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1  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: ernageddon on: July 04, 2010, 12:47:25 pm
the deck shouldn't be running Factory because you are geddoning anyways, also you have high color requirements. I think it ran less forests and Brushland instead so you can play green without forest. Autumn Willow is too expensive to reliably cast. I would also expect a ton of Necro decks and B/W decks (since those are the most powerful in the format) and be playing 3x Hurricane to kill off Serra, Sengir and any greedy Necro players that don't think you have Direct Damage.
2  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: NEW IDEA :-:-: Channel-Mirror on: July 04, 2010, 12:33:56 pm
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Assuming you win a game, they'll know which fireball variant you're using. I agree that I would still personally name either Channel or Mirror, but just pointing out the flaw in your logic. If I knew you were running fireball, I might put a second mage on that if I drew into it.

But can't they just do the same thing to Emrakul? MM on him still kills that win con anyways right? Hence the reason I was going to run 2x Braingeyser and 2x Stroke of Genius for the wincon. That way they cannot MM both and it is not a dead draw by any means, rather a combo enabler that allows the deck to draw Mirrors and Tutors that it would otherwise not see. So what if I need to make extra mana over Fireball or Emrakul, when the combo is working then you rarely fizzle anyways.
3  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: NEW IDEA :-:-: Channel-Mirror on: June 28, 2010, 09:11:43 am
Emrakul seems bad because you don't get to carry the Channel over into his extra turns.
Stroke is also probably not ideal as it requires 40+ mana for the win instead of just 20
This is kind of serious and kind of not, but what about Hurricane effects? It would be on color, and because of the Mirror the deck would go back up to 20 life so it would be able to hurricane for more than 20 and still survive...?
4  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: NEW IDEA :-:-: Channel-Mirror on: June 09, 2010, 04:15:31 pm
I've been talking to some people and they suggested Chromatic Star as a colorless source of colored mana while going off. I haven't found that I needed to much colored mana inside the loop as Stroke and 1-mana tutors are all that hit the board.

Someone today told me that Mox Diamond was restricted. That doesn't sound right, but if its true I messed up a bit.
5  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: NEW IDEA :-:-: Channel-Mirror on: June 08, 2010, 08:10:28 pm
ok try number two, was finding the first to be too inconsistent after the combo started and selective sucked. I added the black search because I forgot it the first time, an Emrakul as a backup win and lock for mill (JIC). I didn't add Yawgmoth's (when Mirror triggers I don't have a graveyard anymore, not a combo) I took out the Tolarian search (I don't need academy so meh) and didn't add the Cunning Wish (I need Stroke during the combo, its not just a win condition but also an enabler to get to another Mirror)

-- Winning stuff --9
1 Channel
4 Lich's Mirror
4 Stroke of Genius

--- Protection --12
4 Force of will
4 Pact of Negation
4 Thoughtseize

--- Digging things --11
1 Gush
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Tinker
1 brainstorm
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Personal Tutor
4 Sensei's Diving top
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor

--- Mana things --22
4 Mox Diamond
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Black Lotus
3 Underground Sea
4 Tropical Island
1 Bayou
3 Misty Rainforest
3 Polluted Delta
1 Tolarian Academy

---Good Stuff --6
1 Voltaic Key
1 Time Vault
1 Memory Jar
1 Time Walk
1 Timetwister
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
6  Eternal Formats / Creative / NEW IDEA :-:-: Channel-Mirror on: June 03, 2010, 10:32:27 am
I have had this idea since I got a set of this card and couldn't figure out any way to utilize it. One day someone said that Vintage was 'The format where any seven cards can win this turn" and although I do not agree with him, something in my head clicked.

 {G} {U} {B} Channel - Mirror

-- Winning stuff
1 Channel
4 Lich's Mirror
4 Stroke of Genius
2 Selective Memory


--- Protection
4 Force of will
4 Pact of Negation
4 Thoughtseize

--- Digging things
1 Gush
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Tinker
1 brainstorm
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Personal Tutor
1 Sylvan Scrying

--- Mana things
4 Mox Diamond
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Black Lotus
3 Underground Sea
4 Tropical Island
1 Bayou
4 Misty Rainforest
4 Polluted Delta
1 Tolarian Academy

---Good Stuff
1 Voltaic Key
1 Time Vault
1 Memory Jar
1 Time Spiral
1 Time Walk
1 Timetwister

So the idea is that if you can get channel and cast it, you can continue it's effect through an activation of Lich's Mirror. Each Lich's Mirror that you cast while channel is active allows you to draw seven cards and gain 20 colorless mana. At some point you can draw selective memory and then remove the cards from your deck until you can draw through the deck every time while still playing Lich's Mirror and gaining mana, building up into a huge Stroke on your opponent for the win. I don't know if this is even viable but I'd like to hear some comments on it. I've only played Vintage in a casual atmosphere and have only limited playtesting with the deck since we do not have a large vintage crowd here in Rochester NY.
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