooded foothills underground sea tropical island breeding pool bayou overgrown tomb city of brass gemstone mine hickory woodlot peat bog
sideboard: silence hallow rest for the weary heroes' reunion riftsweeper wall of roots eternal witness reclaim brainstorm shield sphere massacre krosan grip orim's chant nature's claim savannah
[size=150]Hermit's Breakfast[/size] 1 hermit druid 1 nomads en-kor 1 shaman en-kor 1 cephalid illusionist 1 sylvan tutor 1 worldy tutor 1 vampiric tutor 1 imperial seal 1 gamble 1 lim dul's vault 1 eladamri's call 1 fauna shaman 1 imperial recruiter 1 dimir infiltrator 1 shred memory 1 muddle the mixture 1 green sun's zenith 1 reanimate 1 shallow grave 1 animate dead 1 postmortem lunge 1 corpse dance 1 dread return 1 apprentice necromancer 1 qasali pridemage 1 cabal therapy 1 terravore 1 the mimeoplasm 1 murderous redcap 1 fatestitcher 1 phantasmagorian 1 narcomoeba 1 bridge from below 1 krosan reclamation 1 daze 1 mental misstep 1 tarnished citadel 1 city of brass 1 gemstone mine 1 bloodstained mire 1 wooded foothills 1 arid mesa 1 scalding tarn 1 marsh flats 1 windswept heath 1 flooded strand 1 misty rainforest 1 polluted delta 1 verdant catacombs 1 bayou 1 overgrown tomb 1 llanowar wastes 1 savannah 1 tundra 1 underground sea 1 darkslick shores 1 taiga 1 volcanic island 1 tropical island 1 scrubland
SB: 1 triskelion 1 stingscourger 1 rhystic tutor 1 lord of extinction 1 temple garden 1 sivvi's ruse 1 sivvi's valor 1 invigorate 1 orim's cure 1 aether vial 1 null rod 1 duress 1 inquisition of kozilek 1 thoughtseize 1 hide // seek
[size=150]Storm[/size] brainfreeze tendrils of agony empty the warrens mind’s desire yawgmoth’s will *** gitaxian probe sensei’s divining top ponder preordain brainstorm strategic planning plunge into darkness impulse night’s whisper thirst for knowledge frantic search silence abeyance gamble land grant rhystic tutor intuition ad nauseam recoup helm of awakening darkwater egg shadowblood egg chromatic sphere manamorphose chrome mox mox diamond lion’s eye diamond lotus petal black lotus **** grim monolith rite of flame dark ritual cabal ritual pyretic ritual desperate ritual seething song channel the suns polluted delta misty rainforest marsh flats scalding tarn flooded strand underground sea tundra tropical island bayou volcanic island badlands ancient tomb city of traitors sulphur vent ancient spring sandstone needle saprazzan skerry peat bog
sideboard: duress thoughtseize into the roil krosan grip pernicious deed infernal tutor ill-gotten gains xantid swarm vendilion clique dark confidant jace, the mind sculptor tarmogoyf ravenous trap tidehollow sculler firespout
[size=150]UG Combolander [/size] boreal druid noble hierarch fyndhorn elves quirion ranger llanowar elves arbor elves elves of deep shadow painter's servant priest of titania devoted druid wall of roots rofellos, llanowar emissary trinket mage vendilion clique wood elves eternal witness elvish archdruid glen elendra archmage venser, shaper savant masked admirers progenitus grindstone skullclamp * sensei's divining top ponder mystical tutor * brainstorm remand impulse muddle the mixture mana drain * sylvan library regrowth survival of the fittest ** fabricate staff of domination gifts ungiven ** natural order tezzeret the seeker chrome mox windswept heath misty rainforest scalding tarn flooded strand polluted delta wooded foothills verdant catacombs tropical island breeding pool flooded grove gaea’s cradle forest x 7 island x 2
sideboard: tormod's crypt relic of progenitus hydroblast blue elemental blast stifle natures claim chill mana short back to basics kitchen finks dosan the falling leaf sower of temptation treachery submerge indrik stomphowler
|
|
|
|
|
26
|
Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / Re: Highlander - The Highlander Primer
|
on: December 04, 2011, 06:08:48 pm
|
|
[size=200]Slow - Blue Based[/size][size=120] & A MonoRed at the End [/size] [size=150]Index[/size] UG control WUG control UG time vault UWr planeswalker control Counterburn WUG control UB time vault depths control UB time vault control Counterburn BUG tinker / oath UW Time Vault UG painter's/natural order UBG natural order/time vault URw Counterburn UGr Good Stuff Bald Eagle (URW Control) Blue-Green Control
& MonoRed Tomato Control - WoooT !
[size=150]UG control [/size] noble hierarch birds of paradise lotus cobra wall of blossoms tarmogoyf trinket mage kitchen finks trygon predator vendilion clique eternal witness oracle of mul daya obstinate baloth glen elendra archmage venser, shaper savant consecrated sphinx pact of negation sensei's divining top brittle effigy brainstorm preordain nature's claim life from the loam remand memory lapse counterspell mana drain * vedalken shackles temporal spring control magic cryptic command primal command force of will * futuresight jace, the mind sculptor chrome mox mox diamond sol ring *** misty rainforest flooded strand verdant catacombs scalding tarn wooded foothills tropical island breeding pool flooded grove yavimaya coast forest x 3 island x 4 tranquil thicket lonely sandbar treetop village tolaria west maze of ith strip mine **
sideboard: hornet sting psychic purge hurkyl's recall threads of disloyalty blue elemental blast hydroblast extract back to basics energy flux arcane laboratory tormod's crypt mindbreak trap teferi's response deglamer misdirection
WUG control
arbor elf birds of paradise noble hierarch mother of runes stoneforge mystic tarmogoyf fauna shaman lotus cobra qasali pridemage trinket mage aven mindcensor eternal witness trygon predator kitchen finks knight of the reliquary rhox war monk vendilion clique glen elendra archmage venser, shaper savant
skullclamp * sensei's divining top swords to plowshares brainstorm ancestral recall **** repeal merchant scroll * regrowth counterspell logic knot bant charm armageddon cryptic command force of will *
jace, the mind sculptor elspeth, knight-errant gideon jura
flooded strand windswept heath misty rainforest marsh flats scalding tarn verdant catacombs savannah tundra tropical island breeding pool hallowed fountain temple garden sunpetal grove glacial fortress mystic gate stirring wildwood celestial colonnade treetop village flagstones of trokair plains forest x 2 island x 2
sideboard: dissipate dismantling blow kor firewalker fact or fiction krosan grip pithing needle threads of disloyalty sower of temptation wrath of god day of judgement teferi, mage of zhalfir stifle remand negate condescend
UG time vault
arbor elf noble hierarch birds of paradise llanowar elves fyndhorn elves wall of roots sakura-tribe elder fauna shaman tarmogoyf trygon predator kitchen finks trinket mage vendilion clique eternal witness glen elendra archmage venser, shaper savant frost titan wurmcoil engine
voltaic key sensei's divining top skullclamp * ponder preordain brainstorm impulse sylvan library time vault *** mana leak remand muddle the mixture transmute artifact fabricate thirst for knowledge fact or fiction cryptic command treachery jace, the mind sculptor tezzeret the seeker chrome mox mox emerald *** windswept heath verdant catacombs wooded foothills misty rainforest polluted delta scalding tarn flooded strand tropical island breeding pool flooded grove yavimaya coast forest x 3 island x 3 wasteland karakas gaea's cradle
sideboard: kira, great glass spinner teferi, mage of zhalfir obstinate baloth tormod's crypt extract spell pierce negate krosan grip nature's claim blue elemental blast engineered explosives maze of ith control magic sower of temptation thada adel, acquisitor
UWr planeswalker control
jace beleren jace, the mind sculptor elspeth, knight-errant elspeth tirel gideon jura ajani vengeant tezzeret, the seeker
engineered explosives pithing needle sensei's divining top swords to plowshares path to exile enlightened tutor * ancestral visions brainstorm ponder preordain spell snare extract thopter foundry sword of the meek balance ** mana drain * ensnaring bridge oblivion ring dismantling blow deep analysis humility moat wrath of god day of judgement
chrome mox sol ring *** talisman of progress azorius signet mind stone
flooded strand polluted delta scalding tarn misty rainforest arid mesa marsh flats tundra plateau volcanic island hallowed fountain glacial fortress celestial colonnade island x 4 plains x 3 snow-covered island snow-covered plains x 2 karakas maze of ith
sideboard: the tabernacle at pendrell vale rolling earthquake baneslayer angel aven mindcensor aura of silence seal of cleansing circle of protection: red leyline of sanctity sphere of law tormod's crypt relic of progenitus sacred ground wasteland luminarch ascension glen elendra archmage
Counterburn
grim lavamancer aven mindcensor trinket mage vendilion clique swans of bryn argoll engineered explosives black vise sensei's divining top brainstorm preordain mystical tutor ** chain lightning lightning bolt isochron scepter chain of plasma shrapnel blast smash to smithereens lighning helix price of progress * negate miscalculation daze counterspell muddle the mixture vedalken shackles psionic blast char rhystic lightning pulse of the forge staggershock sulfuric vortex volcanic fallout prohibit fact or fiction force of will * fireblast ajani vengeant mox sapphire *** wooded foothills arid mesa flooded strand polluted delta scalding tarn volcanic island steam vents tundra plateau island x 5 mountain x 5 wasteland mishra's factory mutavault
sideboard: shatterstorm sulfurous blast ratchet bomb threads of disloyalty extract shattering spree trickbind control magic circle of protection: red flametongue kavu energy flux tormod's crypt leyline of punishment boseiju, who shelters all pithing needle
WUG control
noble hierarch birds of paradise llanowar elves fyndhorn elves fauna shaman lotus cobra tarmogoyf qasali pridemage stoneforge mystic trinket mage trygon predator eternal witness kitchen finks knight of the reliquary troll ascetic vendilion clique glen elendra archmage venser, shaper savant baneslayer angel sensei’s divining top swords to plowshares brainstorm repeal umezawa’s jitte * sylvan library remand mana leak counterspell mana drain * sword of fire and ice oblivion ring armageddon fact or fiction gifts ungiven ** cryptic command jace, the mind sculptor elspeth, knight-errant sol ring *** flooded strand polluted delta scalding tarn windswept heath misty rainforest verdant catacombs tundra savannah breeding pool temple garden hallowed fountain flooded grove mystic gate adarkar wastes yavimaya coast brushland stirring wildwood karakas forest island x 3 plains
sideboard: treachery sower of temptation aven mindecensor rhox war monk loxodon hierarch kor firewalker hydroblast extract gaea’s blessing relic of progenitus pithing needle krosan grip great sable stag choke tariff
UB time vault depths control
dark confidant vampire hexmage trinket mage vendilion clique glen elendra archmage
engineered explosives expedition map sensai's divining top voltaic key preordain ponder brainstorm force spike spell snare duress thoughtseize inquisition of kozilek condescend time vault *** diabolic edict shred memory demonic tutor *** impulse remand mana leak counterspell muddle the mixture transmute artifact fabricate thirst for knowledge cryptic command misdirection force of will * jace, the mind sculptor tezzeret, the seeker chrome mox bloodstained mire verdant catacombs marsh flats polluted delta flooded strand scalding tarn misty rainforest underground sea watery grave island x 2 swamp x 2 seat of the synod vault of whispers river of tears darkslick shores sunken ruins wasteland dark depths tolaria west urborg, tomb of yawgmoth academy ruins karakas
sideboard: extract hymn to tourach fact or fiction teferi, mage of zhalfir spell pierce mesmeric fiend ancestral visions treachery threads of disloyalty innocent blood doom blade damnation thada adel, acquisitor dread of night planar void
UB time vault control
dark confidant trinket mage vendilion clique venser, shaper savant sower of temptation teferi, mage of zhalfir engineered explosives sensei’s divining top voltaic key time vault *** duress thoughtseize inquisition of kozilek hymn to tourach vampiric tutor *** ponder preordain brainstorm repeal mental misstep force spike diabolic edict bitterblossom into the roil impulse daze miscalculation mana leak remand muddle the mixture counterspell fabricate snuff out cryptic command force of will * jace, the mind sculptor tezzeret, the seeker chrome mox misty rainforest scalding tarn flooded strand marsh flats verdant catacombs bloodstained mire underground sea watery grave darkslick shores drowned catacomb sunken ruins island x 6 swamp x 2 academy ruins karakas wasteland
sideboard vampire nighthawk hydroblast dismember spellskite back to basics thada adel, acquisitor spell pierce agony warp chainer’s edict go for the throat blue elemental blast steel sabotage thirst for knowledge faerie macabre flusterstorm
Counterburn
grim lavamancer aven mindcensor trinket mage vendilion clique swans of bryn argoll engineered explosives black vise sensei's divining top brainstorm preordain mystical tutor ** chain lightning lightning bolt isochron scepter chain of plasma shrapnel blast smash to smithereens lighning helix price of progress * negate miscalculation daze counterspell muddle the mixture vedalken shackles psionic blast char rhystic lightning pulse of the forge staggershock sulfuric vortex volcanic fallout prohibit fact or fiction force of will * fireblast
ajani vengeant
mox sapphire ***
wooded foothills arid mesa flooded strand polluted delta scalding tarn volcanic island steam vents tundra plateau island x 5 mountain x 5 wasteland mishra's factory mutavault
sideboard: shatterstorm sulfurous blast ratchet bomb threads of disloyalty extract shattering spree hurkyl's recall control magic circle of protection: red flametongue kavu energy flux tormod's crypt everlasting torment boseiju, who shelters all pithing needle
BUG tinker / oath
inkwell leviathan blightsteel colossus emrakul, the aeons torn tinker **** oath of druids * show and tell sensei’s divining top duress thoughtseize inquisition of kozilek preordain ponder brainstorm see beyond personal tutor * stifle spell pierce force spike mental misstep condescend daze counterspell remand muddle the mixture mana leak dragon breath regrowth impulse rhystic tutor compulsive research thirst for knowledge frantic search cryptic command force of will * misdirection jace, the mind sculptor chrome mox lotus petal polluted delta misty rainforest verdant catacombs flooded strand scalding tarn underground sea tropical island watery grave breeding pool seat of the synod island x 6 forest forbidden orchard mishra’s factory inkmoth nexus blinkmoth nexus wasteland
sideboard: iona shield of emeria sphinx of the steel wind tormod's crypt planar void dread of night disfigure doom blade nature's claim energy flux null rod hurkyl's recall chill spellskite extract pithing needle
UW Time Vault
Venser, Shaper Savant Glen Elendra Archmage Vendilion Clique Trinket Mage Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir Sower of Temptation Gideon Jura Jace, the Mind Sculptor Tezzeret the Seeker Vedalken Shackles Path to Exile Swords to Plowshares Mana Leak Counterspell Condescend Remand Engineered Explosives Cryptic Command Muddle the Mixture Treachery Oblivion Ring Sensei's Divining Top Ancestral Visions Ponder Reshape Transmute Artifact Fact or Fiction Brainstorm Preordain Fabricate Thirst for Knowledge Enlightened Tutor * Time Vault *** Voltaic Key Grim Monolith Chrome Mox Azorius Signet Sol Ring *** Wasteland Mystic Gate Hallowed Fountain Tundra Flooded Strand Scalding Tarn Misty Rainforest Polluted Delta Windswept Heath Arid Mesa Karakas Ancient Den Seat of the Synod Tolaria West Academy Ruins Plains Island x6
Sideboard: Baneslayer Angel Day of Judgment Wrath of God Faith's Fetters Condemn Kitchen Finks Dispel Spell Pierce Shadow of Doubt Aven Mindscensor Extract Bribery Thada Adel, Acquisitor Relic of Progenitus Aura of Silence
UG painter's/natural order
arbor elf llanowar elves fyndhorn elves noble hierarch birds of paradise sakura tribe elder devoted druid wall of roots rofellos, llanowar emissary painter's servant wood elves trinket mage kitchen finks eternal witness vendilion clique glen elendra archmage masked admirers venser, shaper savant indrik stomphowler progenitus
grindstone relic of progenitus sensei's divining top skullclamp * brainstorm ponder mystical tutor * impulse regrowth remand survival of the fittest ** sylvan library fabricate muddle the mixture gifts ungiven ** jace, the mind sculptor natural order force of will * tezzeret the seeker
chrome mox
windswept heath verdant catacombs wooded foothills misty rainforest polluted delta scalding tarn flooded strand tropical island breeding pool flooded grove gaea's cradle dryad arbor forest x 6 island x 2
sideboard: maze of ith mindbreak trap krosan grip submerge stifle dosan the falling leaf back to basics nature's claim control magic tormod's crypt sower of temptation treachery hydroblast blue elemental blast chill
UBG natural order/time vault
llanowar elves elves of deep shadow birds of paradise fyndhorn elves noble hierarch mesmeric fiend vendilion clique trinket mage phantom nishoba progenitus
dispel voltaic key spell pierce divert personal tutor * mystical tutor * ponder duress thoughtseize sensei's divining top brainstorm diabolic intent remand pentad prism muddle the mixture transmute artifact time vault *** reshape daze arcane denial lim-dul's vault * fabricate natural order clutch of the undercity misdirection tezzeret the seeker
chrome mox mox diamond mana vault * grim monolith
verdant catacombs misty rainforest flooded strand polluted delta wooded foothills windswept heath scalding tarn marsh flats tropical island underground sea bayou breeding pool watery grave seat of the synod tree of tales academy ruins ancient tomb hickory woodlot saprazzan skerry dryad arbor
sideboard: mishra's factory kraken hatchling xantid swarm gigadrowse extract wall of roots gaea's blessing mana leak pygmy hippo tarmogoyf hurkyl's recall thorn of amethyst sphere of resistance trinisphere terastodon
URw Counterburn
Counterspell Fact or fiction Lightning Bolt Prohibit Vendillion Clique Vedalken Shackels Incinerate Fire//Ice Remand Sensei's Divining Top Smash to Smithereens Force of Will* Lightning Helix Engineered Explosives Volcanic Fallout Char Price of Progress* Grim Lavamancer Standstill Fireblast Pulse of the Forge Shrapnel Blast Rystic Lightning Isochron Scepter Brainstorm Daze Flames of the Blood Hand Psionic Blast Ajani Vengeant Miscalculation Keldon Marauders Rift Bolt Circle of Protection: Red Sulfuric Vortex Sol Ring*** Trinket Mage Muddle the Mixture Mystical Tutor Tundra Plateau 5 Island 4 Mountain Volcanic Island Steam Vents Arid Mesa Wooded Foothills Flooded Strand Polluted Delta Scalding Tarn Wasteland Mishra's Factory Mutavault
SB Threads of Disloyalty Anarchy Extract Shattering Spree Flametounge Kavu Ensnaring Bridge Aegis of Honour Delusions of Mediocricty Warmth Ank of Mishra Tormods Crypt Energy Flux Everlasting Torment Boseiju, Who Shelters All Pithing Needle
UGr Good Stuff
Scalding Tarn Chandra Nalaar Fire//Ice Stomping Ground Noble Hierarch Verdant Catacombs Yavamaya Coast Spellbreaker Behemoth Blasterderm Forest Vendilion Clique Tarmogoyf Venser, Shaper Savant Snow Covered Forest Kitchen Finks Umezawa's Jitte Arc-Slogger City of Traitors Misty Rainforest Ant Queen Skullclamp* Flooded Grove Wickerbough Elder Mana Leak Trygon Predator Contested Cliffs Lotus Cobra Rampaging Baloths Windswept Heath Memory Lapse Blood Tender Garruk Wildspeaker Taiga Tropical Island Grim Lavamancer Fire-Lit Thicket Fyndhorn Elves Lorescale Coatl Sol Ring*** Miscalculation Condescend Trinket Mage Oona, Queen of the Fae Repeal Steam Vents Island Into the Roil Llanowar Elves Volcanic Island Mana Crypt** Wooded Foothills Chameleon Colossus Plaxmanta Breeding Pool Spell Pierce Plow Under Snow-Covered Island Birds of Paradise Sword of Fire and Ice Flooded Strand Remand Brainstorm
SB Lightning Bolt Incinerate Primal Command Old Man of the Sea Sower of Temptation Flametounge Kavu Great Sable Stag Sulphur Elemental Bribery Treachery Boil Flashfires Extract Scrabbling Claws Relic of Progenitus
Bald Eagle (URW Control)
Swords to Plowshares Ancestral Recall**** Lightning Bolt Brainstorm Spell Snare Sensei's Divining Top Ancestral Visions Engineered Expolsives Stifle Lightning Helix Mana Leak Counterspell Muddle the Mixture Remand Fire//Ice Isochron Scepter Condecsend Mana Drain* Vedalken Shackles Absorb Forbid Electrolize Thirst for Knowledge Jace Beleren Wrath of God Fact or Fiction Cryptic Command Ajani Vengeant Moat Treachery Force of Will* Research//Development Repeal Vendilion Clique Venser, Shaper Savant Baneslayer Angel 6 Island Plains Polluted Delta Flooded Strant Plateau Mishra's Factory Volcanic Island Library of Alexandria* Karakas Dust Bowl Mystic Gate Sacred Foundry Tundra Hallowed Fountain Scalding Tarn Arid Mesa Steam Vents Cascade Bluffs Reflecting Pool
SB Descendant of Kiyomaro Kitchen Finks Magus of the Tabernacle Annul Wing Shards Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir Circle of Protection: Red Day of Judgement Firespout Plumveil Null Rod Damping Matrix Shattering Spree Tormods Crypt Relic of Progenitus
Blue-Green Control
Scute Mob Tezzeret the Seeker Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir Venser, Shaper Savant Vendilion Clique Lorescale Coatl Trygon Predator Tarmogoyf Eternal Witness Trinket Mage Painter’s Servant Wall of Roots Mana Drain * Force of Will * Arcane Denial Counterspell Remand Memory Lapse Condescend Mana Leak Spell Snare Cryptic Command Ancestral Recall **** Sylvan Library Brainstorm Ponder Thirst for Knowledge Fact or Fiction Sensei’s Divining Top Back to Basics Grindstone Vedalken Shackles Engineered Explosives Repeal Regrowth Chrome Mox Library of Alexandria * Academy Ruins Seat of the Synod Misty Rainforest Scalding Tarn Polluted Delta Flooded Strand Tropical Island Breeding Pool Yavimaya Coast Island x 10 Forest x 4
Sideboard: Old Man of the Sea Sower of Temptation Treachery Ivory Tower Kitchen Finks Wall of Blossoms Blue Elemental Blast Hydroblast Pithing Needle Krosan Grip Phyrexian Furnace Scrabbling Claws Tormod’s Crypt Extract Stifle
[size=200]Mono Red Tomato Control [/size] gorilla shaman orcish librarian iron myr goblin ruinblaster fulminator mage solemn simulacrum ravenous baboons avalanche riders flametongue kavu arc-slogger siege-gang commander shattering spree seal of fire firebolt burst lightning chain lightning lightning bolt fireball demonfire shrapnel blast magma jet incinerate burning wish ensnaring bridge sculpting steel stone rain molten rain pillage pulse of the forge icy manipulator mana vault * sol ring *** mind stone mouth of ronom crystal vein dust bowl wasteland strip mine ** rishadan port mutavault mishra's factory blinkmoth nexus ghitu encampment forgotten cave great furnace city of traitors barbarian ring library of alexandria * sandstone needle snow-covered mountain x 11
sideboard: maze of ith pyroblast red elemental blast pyroclasm scald curse of marit lage culling scales cryoclasm shatterstorm pulverise omen of fire detritivore boil boiling seas anarchy
|
|
|
|
|
27
|
Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / Re: Highlander - The Highlander Primer
|
on: December 04, 2011, 06:07:19 pm
|
|
[size=200]Mono-Blue Control [/size] [size=150]Index [/size] Mono-Blue Control x 2 T.inker x 2 T.inker / time vault T.inker Ur t.inker / time vault x2
[size=150]Mono-Blue Control [/size] Ancestral Vision Echoing Truth Mana Drain * Disrupting Shoal Remove Soul Guile Venser, Shaper Savant Solemn Simulacrum Cryptic Command Commandeer Mulldrifter Remand Serum Visions Glen Elendra Archmage Razormane Masticore Force of Will * Memory Lapse Threads of Disloyalty Vendilion Clique Ponder Fact or Fiction Sleight of Hand Counterspell Boomerang Mana Leak Sower of Temptation Riftwing Cloudskate Meloku the Clouded Mirror Brainstorm Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir Pact of Negation Chain of Vapor Vedalken Shackles Wipe Away Sol Ring *** Minamo, School at Waters Edge Mutavault Mishra's Factory Calciform Pools Dreadship Reef Island x 19
Sideboard: Chalice of the Void Back to Basics Mindbreak Trap Summoner's Bane Shadow of Doubt Jace Beleren Memnarch Stifle Daze Cursecatcher Pithing Needle Hurkyl's Recall Island Forest x 2
[size=150]Mono-Blue Control [/size] Stifle Force of Will * Mana Drain * Jace, the Mind Sculptor Spell Pierce Jace's Ingenuity Into the Roil Pact of Negation Thirst for Knowledge Ponder Repeal Kira, Great Glass-Spinner Vendilion Clique Force Spike Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir Fact or Fiction Serum Visions Brainstorm Mana Leak Treachery Impulse Memory Lapse Glen Elendra Archmage Jace Beleren Counterspell Sleight of Hand Preordain Shadow of Doubt Condescend Venser, Shaper Savant Cryptic Command Spell Snare Ancestral Visions Back to Basics Remand Vedalken Shackles Sol Ring *** Island x16 Mutavault Mishra's Factory Misty Rainforest Karakas Scalding Tarn Strip Mine ** Wasteland
Sideboard: Powder Keg Bribery Extract Energy Flux Daze Hurkyl's Recall Mindbreak Trap Thada Adel, Acquisitor Sower of Temptation Razormane Masticore Blue Elemental Blast Hydroblast Chill Threads of Disloyalty Spellstutter Sprite
[size=150]T.inker [/size] trinket mage vendilion clique glen elendra archmage sower of temptation venser, shaper savant teferi, mage of zhalfir wurmcoil engine inkwell leviathan sphinx of the steel wind engineered explosives sensei's divining top pithing needle preordain ponder brainstorm mystical tutor ** stifle force spike repeal remand daze miscalculation mana leak impulse counterspell vedalken shackles back to basics thirst for knowledge tinker **** fact or fiction cryptic command force of will * misdirection jace, the mind sculptor chrome mox mox diamond misty rainforest flooded strand polluted delta scalding tarn island x 15 seat of the synod vault of whispers academy ruins karakas wasteland
sideboard: chill gush extract æther adept man-o’-war hydroblast blue elemental blast dispel spell pearce tormod’s crypt thada adel, acquisitor lat nam’s legacy threads of disloyalty mindlock orb submerge
[size=150]T.inker [/size] trinket mage vendilion clique glen elendra archmage sower of temptation venser, shaper savant wurmcoil engine inkwell leviathan sphinx of the steel wind engineered explosives sensei's divining top pithing needle preordain ponder brainstorm mystical tutor ** stifle force spike repeal remand daze miscalculation mana leak impulse counterspell vedalken shackles back to basics thirst for knowledge tinker **** fact or fiction cryptic command force of will * misdirection treachery jace, the mind sculptor chrome mox mox diamond misty rainforest flooded strand polluted delta scalding tarn island x 16 seat of the synod ancient den vault of whispers wasteland
sideboard: chill gush extract æther adept man-o’-war contagion engine hydroblast blue elemental blast tormod’s crypt thada adel, acquisitor elixir of immortality teferi, mage of zhalfir lat nam’s legacy threads of disloyalty submerge
[size=150]T.inker / time vault [/size] trinket mage vendilion clique glen elendra archmage venser, shaper savant sower of temptation inkwell leviathan sphinx of the steel wind engineered explosives voltaic key sensei's divining top ancestral visions force spike spell pierce spell snare brainstorm preordain time vault *** condescend mana leak remand impulse miscalculation muddle the mixture counterspell transmute artifact reshape vedalken shackles fabricate thirst for knowledge tinker **** fact or fiction jace, the mind sculptor cryptic command misdirection tezzeret, the seeker mox diamond chrome mox lotus petal grim monolith wasteland scalding tarn flooded strand misty rainforest volcanic island steam vents seat of the synod great furnace academy ruins tolaria west mishra's factory karakas island x 9
sideboard: sundering titan control magic repeal rolling earthquake earthquake pyroclasm firespout threads of disloyalty back to basics blood moon magus of the moon fire//ice extract tormod's crypt dispel
[size=150]T.inker [/size] trinket mage vendilion clique glen elendra archmage sower of temptation venser, shaper savant meloku, the clouded mirror teferi, mage of zhalfir sphinx of the steel wind inkwell leviathan sensei’s divining top spell snare stifle brainstorm personal tutor * mystical tutor * condescend repeal mana leak impulse remand daze counterspell vedalken shackles back to basics tinker **** thirst for knowledge fact or fiction jace, the mind sculptor cryptic command misdirection force of will * chrome mox everflowing chalice mind stone scalding tarn polluted delta misty rainforest flooded strand seat of the synod island x 21
sideboard: tormod’s crypt hydroblast spell pierce divert dispel hurkyl’s recall chill echoing truth propaganda thada adel, acquisitor sakashima the impostor treachery oona, queen of the fae darksteel colossus + a card
[size=150]Ur t.inker / time vault [/size] trinket mage vendilion clique old man of the sea glen elendra archmage venser, shaper savant sower of temptation sphinx of the steel wind blightsteel colossus engineered explosives voltaic key sensei's divining top ancestral visions force spike spell pierce spell snare brainstorm preordain time vault *** condescend mana leak remand impulse daze muddle the mixture counterspell transmute artifact reshape vedalken shackles fabricate thirst for knowledge tinker **** fact or fiction cryptic command misdirection jace, the mind sculptor tezzeret, the seeker mox diamond chrome mox grim monolith scalding tarn flooded strand misty rainforest polluted delta volcanic island steam vents island x 9 seat of the synod great furnace academy ruins tolaria west wasteland karakas
sideboard: shattering spree control magic rolling earthquake divert pyroclasm blood moon threads of disloyalty back to basics pithing needle sundering titan red elemental blast rack and ruin extract tormod's crypt dispel
[size=150]Ur t.inker / time vault [/size] trinket mage vendilion clique glen elendra archmage venser, shaper savant sower of temptation inkwell leviathan voltaic key sensei's divining top ancestral vision force spike spell snare brainstorm ponder preordain time vault *** condescend mana leak remand impulse daze negate miscalculation muddle the mixture counterspell transmute artifact vedalken shackles fabricate thirst for knowledge tinker **** blood moon fact or fiction cryptic command control magic treachery jace, the mind sculptor tezzeret, the seeker chrome mox grim monolith scalding tarn flooded strand misty rainforest polluted delta volcanic island steam vents cascade bluffs shivan reef island x 6 mountain x 2 seat of the synod academy ruins tolaria west mishra’s factory
sideboard: grindstone painter’s servant scroll rack magus of the moon threads of disloyalty electrolyse flashfreeze dissipate pyroblast anarchy earthquake extract firespout pyroclasm goblin welder
|
|
|
|
|
28
|
Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / Re: Highlander - The Highlander Primer
|
on: December 04, 2011, 06:05:44 pm
|
|
[size=200]Slow - Brown[/size]
[size=150]Index[/size] Stax Stax Mud Mud Mud Mud Mud Mud
[size=150]Stax [/size] goblin welder painter's servant phyrexian revoker metalworker trinket mage treasure mage lodestone golem precursor golem kuldotha forgemaster inkwell leviathan sundering titan engineered explosives chalice of the void grindstone sensei's divining top cursed scroll scroll rack pithing needle voltaic key expedition map crop rotation sphere of resistance sylvan scrying transmute artifact reshape tangle wire trinisphere ensnaring bridge staff of domination fabricate tinker **** smokestack mindslaver tezzeret, the seeker mox diamond mox opal grim monolith thran dynamo scalding tarn volcanic island tropical island ancient den seat of the synod great furnace vault of whispers tree of tales darksteel citadel wasteland dust bowl rishadan port city of traitors city of brass karakas minamo, school at water's edge deserted temple academy ruins crystal vein ancient tomb tolarian academy ** mishra's workshop *
sideboard: platinum emperion thopter foundry sword of the meek all is dust thorn of amethyst defense grid tormod’s crypt bojuka bog wurmcoil engine sphinx of the steel wind contagion engine ethersworn canonist kozilek, butcher of truth chill masticore
[size=150]STAX [/size] goblin welder trinket mage phyrexian metamorph duplicant steel hellkite wurmcoil engine myr battlesphere sundering titan kozilek, butcher of truth jin-gitaxias, core augur emrakul, the aeons torn sensei's divining top expedition map crop rotation winter orb trinisphere sculpting steel semblance anvil thirst for knowledge citanul flute thoughtcast mindslaver myr incubator spine of ish sah all is dust tezzeret, agent of bolas tezzeret the seeker mox opal mox diamond everflowing chalice mana vault * sol ring *** grim monolith coalition relic worn powerstone thran dynamo gilded lotus darksteel citadel seat of the synod ancient den great furnace tree of tales vault of whispers ancient tomb city of traitors glimmervoid gemstone mine petrified field saprazzan skerry eye of ugin eldrazi temple tolarian academy ** mishra's workshop * minamo, school at water's edge deserted temple academy ruins tectonic edge dust bowl wasteland
sideboard: war report damping matrix pithing needle molten-tail masticore razormane masticore triskelion platinum emperion relic of progenitus tormod's crypt ethersworn canonist chalice of the void brittle effigy shimmer myr defense grid ratchet bomb
[size=150]MUD [/size] trinket mage vendilion clique old man of the sea venser, shaper savant sower of temptation sphinx of the steel wind blightsteel colossus engineered explosives voltaic key sensei's divining top ancestral visions force spike spell pierce mental misstep spell snare brainstorm preordain time vault *** condescend mana leak remand impulse daze muddle the mixture counterspell transmute artifact reshape vedalken shackles fabricate thirst for knowledge tinker **** fact or fiction cryptic command misdirection jace, the mind sculptor tezzeret, the seeker mox diamond chrome mox grim monolith scalding tarn flooded strand misty rainforest polluted delta volcanic island steam vents island x 9 seat of the synod great furnace academy ruins tolaria west wasteland karakas
sideboard: shattering spree control magic rolling earthquake divert pyroclasm blood moon threads of disloyalty back to basics pithing needle sundering titan glen elendra archmage rack and ruin extract tormod's crypt dispel
[size=150]MUD [/size] phyrexian revoker metalworker treasure mage lodestone golem juggernaut master transmuter molten-tail masticore precursor golem karn, silver golem duplicant wurmcoil engine steel hellkite myr battlesphere chalice of the void pithing needle thoughtseize inquisition of kozilek diabolic edict smother doom blade go for the throat transmute artifact sword of fire and ice tangle wire trinisphere fabricate sculpting steel mishra’s helix jace, the mind sculptor tezzeret, agent of bolas tezzeret the seeker mox diamond mana vault * mana crypt ** sol ring *** dimir signet grim monolith polluted delta flooded strand scalding tarn misty rainforest underground sea watery grave sunken ruins island x 2 snow-covered island seat of the synod vault of whispers ancient tomb city of traitors crystal vein mishra’s workshop * academy ruins deserted temple mishra’s factory inkmoth nexus blinkmoth nexus wasteland dust bowl
sideboard: defense grid the tabernacle at pendrell vale powder keg tumble magnet staff of domination razormane masticore triskelion contagion engine ratchet bomb thorn of amethyst sphere of resistance tormod’s crypt relic of progenitus extract duress
[size=150]MUD [/size] phyrexian revoker metalworker trinket mage treasure mage master of etherium lodestone golem juggernaut molten-tail masticore precursor golem karn, silver golem duplicant wurmcoil engine steel hellkite myr battlesphere pithing needle thoughtseize inquisition of kozilek doom blade go for the throat diabolic edict umezawa’s jitte * sword of fire and ice tangle wire trinisphere thirst for knowledge candelabra of tawnos mishra’s helix jace, the mind sculptor tezzeret, agent of bolas tezzeret the seeker mox diamond mana crypt ** sol ring *** talisman of dominance dimir signet polluted delta flooded strand scalding tarn misty rainforest underground sea watery grave darkslick shores island x 3 seat of the synod vault of whispers darksteel citadel ancient tomb city of traitors mishra’s workshop * academy ruins deserted temple mishra’s factory mutavault inkmoth nexus blinkmoth nexus dust bowl wasteland
sideboard: extract duress relic of progenitus contagion engine ratchet bomb mortarpod thorn of amethyst sphere of resistance tumble magnet peace strider defense grid perilous myr tormod’s crypt chalice of the void tectonic edge
[size=150]Mud [/size] phyrexian revoker metalworker trinket mage treasure mage master of etherium lodestone golem juggernaut molten-tail masticore precursor golem karn, silver golem duplicant wurmcoil engine steel hellkite myr battlesphere pithing needle thoughtseize inquisition of kozilek doom blade go for the throat diabolic edict umezawa’s jitte * sword of feast and famine sword of fire and ice tangle wire trinisphere thirst for knowledge mishra’s helix jace, the mind sculptor tezzeret, agent of bolas tezzeret the seeker mox diamond mana crypt ** sol ring *** talisman of dominance dimir signet polluted delta bloodstained mire flooded strand scalding tarn misty rainforest underground sea watery grave darkslick shores sunken ruins island x 3 swamp seat of the synod vault of whispers darksteel citadel ancient tomb city of traitors mishra’s workshop * academy ruins mishra’s factory mutavault inkmoth nexus blinkmoth nexus wasteland
sideboard: extract duress relic of progenitus mindslaver contagion engine ratchet bomb thorn of amethyst suppression field britte effigy sphere of resistance tumble magnet perilous myr tormod’s crypt chalice of the void tectonic edge
[size=150]MUD [/size] phyrexian revoker metalworker trinket mage treasure mage master of etherium phyrexian metamorph moltentail masticore lodestone golem precursor golem wurmcoil engine duplicant steel hellkite karn, silver golem myr battlesphere pithing needle thoughtseize inquisition of kozilek doom blade go for the throat tangle wire trinisphere umezawa's jitte * sword of fire and ice sword of war and peace batterskull mishra's helix jace the mind scultpor tezzeret agent of bolas tezzeret the seeker mox diamond mana crypt * sol ring *** talisman of dominance dimir signet grim monolith scalding tarn flooded strand polluted delta misty rainforest underground sea watery grave darkslick shores underground river island x 3 vault of whispers seat of synod ancient tomb city of traitors mishra's workshop * mutavault mishra's factory inkmoth nexus blinkmoth nexus deserted temple academy ruins wasteland dust bowl tectonic edge
sideboard: moltensteel dragon silent arbiter peace strider tumble magnet perilous myr spellskite defence grid thorn of amethyst chalice of the void tormod's crypt relic of progenitus sphere of resistance duress extract diabolic edict
|
|
|
|
|
29
|
Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / Re: Highlander - The Highlander Primer
|
on: December 04, 2011, 06:02:34 pm
|
|
Fast Creatures No-White Index RBG aggro RUG sea stompy GU stompy RG Aggro Sea Stompy GU aggro Burn Red Deck Wins
RBG aggro tattermunge maniac skyshroud elite kird ape wild nacatl vampire lacerator carnophage goblin guide figure of destiny jungle lion grim lavamancer dark confidant mesmeric fiend kiln fiend tarmogoyf tin-street hooligan putrid leech burning-tree shaman boggart ram-gang skullclamp * cursed scroll burst lightning chain lightning lightning bolt rancor thoughtseize inquisition of kozilek mind twist ** umezawa's jitte * incinerate smash to smithereens diabolic edict hymn to tourach colossal might magma jet rift bolt char maelstrom pulse sulfuric vortex mox jet *** windswept heath arid mesa bloodstained mire verdant catacombs scalding tarn wooded foothills misty rainforest marsh flats bayou taiga badlands plateau stomping ground overgrown tomb blood crypt forest mountain swamp x 2 wasteland barbarian ring
sideboard: path to exile anathemancer krosan grip ancient grudge nature's claim red elemental blast pyroblast duress deathmark searing blaze magus of the moon blood moon faerie macabre beckon apparition hide // seek
RUG sea stompy birds of paradise noble hierarch llanowar elves fyndhorn elves grim lavamancer lotus cobra tarmogoyf looter il-kor trinket mage sea drake serendib efreet vendilion clique trygon predator lorescale coatl troll ascetic molten-tail masticore flametongue kavu venser, shaper savant thrun, the last troll sphinx of lost truths steel hellkite wurmcoil engine lightning bolt chain lightning spell pierce brainstorm rancor fire // ice umezawa’s jitte * incinerate miscalculation memory lapse mana drain * sword of fire and ice sword of feast and famine garruk wildspeaker jace, the mind sculptor mana crypt ** sol ring ***
wooded foothills misty rainforest scalding tarn windswept heath flooded strand taiga tropical island volcanic island stomping ground breeding pool steam vents fire-lit thicket flooded grove yavimaya coast city of brass tree of tales seat of the synod island forest snow-covered forest city of traitors treetop village
sideboard: carpet of flowers vexing shusher sulfur elemental basilisk collar old man of the sea phantom centaur anarchy nature’s claim nantuko vigilante wickerbough elder gilded drake bribery treachery extract hurkyl’s recall
GU stompy llanowar elves fyndhorn elves birds of paradise noble hierarch sakura-tribe elder tarmogoyf trinket mage trygon predator esperzoa serendib efreet vendilion clique old man of the sea kitchen finks eternal witness troll ascetic thrun, the last troll venser, shaper savant sower of temptation engineered explosives sensei's divining top rancor green sun's zenith brainstorm preordain ponder force spike condescend mana leak remand counterspell umezawa's jitte * sword of fire and ice vedalken shackles krosan grip cryptic command misdirection jace, the mind sculptor mox emerald *** mox sapphire *** chrome mox misty rainforest polluted delta scalding tarn flooded strand tropical island breeding pool yavimaya coast flooded grove island x 5 forest x 2 tree of tales seat of the synod ancient tomb karakas wasteland
sideboard: relic of progenitus extract rebuild teferi, mage of zhalfir black vise hydroblast blue elemental blast treachery phyrexian revoker treasure mage rampaging baloths **rancor calcite snapper guttural response wurmcoil engine
RG Aggro Figure of Destiny Goblin Guide Grim Lavamancer Kird Ape Jungle Lion Mogg Fanatic Skyshroud Elite Tattermunge Maniac Wild Nacatl Hellspark Elemental Keldon Marauders Scab-Clan Mauler Stigma Lasher Tarmogoyf Tin Street Hooligan Boggart Ram Gang Burning Tree Shaman Countryside Crusher Vithian Renegades Giant Solifuge Burst Lightning Chain Lightning Lava Spike Lighning Bolt Rancor Rift Bolt Seal of Fire Skullclamp* Tarfire Ankh of Mishra Fire Ambush Incinerate Magma Jet Price of Progress* Umezawa's Jitte* Volcanic Hammer Char Flames of the Blood Hand Arid Mesa Wooded Foothills Windswept Heath Treetop Village Mishra's Factory Wasteland Strip Mine** Stomping Ground Plateau Taiga 8 Mountain 4 Forest
SB Kitchen Finks Relic of Progenitus Red Elemental Blast Pyroblast Winter Orb Tangle Wire Artifact Mutation Ancient Grudge Viridian Zealot Krosan Grip Seal of Primordium Ignite Disorder Disorder Magus of the Moon Blood Moon
Sea Stompy Plaxmanta Flooded Grove Brainstorm Misty Rainforest Tezzeret the Seeker Trygon Predator Yavimaya Coast Into the Roil Chameleon Colossus Skullclamp Mana Crypt Fire // Ice Mana Leak Arc-Slogger Lorescale Coatl Fire-Lit Thicket Tropical Island Remand Vines of Vastwood Windswept Heath Umezawa's Jitte * Steam Vents Blastoderm Treetop Village Wickerbough Elder Noble Hierarch Venser, Shaper Savant Sol Ring Volcanic Island Stomping Ground Repeal Kitchen Finks Verdant Catacombs Garruk Wildspeaker Forest Tarmogoyf Island Lotus Cobra Breeding Pool Trinket Mage Contested Cliffs Rampaging Baloths Birds of Paradise Snow-Covered Island Memory Lapse Sword of Fire and Ice Terra Stomper Grim Lavamancer Vendilion Clique Scalding Tarn Spell Pierce Spellbreaker Behemoth Fyndhorn Elves Llanowar Elves Bloom Tender Miscalculation Condescend Wooded Foothills Plow Under Taiga Ant Queen
Sideboard: Lightning Bolt Incinerate Old Man of the Sea Sower of Temptation Flametongue Kavu Great Sable Stag Summoning Trap Flashfires Eldrazi Monument Extract Bribery Seal of Primordium Scrabbling Claws Relic of Progenitus Phyrexian Furnace
GU aggro llanowar elves fyndhorn elves arbor elf noble hierarch birds of paradise cosi’s trickster spellstutter sprite lotus cobra fauna shaman scavenging ooze vinelasher kudzu tarmogoyf viridian zealot trinket mage vendilion clique trygon predator edric, spymaster of trest eternal witness phyrexian metamorph vengevine sower of temptation venser, shaper savant acidic slime sensei’s divining top skullclamp * ancestral recall **** stifle brainstorm mental misstep force spike green sun’s zenith umezawa’s jitte * daze mana leak vedalken shackles sword of fire and ice sword of feast and famine force of will * chrome mox misty rainforest flooded strand scalding tarn windswept heath wooded foothills verdant catacombs tropical island breeding pool flooded grove island x 6 forest x 4 dryad arbor karakas wasteland
sideboard: hydroblast blue elemental blast divert dispel spell pierce kitchen finks obstinate baloth thada adel, acquisitor nature's claim hurkyl's recall energy flux creeping corrosion fracturing gust back to basics relic of progenitus
Burn mogg fanatic tattermunge maniac goblin guide figure of destiny grim lavamancer spark elemental hellspark elemental keldon marauders stigma lasher countryside crusher hell's thunder boggart ram-gang giant solifuge cursed scroll burst lightning shock chain lightning lava spike lightning bolt ankh of mishra pyrostatic pillar sudden shock flame rift magma jet smash to smithereens volcanic hammer incinerate price of progress * skullscorch rift bolt browbeat wheel of fortune ** flames of the blood hand char volcanic fallout sulfuric vortex flame javelin fireblast mox ruby *** chrome mox wasteland maze of ith scalding tarn wooded foothills arid mesa bloodstained mire barbarian ring forgotten cave teetering peaks mountain x 11
sideboard: pyroblast red elemental blast magus of the moon blood moon black vise winter orb ensnaring bridge sulfur elemental anarchy chain reaction sirocco wall of stone boil shatterstorm pulverize
Red Deck Wins frostling mogg fanatic spikeshot elder magus of the scroll goblin gudie jackal pup gorilla shaman grim lavamancer figure of destiny hearth kami kargan dragonlord slith firewalker blood knight warren instigator viashino slaughtermaster ember hauler stigma lasher phyrexian revoker porcelain legoinnaire magus of the moon boggart ram-gang simian spirit guide
skullclamp * cursed scroll brittle effigy lightning bolt burning wish incinerate magma jet umezawa's jitte * sword of fire and ice blood moon wheel of fortune ** ruination koth of the hammer mox ruby *** chrome mox mountain x 22 wasteland
sideboard: shatterstorm smash to smithereens shattering spree flame slash searing blaze pyroblast red elemental blast arc-slogger chain lightning flame-tongue kavu sulfuric vortex pyrokinesis rack and ruin pulverise anarchy
|
|
|
|
|
30
|
Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / Re: Highlander - The Highlander Primer
|
on: December 04, 2011, 06:01:16 pm
|
|
Fast, creature based, with White Index white weenie white weenie white weenie White Weenie White Skies Pink Weenie RW aggro GBW survival aggro GBW aggro GBW aggro GW stompy BWG Aggro BRW aggro Esper aggro esper aggro Bant Bant Aggro-Control Bad Randy (4c Aggro) 4C Aggro Zoo Zoo Zoo Zoo Zoo Zoo
white weenie savannah lions elite vanguard isamaru, hound of konda beckon apparition figure of destiny student of warfare mother of runes soltari priest soltari monk soltari trooper leonin skyhunter kor aeronaut mistral charger stormfront pegasus stoneforge mystic phyrexian revoker leonin relic-warder silver knight leonin arbiter flickerwisp kitchen finks spectral procession mirran crusader aven mindcensor skullclamp * path to exile swords to plowshares mana tithe steelshaper’s gift umezawa’s jitte * sword of fire and ice oblivion ring armageddon ravages of war elspeth, knight-errant chrome mox mox pearl *** plains x 19 flagstones of trokair karakas strip mine ** wasteland
sideboard: auriok champion abolish disenchant divine offering aura of silence linvala, keeper of silence seal of cleansing dawn elemental journey to nowhere beloved chaplain parallax wave dust to dust heap doll faerie macabre baneslayer angel
white weenie memnite suntail hawk lantern kami isamaru, hound of konda elite vanguard savannah lions figure of destiny student of warfare mother of runes stoneforge mystic silver knight knight of the holy nimbus mistral charger stormfront pegasus soltari trooper soltari monk soltari priest leonin skyhunter kor aeronaut leonin arbiter aven mindcensor flickerwisp kitchen finks skullclamp * steelshaper’s gift path to exile beckon apparition umezawa’s jitte * tangle wire sword of fire and ice oblivion ring spectral procession armageddon ravages of war elspeth, knight-errant chrome mox mox pearl *** wasteland strip mine ** flagstones of trokair karakas plains x 19
sideboard: baneslayer angel dawn elemental ethersworn canonist parallax wave faerie macabre heap doll rule of law mindbreak trap linvala, keeper of silence aura of silence stillmoon cavalier abolish swords to plowshares disenchant kor firewalker
white weenie mother of runes lantern kami suntail hawk soltari foot soldier elite vanguard savannah lions figure of destiny student of warfare isamaru, hound of konda stormfront pegasus mistral charger leonin skyhunter kor aeronaut stoneforge mystic knight of the holy nimbus soltari trooper soltari priest soltari monk silver knight aven mindcensor kitchen finks flickerwisp skullclamp * beckon apparition steelshaper's gift path to exile umezawa's jitte * raise the alarm sword of fire and ice tangle wire oblivion ring spectral procession faith's fetters armageddon ravages of war elspeth, knight-errant mox pearl *** chrome mox wasteland strip mine ** flagstones of trokair karakas plains x 18
sideboard: black vise winter orb tariff mindbreak trap ethersworn canonist rule of law tormod's crypt heap doll faerie macabre abolish disenchant aura of silence parallax wave baneslayer angel sword of light and shadow
White Weenie mother of runes lantern kami suntail hawk soltari foot soldier elite vanguard savannah lions figure of destiny isamaru, hound of konda stormfront pegasus mistral charger leonin skyhunter kor aeronaut stoneforge mystic knight of the holy nimbus soltari trooper soltari priest soltari monk silver knight kor firewalker aven mindcensor kitchen finks flickerwisp skullclamp * beckon apparition steelshaper's gift path to exile umezawa's jitte * raise the alarm sword of fire and ice tangle wire oblivion ring spectral procession faith's fetters armageddon ravages of war elspeth, knight-errant mox pearl *** chrome mox wasteland strip mine ** flagstones of trokair karakas plains x 18
sideboard: black vise winter orb auriok champion mindbreak trap ethersworn canonist rule of law tormod's crypt heap doll faerie macabre abolish disenchant aura of silence parallax wave baneslayer angel sword of light and shadow
White Skies Savannah Lions Elite Vanguard Isamaru, Hound of Konda Figure of Destiny Mother of Runes Suntail Hawk Lantern Kami Beckon Apparition Soltari Footsoldier Leonin Skyhunter Kor Aeronaught Soltari Priest Soltari Monk Mistral Charger Stormfront Pegasus Silver Knight Knight of the Holy Nimbus Sigiled Paladin Raise the Alarm Disinchant Skullclamp* Steelshapers Gift Path to Exile Oblivion Ring Tangle Wire Spectral Procession Aven Mindsensor Kitchen Finks Flickerwhisp Armageddon Ravages of War Umezawa's Jitte* Elspeth, Knight Errant Sword of Fire and Ice Faiths Fetters Strip Mine** Wasteland Mox Pearl*** Chrome Mox Karakas Flagstones of Trokair 18 Plains
SB Eathersworn Cannonist Mindbreak Trap Auroik Champion Sword of Light and Shadow Baneslayer Angel Winter Orb Anhk of Mishra Black Vise Honour the Pure Crusade Aura of Silence Heap Doll Burrenton Forge Tender Hokori, Dust Drinker Swords to Plowshares
Pink Weenie steppe lynx grim lavamancer isamaru, hound of konda elite vanguard goblin guide mother of runes figure of destiny savannah lions kor skyfisher leonin skyhunter kor aeronaut blade of the sixth pride jötun grunt knight of the white orchid serra avenger stoneforge mystic kor firewalker aven mindcensor flickerwisp kitchen finks magus of the moon duergar hedge-mage ranger of eos skullclamp * steelshaper's gift path to exile lightning bolt chain lightning umezawa's jitte * disenchant price of progress * lightning helix sword of fire and ice oblivion ring char spectral procession faith's fetters strip mine ** wasteland flooded strand bloodstained mire wooded foothills windswept heath scalding tarn arid mesa marsh flats plateau sacred foundry rugged prairie mishra's factory plains x 9 mountain
sideboard: pithing needle blood moon swords to plowshares ethersworn canonist pithing needle temporal isolation stillmoon cavalier pyroblast refraction trap flametongue kavu true believer wing shards boil harm's way samurai of the pale curtain
RW aggro magus of the scroll elite vanguard savannah lions isamaru, hound of konda figure of destiny grim lavamancer goblin guide stoneforge mystic leonin arbiter kargan dragonlord ember hauler stigma lasher goblin legionnaire aven mindcensor duergar hedge-mage magus of the moon boggart ram-gang ranger of eos flametongue kavu skullclamp * cursed scroll steelshaper's gift path to exile chain lightning lightning bolt umezawa's jitte * incinerate magma jet smash to smithereens lightning helix blood moon rift bolt sulfuric vortex fireblast ajani vengeant elspeth, knight errant koth of the hammer mox pearl *** windswept heath flooded strand arid mesa wooded foothills marsh flats bloodstained mire scalding tarn plateau sacred foundry battlefield forge plains mountain x 5 snow-covered mountain ghitu encampment wasteland strip mine ** rishadan port barbarian ring
sideboard: swords to plowshares sulfur elemental murderous redcap disenchant ethersworn canonist boil red elemental blast brion stoutarm fire imp mindbreak trap vexing shusher pyroblast flames of the blood hand tormod's crypt seal of cleansing
GBW survival aggro birds of paradise fyndhorn elves llanowar elves arbor elf noble hierarch wild nacatl loam lion lotus cobra tarmogoyf dark confidant fauna shaman stoneforge mystic putrid leech watchwolf tidehollow sculler mesmeric fiend qasali pridemage aven mindcensor loyal retainers fleshbag marauder knight of the reliquary eternal witness kitchen finks doran, the siege tower loxodon hierarch iona, shield of emeria enlightened tutor * duress inquisition of kozilek thoughtseize umezawa's jitte * survival of the fittest ** sword of fire and ice oblivion ring maelstrom pulse vindicate elspeth, knight-errant mox emerald *** wooded foothills windswept heath bloodstained mire misty rainforest verdant catacombs polluted delta flooded strand marsh flats arid mesa savannah scrubland bayou taiga overgrown tomb temple garden godless shrine stirring wildwood treetop village plains forest swamp wasteland
sideboard: hide // seek darkblast swords to plowshares path to exile steelshaper’s gift obstinate baloth ethersworn canonist kor firewalker orim’s chant seal of cleansing seal of primordium nature’s claim choke viridian shaman hymn to tourach
GBW aggro wild nacatl isamaru, hound of konda loam lion jungle lion mother of runes skyshroud elite noble hierarch elves of deep shadow birds of paradise dark confidant putrid leech qasali pridemage mesmeric fiend tidehollow sculler tarmogoyf stoneforge mystic knight of the reliquary doran, the siege tower eternal witness kitchen finks ranger of eos skullclamp * rancor swords to plowshares steelshaper’s gift duress inquisition of kozilek thoughtseize mind twist ** umezawa's jitte * bitterblossom hymn to tourach sword of fire and ice vindicate putrefy armageddon ravages of war mox jet *** misty rainforest wooded foothills bloodstained mire arid mesa flooded strand windswept heath verdant catacombs marsh flats polluted delta savannah bayou scrubland temple garden overgrown tomb godless shrine plains swamp forest x 3 flagstones of trokair wasteland
sideboard: linvala, keeper of silence ethersworn canonist pithing needle warmth phyrexian furnace circle of protection: red smother great sable stag faerie macabre krosan grip sword of light and shadow gaddock teeg null rod chainer’s edict cruel edict
GBW aggro elves of deep shadow llanowar elves noble hierarch birds of paradise elite vanguard savannah lions isamaru, hound of konda loam lion watchwolf qasali pridemage mesmeric fiend tidehollow sculler tarmogoyf jötun grunt stoneforge mystic dark confidant aven mindcensor doran, the siege tower knight of the reliquary kitchen finks eternal witness wickerbough elder baneslayer angel skullclamp * duress thoughtseize mind twist ** swords to plowshares umezawa's jitte * diabolic edict bitterblossom sword of fire and ice oblivion ring putrefy mortify vindicate maelstrom pulse mox jet *** marsh flats wooded foothills windswept heath misty rainforest arid mesa bloodstained mire verdant catacombs flooded strand polluted delta bayou scrubland savannah overgrown tomb godless shrine temple garden plains x 2 swamp forest snow-covered forest treetop village wasteland
sideboard: rule of law silence faerie macabre tormod's crypt path to exile nourish guttural response warmth krosan grip pithing needle oxidise shadow of doubt chainer's edict cruel edict wrath of god
GW stompy noble hierarch birds of paradise arbor elf fyndhorn elves llanowar elves joraga treespeaker loam lion lotus cobra tarmogoyf nest invader fauna shaman stoneforge mystic qasali pridemage rofellos, llanowar emissary knight of the reliquary dauntless escort eternal witness kitchen finks spectral procession call of the herd vengevine ranger of eos chameleon colossus wilt-leaf liege baneslayer angel wurmcoil engine exalted angel skullclamp * steelshaper's gift umezawa's jitte * oblivion ring armageddon ravages of war harmonise plow under primal command elspeth, knight-errant sol ring *** arid mesa marsh flats verdant catacombs misty rainforest windswept heath wooded foothills savannah temple garden sunpetal grove wooded bastion horizon canopy plains forest x 6 stirring wildwood treetop village natuko monastery sejiri steppe
sideboard: reveillark choke tsunami eldrazi monument loxodon hierarch nature's claim great sable stag leyline of sanctity viridian shaman eternal dragon mold shambler gaddock teeg dosan, the falling leaf emrakul, the aeons torn duplicant
BWG Aggro Rishadan port Savannah Swamp Wasteland Nantuko Monastary Volrath's Stronghold Scrubland Bayou Temple Garden Plains Wooded Foothills Misty Rainforest Strip Mine ** Polluted Delta Horizon Canopy Marsh Flats Treetop Village Arid Mesa Forest Windswept Heath Verdant Catacombs Stirring Wildwood Mox Pearl *** Qasali Pridemage Stoneforge Mystic Steelshaper's Gift Skullclamp * Umezawa's Jitte * Sword of Fire and Ice Duress Thoughtseize Inquesition of Kozilek Mesmeric Fiend Tidehollow Sculler Birds of Paradise Elves of Deep Shadow Arbor Elf Noble Heirarch Llanowar Elves Loam Lion Gaddock Teeg Tarmogoyf Putrid Leech Dark Confidant Bitterblossum Eternal Witness Kitchen Finks Aven Mindscencor Doran the Seige Tower Oblivion Ring Maelstrom Pulse Putrefy Vindicate Swords to Plowshares Path to Exile Kknight of the Relequary Elspeth, Knight Errant Baneslayer Angel Profane Command Exalted Angel
Sideboard: Disenchant Seal of Cleansing Aura of Silence Ethersworn Cannonist Rule of Law Choke Planar Void Yixlid Jailer Faerie Macabre Withered Wretch Primal Command Loxodon Hierarch Obstinate Baloth Shriekmaw Parralax Wave
BRW aggro figure of destiny steppe lynx goblin guide grim lavamancer carnophage vampire lacerator savannah lions isamaru, hound of konda elite vanguard student of warfare stoneforge mystic jötun grunt dark confidant keldon marauders slavering nulls tidehollow sculler aven mindcensor cursed scroll skullclamp * burst lightning lightning bolt chain lightning rift bolt path to exile thoughtseize mind twist ** umezawa's jitte * smash to smithereens bitterblossom gerrard's verdict lightning helix rise//fall hide//seek grafted wargear sword of fire and ice tangle wire vindicate blightning strip mine ** wasteland marsh flats wooded foothills bloodstained mire arid mesa windswept heath flooded strand verdant catacombs scalding tarn polluted delta plateau badlands scrubland godless shrine sacred foundry blood crypt barbarian ring rishadan port swamp plains mountain
sideboard: steelshaper's gift pyroblast duress red elemental blast diabolic edict chainer's edict ethersworn canonist mesmeric fiend castigate withered wretch perish boil boiling seas flametongue kavu ranger of eos
Esper aggro isamaru, hound of konda elite vanguard mother of runes stoneforge mystic dark confidant mesmeric fiend tidehollow sculler leonin relic-warder aven mindcensor vendilion clique trinket mage thada adel, acquisitor sower of temptation venser, shaper savant glen elendra archmage engineered explosives sensei’s divining top ancestral visions preordain brainstorm thoughtseize inquisition of kozilek path to exile swords to plowshares umezawa’s jitte * bitterblossom remand mana leak oblivion ring vindicate thirst for knowledge sword of fire and ice sword of feast and famine control magic jace, the mind sculptor chrome mox mox sapphire *** sol ring *** marsh flats polluted delta flooded strand misty rainforest scalding tarn scrubland underground sea tundra godless shrine watery grave hallowed fountain seachrome coast creeping tar pit celestial colonnade mishra’s factory swamp island plains ancient den academy ruins rishadan port wasteland
sideboard: kitchen finks mirran crusader perish parallax wave shriekmaw fact or fiction seal of cleansing disenchant dread of night ratchet bomb counterspell mindbreak trap faerie macabre ravenous trap tormod’s crypt
esper aggro mother of runes elite vanguard savannah lions isamaru, hound of konda dark confidant stoneforge mystic leonin relic-warder mesmeric fiend tidehollow sculler porcelain legionnaire aven mindcensor trinket mage vendilion clique thada adel, acquisitor kitchen finks sower of temptation venser, shaper savant engineered explosives sensei's divining top preordain brainstorm ancestral vision thoughtseize inquisition of kozilek path to exile swords to plowshares umezawa's jitte * bitterblossom counterspell sword of fire and ice thirst for knowledge oblivion ring vindicate control magic batterskull elspeth, knight-errant jace, the mind sculptor mox jet *** sol ring *** polluted delta flooded strand marsh flats misty rainforest scrubland tundra underground sea godless shrine hallowed fountain watery grave darkslick shores seachrome coast celestial colonnade creeping tar pit plains island swamp karakas mishra's factory rishadan port wasteland
sideboard: glen elendra archmage spectral lynx duress mindbreak trap ethersworn canonist planar void perish parallax wave shriekmaw skinrender seal of cleansing disenchant dread of night ravenous trap tormod's crypt
Bant noble hierarch birds of paradise llanowar elves fyndhorn elves fauna shaman lotus cobra tarmogoyf qasali pridemage stoneforge mystic trinket mage aven mindcensor trygon predator eternal witness kitchen finks knight of the reliquary troll ascetic vendillion clique venser, shaper savant baneslayer angel sol ring *** sensei’s divining top swords to plowshares brainstorm repeal umezawa’s jitte * remand mana leak counterspell mana drain * sword of fire and ice oblivion ring armageddon fact or fiction gifts ungiven ** jace, the mind sculptor elspeth, knight-errant cryptic command flooded strand polluted delta scalding tarn windswept heath misty rainforest verdant catacombs tundra savannah tropical island breeding pool temple garden hallowed fountain flooded grove adarkar wastes yavimaya coast brushland stirring wildwood karakas forest island x 3 plains
sideboard: ghostly prison sower of temptation revoke existence rhox war monk loxodon hierarch kor firewalker sacred ground extract gaea’s blessing relic of progenitus pithing needle krosan grip great sable stag choke tariff
Bant Aggro-Control Sol Ring *** Gifts Ungiven ** Mana Drain * Skullclamp * Umezawa's Jitte * Baneslayer Angel Venser, Shaper Savant Vendilion Clique Troll Ascetic Noble Hierarch Birds of Paradise Llanowar Elves Fyndhorn Elves Aven Mindcensor Glen Elendra Archmage Fauna Shaman Stoneforge Mystic Kitchen Finks Knight of the Reliquary Qasali Pridemage Lotus Cobra Trygon Predator Tarmogoyf Eternal Witness Trinket Mage Counterspell Remand Cryptic Command Mana Leak Swords to Plowshares Jace, the Mind Sculptor Elspeth, Knight Errant Sensei's Divining Top Armageddon Fact or Fiction Brainstorm Oblivion Ring Repeal Flooded Strand Polluted Delta Scalding Tarn Windswept Heath Misty Rainforest Verdant Catacombs Karakas Stirring Wildwood Flooded Grove Adarkar Wastes Brushland Yavimaya Wastes Tundra Savannah Tropical Island Breeding Pool Temple Garden Hallowed Fountain Plains Forest Island x3
Sideboard: Ghostly Prison Sower of Temptation Treachery Rhox War Monk Loxodon Hierarch Circle of Protection: Red Sacred Ground Extract Gaea's Blessing Relic of Progenitus Pithing Needle Krosan Grip Great Sable Stag Choke Tariff
Bad Randy (4c Aggro) Wild Mongrel Savannah Lions Elite Vanguard Wild Nacatl Goblin Guide Kird Ape Swords to Plowshares Grim Lavamancer Putrid Leech Watchwolf Tarmogoyf Dark Confidant Tidehollow Sculler Qasali Pridemage Gaddock Teeg Woolly Thoctar Knight of the Reliquary Kitchen Finks Ranger of Eos Blade of the Sixth Pride Figure of Destiny Sulfuric Vortex Umezawa's Jitte Chain Lightning Lightning Bolt Magma Jet Incinerate Tribal Flames Lightning Helix Char Mind Twist Thoughtseize Duress Path to Exile Maelstrom Pulse Vindicate
Strip Mine Wasteland City of Brass Arid Mesa Wooded Foothills Gemstone Mine Blood Crypt Scalding Tarn Bloodstained Mire Plateau Badlands Sacred Foundry Savannah Misty Rainforest Scrubland Flooded Strand Marsh Flats Bayou Forest Stomping Ground Verdant Catacombs Windswept Heath Temple Garden Taiga
Sideboard: Harm's Way Seal of Primordium Seal of Cleansing Murderous Redcap Loxodon Hierarch Stillmoon Cavalier Grafted Wargear Pyroblast Red Elemental Blast Price of Progress Ankh of Mishra Mindbreak Trap Ethersworn Canonist Castigate Aven Riftwatcher
4C Aggro Grim Lavamancer Char Sulfuric Vortex Watchwolf Tidehollow Sculler Thoughtseize City of Brass Arid Mesa Tribal Flames Umezawa's Jitte * Wooded Foothills Skullclamp * Wasteland Gemstone Mine Godless Shrine Qasali Pridemage Woolly Thoctar Scalding Tarn Gaddock Teeg Duress Bloodstained Mire Plateau Lightning Bolt Isamaru, Hound of Konda Badlands Sacred Foundry Doran, the Seige Tower Chain Lightning Savannah Strip Mine ** Keldon Marauders Misty Rainforest Scrubland Dark Confidant Flooded Strand Marsh Flats Incinerate Tarmogoyf Goblin Guide Goblin Legionnaire Kird Ape Bayou Forest Stomping Ground Elite Vanguard Wild Nacatl Verdant Catacombs Rift Bolt Windswept Heath Lightning Helix Putrid Leech Jungle Lion Wild Mongrel Savannah Lions Temple Garden Kitchen Finks Price of Progress * Mind Twist ** Vindicate Taiga
Sideboard: Stillmoon Cavalier Red Elemental Blast Enlightened Tutor Krosan Grip Burrenton Forge-Tender Ethersworn Canonist Relic of Progenitus Magus of the Moon Naya Charm Serenity Blood Moon Pyroblast Loxodon Hierarch Mesmeric Fiend x 2
zoo steppe lynx figure of destiny skyshroud elite kird ape loam lion elite vanguard savannah lions isamaru, hound of konda grim lavamancer wild nacatl goblin guide plated geopede stoneforge mystic tarmogoyf fauna shaman dryad sophisticate tin-street hooligan qasali pridemage watchwolf aven mindcensor knight of the reliquary burning-tree shaman boggart ram-gang bloodbraid elf vengevine skullclamp * path to exile swords to plowshares lightning bolt umezawa's jitte * magma jet price of progress * lightning helix tangle wire sulfuric vortex rith’s charm elspeth, knight-errant chrome mox wooded foothills marsh flats scalding tarn windswept heath arid mesa misty rainforest bloodstained mire taiga savannah plateau temple garden stomping ground sacred foundry plains x 3 forest x 2 mountain wasteland strip mine ** treetop village
sideboard: boil choke magus of the moon blood moon duergar hedge-mage krosan grip aura of silence ethersworn canonist steelshaper’s gift kitchen finks mindbreak trap vexing shusher pyroblast ancient grudge artifact mutation
Zoo wild nacatl skyshroud elite kird ape loam lion figure of destiny grim lavamancer isamaru, hound of konda goblin guide noble hierarch qasali pridemage watchwolf gaddock teeg tin-street hooligan stoneforge mystic tarmogoyf mirran crusader burning-tree shaman knight of the reliquary woolly thoctar ranger of eos bloodbraid elf hero of bladehold skullclamp * rancor swords to plowshares path to exile chain lightning lightning bolt rift bolt umezawa’s jitte * sylvan library incinerate magma jet lightning helix tangle wire char elspeth, knight-errant mox emerald *** wooded foothills arid mesa windswept heath scalding tarn marsh flats flooded strand verdant catacombs misty rainforest bloodstained mire plateau sacred foundry taiga stomping ground savannah temple garden horizon canopy treetop village forest plains mountain wasteland strip mine **
sideboard: krosan grip ethersworn canonist flametongue kavu thorn of amethyst phyrexian revoker kitchen finks baneslayer angel rule of law mindbreak trap aura of silence armageddon choke red elemental blast pyroblast sword of fire and ice
zoo steppe lynx figure of destiny skyshroud elite kird ape loam lion elite vanguard savannah lions isamaru, hound of konda grim lavamancer wild nacatl goblin guide plated geopede stoneforge mystic tarmogoyf fauna shaman dryad sophisticate tin-street hooligan qasali pridemage watchwolf aven mindcensor knight of the reliquary burning-tree shaman boggart ram-gang bloodbraid elf vengevine skullclamp * path to exile swords to plowshares lightning bolt umezawa's jitte * sylvan library magma jet price of progress * lightning helix tangle wire sulfuric vortex rith’s charm elspeth, knight-errant wooded foothills marsh flats scalding tarn windswept heath arid mesa misty rainforest bloodstained mire taiga savannah plateau temple garden stomping ground sacred foundry plains x 3 forest x 2 mountain wasteland strip mine ** treetop village
sideboard: obstinate baloth boil choke magus of the moon blood moon krosan grip aura of silence steelshaper’s gift kitchen finks sword of fire and ice troll ascetic vexing shusher pyroblast ancient grudge artifact mutation
Zoo figure of destiny grim lavamancer steppe lynx goblin guide savannah lions elite vanguard isamaru hound of konda kird ape loam lion skyshroud elite wild nacatl leonin relic warder phyrexian revoker stoneforge mystic tarmogoyf plated geopede qasali pridemage tin-street hooligan dryad sophisticate porcelain legionnaire aven mindcensor burning tree shaman vithian renegades knight of the reliquary bloodbraid elf path to exile swords to plowshares lightning bolt rancor green sun's zenith umezawa's jitte * sylvan library magma jet lightning helix rith's charm elspeth, knight errant mox emerald *** mox pearl *** wooded foothills bloodstained mire misty rainforest arid mesa marsh flats windswept heath verdant catacombs scalding tarn taiga plateau savannah stomping ground sacred foundry temple garden plains forest mountain barbarian ring treetop village karakas wasteland
sideboard: ethersworn canonist sulfuric vortex mindbreak trap tormod's crypt artifact mutation fiery justice pyrokinesis blood moon magus of the moon choke krosan grip oblivion ring shattering spree ancient grudge sword of fire and ice
zoo steppe lynx figure of destiny kird ape loam lion elite vanguard savannah lions isamaru, hound of konda grim lavamancer wild nacatl goblin guide phyrexian revoker plated geopede stoneforge mystic tarmogoyf tin-street hooligan qasali pridemage dryad sophisticate aven mindcensor porcelain legionnaire knight of the reliquary vithian renegades burning-tree shaman bloodbraid elf skullclamp * cursed scroll path to exile swords to plowshares lightning bolt rancor green sun’s zenith umezawa's jitte * magma jet price of progress * sulfuric vortex rith’s charm elspeth, knight-errant arid mesa wooded foothills windswept heath marsh flats scalding tarn verdant catacombs misty rainforest bloodstained mire taiga savannah plateau temple garden stomping ground sacred foundry plains x 2 forest x 2 mountain karakas wasteland strip mine ** barbarian ring treetop village
sideboard: sword of fire and ice pyroblast creeping corrosion choke ancient grudge artifact mutation fiery justice pyrokinesis magus of the moon blood moon vexing shusher krosan grip shattering spree boil tormod’s crypt
Zoo steppe lynx figure of destiny kird ape loam lion elite vanguard savannah lions isamaru, hound of konda grim lavamancer wild nacatl goblin guide phyrexian revoker plated geopede stoneforge mystic tarmogoyf tin-street hooligan qasali pridemage dryad sophisticate aven mindcensor knight of the reliquary vithian renegades burning-tree shaman bloodbraid elf skullclamp * cursed scroll path to exile swords to plowshares lightning bolt rancor green sun’s zenith umezawa's jitte * magma jet price of progress * tangle wire sulfuric vortex rith’s charm elspeth, knight-errant arid mesa wooded foothills windswept heath marsh flats scalding tarn verdant catacombs misty rainforest bloodstained mire taiga savannah plateau temple garden stomping ground sacred foundry plains x 2 forest x 2 mountain karakas wasteland strip mine ** barbarian ring treetop village
sideboard: sword of fire and ice pyroblast creeping corrosion choke ancient tomb artefact mutation fiery justice pyrokinesis magus of the moon blood moon vexing shusher krosan grip shattering spree boil tormod’s crypt
|
|
|
|
|