Currently retooling my fish deck since I seem to be having some trouble against aggro workshop. The problem in the matchup is that it is almost impossible to deal with any threats they play in game 1 without double Lavamancer or Fire/Lavamancer. So what I want to know is, is E-bolt playable? It takes down Su-Chi, Juggernaut, Platinum Angel, Goblin Welder, everything in the mirror, everything FCG plays, kills man lands, and is mana efficient. We all know that Lavadart is playable now, and I am thinking in an aggro meta w/ lots of workshop and aggro decks it could be maindecked.

I'm Andrew, i've been playing magic since Ice Age, my first tournament was the Masques Prerelease, i'm 17 and poor yet have LongDeath done except for power. right now i'm playing alot with longdeath and fish but since i live in texas there isnt too much of a good field out here and there are no proxy tournaments i've been able to find so instead i draft alot and play type 2.

i copied the text on the card exactly from the one i got at the prerelease. you dont have to have a draw7 to make it good, thats just the best way to use it as it can turn a draw 7 into a draw 7 that you play again during your next turn. note that you have the face down pile and your hand. during your draw you draw as normal, you just add an additional card to the pile everytime you do draw a card. during your upkeep you can choose to switch these piles. this switch is permanent until your next upkeep when you can switch them back.

should have clarified on what type of efficiency, what i'm looking for is something that cuts the mana efficiency of consultation for the efficiency of not removing large chunks of your library from the game and gains the flexibility of being able to search for a non 4 of card w/o the risk of decking yourself.

i wasn't saying cut consultation for the mirror, just thinking the mirror had some possibilities. maybe the mirror belongs in another deck, not this one.

the reason that i was arguing against consultation was because the only real targets you can go for are: wish, ritual, land, brainstorm,  and duress. i dont think i'd ever cast it for a land, usually it is cast for a wish, but oftentimes i already have the wish and its just a dead card. don't get me wrong, i know demonic consultation is a good card, but the point of this thread was to try to find something that can find wish/other cards a bit more efficiently (even if at the cost of another 1-2 mana).

in most instances yes, but it just provides another choice. especially if u don't run colossus in the main or have already played/have in hand memory jar.

Well Living Wish is not the way to go, unless it's put in place of Crop Rotation and Academy moved to the board, but I really don't think that's a good idea.

I tested some more and Frantic Search doesn't seem to get the job done either.

What does everyone think of Moonring Mirror? In a way it is slightly similiar to Necropotence and also similiar to Memory Jar, but in no way as good as the real things. If you don't know what it does here it is:

Moonring Mirror          5
Artifact
Whenever you draw a card remove the top card of your library from the game face down.
At the beginning of your upkeep, you may remove your hand from the game face down. If you do, put into your hand all other cards you own removed from the game with Moonring Mirror.

The way I look at it is that you Tinker it out, play a draw7, remove the top 7 cards in your library from the game, play all relevant cards from your new hand, say go. Remove the useless hand from the game to draw the removed 7.

I'm still unsure about Demonic Consultation, but can't really think of any good replacements that actually put the card into your hand.

Well i've been playing Longdeath pretty much nonstop since the lists came up after Gencon, and one thing i've found is there is a slight problem with Demonic Consultation. Before anyone flames this, I know the card is good, but in a deck with so many 1 ofs it is very risky and most of them time I casted it I would be searching for a specific one of card to continue going off, or would much rather have another draw7 or perhaps another wish.

So my question is this, is Demonic Consultation nececassary in LongDeath? What could it be replaced with?

So far I'm thinking that either Living Wish or Frantic Search would be good in this slot. Living Wish would allow an additional way of getting around Null Rods and other hosers with Goblin Welder as well as for allowing recurring Memory Jar to set up for a game breaking Yawgmoth's Will in any long games. The free card draw of Frantic Search would also benefit the deck greatly, because oftentimes untapping one color producing mana source will mean the difference between going off or not.

raptor i'm in central texas. thanx for the tip sayer.

I'm looking for any T1 proxy tournaments coming up in the Austin/San Antonio TX area. The local scene in San Antonio is so small i have to drive to Bandera to go play T1, and even then they don't allow proxies.