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1  Eternal Formats / Null Rod Based Aggro / Re: Noble Fish: GUW variants here! on: December 22, 2011, 12:29:19 pm
tried before but doesn't really mesh well with the deck. yeah,relic warder is really good but it's just that it doesn't really do well with the deck. just my opinion though.
2  Eternal Formats / Null Rod Based Aggro / Re: Noble Fish: GUW variants here! on: December 21, 2011, 11:50:54 am
Hello guys! Been a while since I played vintage again. Anyway,the meta here in my country is usually blue based drain decks. Basically jace control with snapcaster mage and mud aggro. So I'm playing this list. Feel free to comment.

Noble fish
Creatures(20):
4 noble hierarch
4 qasali pridemage
3 snapcaster mage
3 meddling mage
2 cold-eyed selkie
2 vendilion clique
2 trygon predator

Instant/Sorcery(15):
4 force of will
3 daze
3 spell pierce
2 swords to plowshares
1 ancestral recall
1 time walk
1 surgical extraction

Planeswalker(1):
Jace, the mind sculptor

Enchantment(3):
3 stony silence

Artifact(4):
1 black lotus
1 mox sapphire
1 mox emerald
1 mox pearl

Lands(17):
3 misty rainforest
2 flooded strand
3 tropical island
3 tundra
1 savannah
3 wasteland
1 strip mine
1 island

Sideboard(15):
3 pithing needle
2 surgical extraction
2 tormod's crypt
3 steel sabotage
2 trygon predator
1 cold-eyed selkie
2 kataki war's wage/energy flux
3  Eternal Formats / Null Rod Based Aggro / Re: Noble Fish: GUW variants here! on: October 06, 2011, 04:09:55 am
I like the build that placed 2nd in bloomburg. Here's the list. I might go with this build but might have some changes on the SB. I might put in 3 steel sabotage in the SB for shops MU. Still gonna try though.

Maindeck :
4 noble hierarch
4 qasali pridemage
3 trygon predator
3 cold-eyed selkie
3 meddling mage
2 vendilion clique
4 force of will
3 daze
3 mental misstep
3 spell pierce
2 swords to plowshares
1 ancestral recall
1 time walk
1 jace, the mind sculptor
3 null rod
1 black lotus
1 mox sapphire
1 mox pearl
1 mox emerald
3 misty rainforest
1 flooded strand
3 wasteland
1 strip mine
3 tropical island
2 tundra
1 island
1 forest

SB:
1 flusterstorm
1 hurkyl's recall
2 nature's claim
2 swords to plowshares
2 sower of temptation
2 mindbreak trap
2 tormod's crypt
3 relic of progenitus
4  Eternal Formats / Null Rod Based Aggro / Re: Noble Fish: GUW variants here! on: August 23, 2011, 08:22:18 am
To me,I already accepted that game1 against dredge is thus far auto-win against noble fish but knowing this fact, I have preapred my SB to ssomehow take games2 and 3 from them.
You're running an 8-9 card sideboard against them?

Yup,I'm running 8 cards on the SB for dredge. Still not sure on what combination of hates will I put. If I'm gonna run GSZ in my deck, probably gonna put scavenging ooze on the SB since its tutorable.
5  Eternal Formats / Null Rod Based Aggro / Re: Noble Fish: GUW variants here! on: August 21, 2011, 12:04:33 pm
AmbivalentDuck — Could you explain more clearly your justification for MD Extraction? I think the card is way too narrow to truly hamper Gush, but maybe that is off base? I mean, Extirpate is too narrow in decks that could run it and that card can't be countered so why would Surgical Extraction make the cut in that match-up? Isn't something like Flusterstorm just infinitely better? If you extract Gush that is all well and good, but it doesn't cut them off from Jace and/or Confidant nor from Tinker --> Bot or Vault/Key. Extract is good against Dredge (though only marginally so) because it hits something like Narcomoeba or Bridge which truly cuts them off from the only engine that makes their deck work.
Surgical Extraction "counters" topdeck tutors, screws with Gifts Ungiven piles, and in combination with Strip effects can screw an opponent out of an entire color (particularly in a Null Rod build).  I've also caught some players' Yawg Wills by nailing Black Lotus in response.  I'm not saying I'd run it for this matchup, nor that I'd board it in in your build...but it's certainly not awful game 1, particularly if it's unexpected.

AmbivalentDuck - IMO,it's a waste of slot in a noble fish deck if running MD surgical extraction. I mean,yeah you have a point of somehow screwing your opponents gush or removing BL in response to Yawg's Will and stuff but if you'll look at it in a bigger picture, you'll see that it's better to put something MD instead of putting surgical extraction main. I don't know but I share the same thought as Storm. To me,I already accepted that game1 against dredge is thus far auto-win against noble fish but knowing this fact, I have preapred my SB to ssomehow take games2 and 3 from them. That's why I believe,running MD the cards that's generally used against blue based decks is still the way to go. Since blue based decks are usually about more than half the meta in anywhere. Just my thoughts.
6  Eternal Formats / Null Rod Based Aggro / Re: Noble Fish: GUW variants here! on: July 25, 2011, 04:00:22 am
Hello! I'm currently trying this list.
Maindeck :
4 noble hierarch
3 qasali pridemage
3 edric,spymaster of trest
3 lotus cobra
2 trygon predator
2 leonin relic warder
1 gilded drake
4 force of will
3 daze
3 spell pierce
1 ancestral recall
1 time walk
1 mystical tutor
1 echoing truth
1 tariff
1 mindbreak trap
1 life from the loam
2 jace, the mind sculptor
4 null rod
4 wasteland
1 strip mine
3 misty rainforest
2 flooded strand
3 tropical island
2 tundra
2 savannah
1 island
1 forest
Sideboard :
3 pithing needle
3 surgical extraction
2 relic of progenitus / tormod's crypt
3 steel sabotage
3 path to exile
1 mindbreak trap

Edric fits perfectly in the deck,replacing selkie. Although only darkblast is taken out as an option of removal because of its a 2/2 body. Another good thing that I find with running edric is that you can aggro out. Since I'm a creature based. Anyway, thoughts, comments or other suggestions would be appriciated. Thanks.
7  Eternal Formats / Null Rod Based Aggro / Re: Noble Fish: GUW variants here! on: May 10, 2011, 09:36:45 pm
Hello guys! I'm planning on running this build without mox and lotus. Feel free to comment on it. Thanks.

4 Noble Hierarch
4 Qasali Pridemage
3 Trygon Predator
3 Lotus Cobra
2 Cold-eyed Selkie
1 Gilded Drake

4 Force of Will
3 Spell Pierce
3 Daze
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Brainstorm
1 Time Walk
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Echoing Truth
1 Hurkyl's Recall
1 Mindbreak Trap
1 Tariff
1 Life from the Loam

2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
4 Null Rod

3 Misty Rainforest
3 Flooded Strand
3 Tropical Island
3 Tundra
4 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
1 Forest

SB :
3 Tormod's Crypt
3 Pithing Needle
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Sower of Temptation ---> planning to replace this with 2 more nature's claim
2 Nature's Claim
3 Swords to Plowshares
8  Eternal Formats / Null Rod Based Aggro / Re: Noble Fish: GUW variants here! on: March 24, 2011, 01:59:23 am
Hello storm! I tried your list and made a few changes since the ones I playtested with are mono blue tezz decks. These were the changes : -4 steel sabotage, -4 meddling mage, -1 null rod,-1 wasteland. +1 natural order, +1 progenitus, +2 jace the mind sculptor, +1 mystical tutor,+1 brainstorm,+3 spell pierce,+1 plains. It kinda wemt well actually. Green sun zenith is the nuts here. Will post again next time after I try with aggro-shops and dredge.
9  Eternal Formats / Null Rod Based Aggro / Re: Noble Fish: GUW variants here! on: February 15, 2011, 10:21:07 am
Whats everyone's opinion on taking out all the goyfs for 2 true believers and 2 kataki's main and replace the katakis in the sb with teegs?

1 goyf for 1 more meddling mage?

Yes, this does sound crazy but there have been more times where I need resilience more than a beater.

as for the land i just took out 1 tundra, works very well as far as the mana curve goes.

Teeg makes 0 sense with Force Of Will and this deck should be running 4 Force Of Will. I think the future of this deck might lie in Green Sun's Zenith with a toolbox approach and possibly Natural Order and Progenitus. That would be a new and exciting direction to take this style of deck for sure.

i'm actually thinking of how to fit in the GSZ in this deck because GSZ is a nice tutor into play creatures. like you can tutor for qasali or trygon into play. another thing is,are we really going to cut cold-eye selkie? or maybe run 2 copies in the deck for blue matchups? although i admit,sometimes i want to cut selkie out the deck since the meta where i'm playing is mostly aggro-shops and ichorid. any suggestions on what to put replace selkie with?
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