One question regarding Fiery Temper,

When we compare it to Lightning Bolt, isn't Bolt superior?

When comparing, Temper is "only" better than Bolt with a Bazzar in play (+1 card advantage for Bazzar).

However, when Bazzar is the main draw engine in the deck, how often would it get wasted?

And had there been any trouble with Tempers 1RR cc in testing?

Thank you.

b-tings: I am comparing Jar to Wheel, to you, and 5c Stax, Jar might be bad. However, since vorman DID ran Wheel in his list, I am just wondering why he ran wheel instead of the Jar.

Well, We can compare the two from the posts above:

Memory Jar:
5 Mana, (colorless, shoppable, making it 3+2 mana), instant speed activation.
Wheel:
3 Mana, (red required, non-shoppable), socery speed.

Memory Jar:
With Welder, can be retarted.
Wheel:
One shot use.

Assuming Uba is out:

Memory Jar:
*Might* survive Rebuild. But return opponent's hand as well.
Wheel:
You die to Rebuild, however, get rid of opponent's hand.

Assuming Null Rod is out:

Memory Jar:
Another permenant for Smokestack.
Wheel:
Superior.

Any other points to add?

I am not saying that either one is superior or inferior, just discussing the possiblity of improvement of the deck.

On the other hand, if the deck were to splash green for crop/bond, what would the SB look like?

Since I haven't seen Memory Jar being mentioned anywhere yet, can it possibly replace Wheel?
It can use shop mana, is a permenant, can be welded in/out (which can possibly win the game this way), sort of dodges rebuild (artifacts can be replayed during the next few turns), and activates at instant speed.

Here are some small thoughts of mine on the deck.

About the Whisper vs Chains

Maybe we can run this:

4 Dark Confidant (instead of Whispers) (Yes, I know it's not even close to legal yet, but it's an idea, right? http://www.wizards.com/sideboard/images/mi05/dark_con.jpg)


3 Chains (or 4, whichever works)


And maybe the 4th Jitte for the life-gain to support the confidant.

And the deck will be able to draw under chains with confidant rather well, and we can even have multipuls confidants on board if needed since he's not a legend. On the plus side, the low mana curve of the deck should cause you to lose too much life from confidant anyways.

Just a thought.

No flaming please.

I had been toying this deck for about 2 months now, and I had made a few changes with the deck list, and I am going to bring this to a local tourney tomorrow, please wish me the best of luck.

The list:

Leviat.dec           -            Total 60 Cards

Mana (21)
    4 Flooded Strand
    2 Tundra
    1 Plains
    4 Island
    1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
    1 Mox Sapphire
    1 Mox Emerald
    1 Mox Ruby
    1 Mox Pearl
    1 Mox Jet
    1 Black Lotus
    1 Lotus Petal
    1 Sol Ring
    1 Library of Alexandria

Bazaar Engine (10)
    4 Bazaar of Baghdad
    3 Squee, Goblin Nabob
    3 Deep Analysis

Tutor (5)
    4 Intuition
    1 Mystical Tutor

Protection (12)
    4 Mana Drain
    4 Chalice of the Void
    4 Force of Will

Combo (9)
    4 Replenish
    1 Solitary Confinement
    1 Humility
    2 Form of the Dragon
    1 Decree of Silence

Misc Brokenness (3)
    1 Time Walk
    1 Balance
    1 Ancestral Recall

Sideboard (Still not perfect yet, but that should be the basics)
SB: 3 Sacred Ground
SB: 3 Seal of Cleansing
SB: 2 Aura of Silence
SB: 3 Arcane Laboratory
SB: 1 Solitary Confinement
SB: 3 Damping Matrix

And I will explain some of the choices in bold.

Boseiju - This deck does have a problem with control decks, and uncounterable Replenish usually means GG combined with Decree of Silence. It does have a problem with wastelands, however, but the wastelands should always hit the Bazaar or LoA first when you play those, and I usually used Bazaars as decoys late games (don't laugh, happened at least 10 times).
Also, a uncounterable Balance lategame is insanely good as well. (Better if you empty your hand with bazaars.)

Lotus Petal - This increase the chance of a first turn drain, possibly followed by turn 2 CotV, Intuition, or DA. But This does seem like the weakest card here.

CotV - This deck's worst match up is Combo IMO, and with almost no maindeck solutions, I turned to CotV. Against Storm Combo, we all set it to 1, and the only 3 1cc spells in the deck are VERY good on their own and can be ditched to the bazaar. Also, CotV can be set to 0, and with an active bazaar, we can ditch moxens, or set to 2, against oath and fish-a-likes, since the only card we lose are the drains. (Again, Bazaar is tech.)

What I cutted for those cards:

1 Yawgmoth's Bargain (The first card that I cutted, normally, a Decree is enough, and this was never THAT helpful because most of the time, when I get this into play, I am likely already winning.)
1 Fact or Fiction
3 Thirst for Knowledge (Draw vs CotV. With the uncounterable draw engine, I fear that there are too much draws but they are too slow, on the other hand, CotV generates insane card advantage compared to the FoF (3), TfK (1). It also disrupt your oppenent's plan and the deck have enough ways to get the cards we want into the graveyard. And thru testing, I really find that CotV is stronger in almost anyway.)

On the other hand, I sometimes wished I could have a main deck Disenchant/Seal of Cleansing, I was thinking about cutting  a Replenish, but I am not too sure.

Thanks and any questions, feel free to ask.

PS, if anyone sees me on MWSplay, my name is Sad..., so feel free to say hi. 

unfortunetly, the match was done before the error was spotted.
However, I will try to work out a compromise with Nibbles.

Thanks Kasuras!

I spotted an error on my list, can I fix it?

Thanks!

And you Banned my secret tech... (what a pity )

Now I can't go with turn 2 kills, but heh...

well then, count me in  

Oh, and can Myr Matrix count as a Myr?

so when is this?

send me a pm and i hope i can have the time to play in it.

thanks!

The Ontario Vintage Championships you say?   I will be there, look for me and let's see whose deck does better.  

I will work on my version and hopefully can fit 4 FoWs in there, but mine is quite different than yours, mine is more controlish (chant&stick).

And how come I can never find Dr4gons at those 401 tournies?  

We shall see...

http://www.mtgontario.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=541

Read Match 5 vs. Leo Ping (white weenie) (it's Ding btw)

Well, that's my deck (my build, my cards, not my basic lands ), but my cousin played it.

Any one want a deck list?

BTW, it's bugdet...

Mmmm... ps, isn't bebe in ontario too?

PPs, WW have no, 0, chance against TPS. (lose to them everytime.)

6th place, eh... not so bad...

Maybe i should switch Zephid to a Reactor..... for the WotW

But my name does start with a Z    mmm... I smell bonus just for using the Z... wait, i have the E too....... Yeah