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Vintage Community Discussion / Non-Vintage / Re: Classic Magic Online eternal
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on: August 10, 2011, 10:09:33 pm
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Restricted list for Classic online.
Balance •Channel •Demonic Consultation •Demonic Tutor •Fastbond •Flash •Imperial Seal •Mana Crypt •Mana Vault •Necropotence •Sol Ring •Strip Mine •Time Vault •Tinker •Trinisphere •Tolarian Academy •Vampiric Tutor •Wheel of Fortune •Yawgmoth's Will
What is unrestricted, you ask?
Brainstorm Ponder Merchant Scroll LED Petal Bargain Desire Mystical Tutor Library of Alexandria Burning Wish Gifts Fact or Fiction Memory Jar Regrowth Thirst for Knowledge Windfall
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Eternal Formats / Global Vintage Tournament Reports and Results / Re: 2011 Vintage Champs at Gen Con
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on: August 08, 2011, 08:58:43 pm
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No security could watch every single person. Something like this can only be solved by the culture. If everyone (well at least the majoriy) look out for each other, and get over the "i'm not a rat" foolishness, thats the only way to stop it. It hurts me to even make a candyass statement like that cause I love being an "every man for himself" sort of guy. But the theives have all realized by now that we all have the "every man for himself" mindset and exploit it. When someone steals a backpack right from someones side while they're still there, someone on the opposite side of the table must have noticed something.
If you can call not protecting the integrity of the game you like to play, as being "a rat" then I don't know what to say to a person like that. I could never allow someone to steal a person's belongings in front of me and not say anything or do something.
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Eternal Formats / Eternal Article Discussion / Re: [Free Article] Vintage: The Return of Fatestitcher
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on: July 26, 2011, 08:49:54 pm
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Right now, I like a faster version.
Months and months ago, Brassman predicted that Europe was well ahead of our metagame with regard to how popular Gush and Time Vault were there relative to our Workshop-dominated quagmire. It seems that we've caught up. These blue decks are FAST. To keep that game 1 win percentage, I want a fast Dredge like this one. There's such a big difference between, say, a 75% and 90% game one win percentage because of how games 2 & 3 play out.
Hey, Mat, good to see you back. Don't know if you recall my pm to you in Feb of this year where I needed advice on the Classic Dredge list I top 8'd on MTGO with using Fate+Leds and Titan as my DR target, you were curious why Titan and I remember telling you so many lines of play with it are just Dumb(small uses like Recurr Wsipmare for Oath, Serenity for Shops or the most common being Lands for Ghasts,Fates and Dredges). Look forward to your articles again.
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Eternal Formats / Null Rod Based Aggro / Re: G/W for 2010
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on: February 17, 2011, 09:41:33 pm
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Sorry, but straight up GW is, IMO, far superior and more consistent to GWB. Noble Fish runs FoW, Daze and Co. and is a totally different archetype so I will not even add it in here for comparison. GW does almost everything that GWB does, and has far superior consistency.
I am just convinced that no one here knows how to design a solid GW list. Either that, or none of the good beats deck designers are coming forth. Let me state some rules that I think apply to GW in general:
[GW beats truly is a deck that should play out a bit like MUD, but with the twist that it attacks decks with hate-bears that serve the role of lock-piece and win con. The only true Lock-piece + win con in MUD is Lodestone Golem. Anyway, instead of being just critical I will try to be helpful and post a list with some explanations:
4 Samurai of the Pale Curtain Amazingly underrated. Read the ruling on this guy. He stops Narcomoeba from even hitting play from the lib. Trust me. He does.
I'm not even claiming that this list is perfect at all, but I am claiming that it is far more focused on a single winning strategy. Disrupt mana + beat down. I am sorry if people are offended by my statements, but it is frustrating to see so many lists that appear to make the same fundamental mistakes. I want to see this archetype take off, but it will not as long as people are simply trying to play "fun" cards and not efficient or realistic cards.
Trust you on the ruling, eh? Pale curtain DOES NOT or ever will in any legal game stop any card that was not in play to begin with from going to the GY. It's bad to trust people. I have talked to a couple people (judge certified) and they disagree. This is how it was explained to me: Card type does not care about zone and permanent is now (under new M10 rules that came into effect AFTER the printing of Samurai) considered to be a "card type." A great example is Tarmogoyf. Tarmogoyf reads card types in the graveyard as creature, planeswalker, artifact etc. What the new M11 rules state is that creature, planeswalker, artifact, Land, and enchantment are all sub-types of permanent cards. In essence, they all fall under the umbrella of "permanent." This tag does not care about zone and thus Samurai will RFG then when they are dredged into the yard. Ask any certified judge and see what he/she says. Easier to just read; Whenever a card is placed into the GY from the Battlefield exile it. Except that's not what it reads. Oracle text on Samurai of the Pale Curtain is: Bushido 1 (When this blocks or becomes blocked, it gets +1/+1 until end of turn.) If a permanent would be put into a graveyard, exile it instead. There is no "from the battlefield" anywhere in there. If they were updating this to normal post M11 lingo then they would have added that to the oracle but they didn't. As to rule 101.1 you are correct Lord Homer Cat. Let me point you though to rule 110.4: 110.4a The term “permanent card” is used to refer to a card that could be put onto the battlefield. Specifically, it means an artifact, creature, enchantment, land, or planeswalker card. I am not 100% sure, but I think that someone told me that, in the case of Samurai, they had not yet made the distinction of permanent being "on the battlefield" but in play. I believe the intention, and current ruling, of the card was to have it read "permanent card." Why? Because they never bothered to add the "From the Battlefield" clause to the oracle text at all. Please stop. Just stop. I am 100% sure. Pale curtain does not stop Moebas from entering the battlefield through the library. It also does not stop Thoughtseize from binning your Creatures, Artifacts, enchantments or Walkers.
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Eternal Formats / Null Rod Based Aggro / Re: G/W for 2010
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on: February 17, 2011, 04:55:21 pm
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Sorry, but straight up GW is, IMO, far superior and more consistent to GWB. Noble Fish runs FoW, Daze and Co. and is a totally different archetype so I will not even add it in here for comparison. GW does almost everything that GWB does, and has far superior consistency.
I am just convinced that no one here knows how to design a solid GW list. Either that, or none of the good beats deck designers are coming forth. Let me state some rules that I think apply to GW in general:
[GW beats truly is a deck that should play out a bit like MUD, but with the twist that it attacks decks with hate-bears that serve the role of lock-piece and win con. The only true Lock-piece + win con in MUD is Lodestone Golem. Anyway, instead of being just critical I will try to be helpful and post a list with some explanations:
4 Samurai of the Pale Curtain Amazingly underrated. Read the ruling on this guy. He stops Narcomoeba from even hitting play from the lib. Trust me. He does.
I'm not even claiming that this list is perfect at all, but I am claiming that it is far more focused on a single winning strategy. Disrupt mana + beat down. I am sorry if people are offended by my statements, but it is frustrating to see so many lists that appear to make the same fundamental mistakes. I want to see this archetype take off, but it will not as long as people are simply trying to play "fun" cards and not efficient or realistic cards.
Trust you on the ruling, eh? Pale curtain DOES NOT or ever will in any legal game stop any card that was not in play to begin with from going to the GY. It's bad to trust people. I have talked to a couple people (judge certified) and they disagree. This is how it was explained to me: Card type does not care about zone and permanent is now (under new M10 rules that came into effect AFTER the printing of Samurai) considered to be a "card type." A great example is Tarmogoyf. Tarmogoyf reads card types in the graveyard as creature, planeswalker, artifact etc. What the new M11 rules state is that creature, planeswalker, artifact, Land, and enchantment are all sub-types of permanent cards. In essence, they all fall under the umbrella of "permanent." This tag does not care about zone and thus Samurai will RFG then when they are dredged into the yard. Ask any certified judge and see what he/she says. Easier to just read; Whenever a card is placed into the GY from the Battlefield exile it.
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Eternal Formats / Null Rod Based Aggro / Re: G/W for 2010
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on: February 17, 2011, 03:58:19 pm
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Sorry, but straight up GW is, IMO, far superior and more consistent to GWB. Noble Fish runs FoW, Daze and Co. and is a totally different archetype so I will not even add it in here for comparison. GW does almost everything that GWB does, and has far superior consistency.
I am just convinced that no one here knows how to design a solid GW list. Either that, or none of the good beats deck designers are coming forth. Let me state some rules that I think apply to GW in general:
[GW beats truly is a deck that should play out a bit like MUD, but with the twist that it attacks decks with hate-bears that serve the role of lock-piece and win con. The only true Lock-piece + win con in MUD is Lodestone Golem. Anyway, instead of being just critical I will try to be helpful and post a list with some explanations:
4 Samurai of the Pale Curtain Amazingly underrated. Read the ruling on this guy. He stops Narcomoeba from even hitting play from the lib. Trust me. He does.
I'm not even claiming that this list is perfect at all, but I am claiming that it is far more focused on a single winning strategy. Disrupt mana + beat down. I am sorry if people are offended by my statements, but it is frustrating to see so many lists that appear to make the same fundamental mistakes. I want to see this archetype take off, but it will not as long as people are simply trying to play "fun" cards and not efficient or realistic cards.
Trust you on the ruling, eh? Pale curtain DOES NOT or ever will in any legal game stop any card that was not in play to begin with from going to the GY. It's bad to trust people.
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Eternal Formats / Null Rod Based Aggro / Re: G/W for 2010
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on: January 29, 2011, 03:24:31 pm
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I'm pretty sure that Samurai of the Pale Curtain does not exile cards that were not in play. Permanents are only permanents once they are on the battlefield.
Why is Revoker in there over Needle. Needle can at least name Bazaar.
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