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1  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / [New tech?] Gems from the junk bin presents: Mana Web on: September 15, 2004, 09:01:59 am
Yes, they can cast multiple spells in their first main phase.  But the beauty is that they will then have any colored lands tapped for the duration (combat tricks, 2nd main phase, etc) of their turn.  If they want to attack, and any spells happen during the attack phase, then they are screwed in their second main phase.  Also, if they cast anything on their turn, most likely, they will not be able to cast anything on your turn if they had wanted.
2  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Deck Discussion/ Optimizing Dragon on: July 30, 2004, 03:01:44 pm
If you want to be immune to Dampening Matrix, just run Caller.  Granted, I doubt anyone is seriously going to be running this much more complicated combo over the more traditional.
3  Eternal Formats / Creative / U/G Madness - Better with or without bazaars? on: April 30, 2004, 02:24:52 pm
I dunno, I played UG madness with bazaars at the most recent waterbury and I just didnt make enough good use of them.  As was previously mentioned, I think you need the other easily pitchable cards that red provides to make the bazaars really worth it.  If I didnt draw into some squees, the bazaars just didnt do much for me.
4  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / [Primer/Report] - Syrup Chugging Contest on: April 29, 2004, 10:35:04 pm
What's this "try" you speak of.   Gary and I pounded that shit like champs.   Cool
5  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / [Primer/Report] - Syrup Chugging Contest on: April 28, 2004, 06:15:43 pm
Derek, did any of the footage come out.  I have told a quite a few people of the exploits and they all were equally amused, and I'm sure they'd love to see the chuggers in action.
6  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / [Primer/Report] - Syrup Chugging Contest on: April 28, 2004, 08:01:13 am
Dyanna,

    Ya, I know you're with Samite, but when you're stuck in a room for MANY hours with a bunch of gamer guys, the few oases (plural of oasis?) of feminity in a room are not to be squandered.

And yes, you are cute.
7  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / [Primer/Report] - Syrup Chugging Contest on: April 27, 2004, 01:47:32 pm
Just for the record, I wasnt playing Sui Black at the tournament.   Cool
8  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / [Primer/Report] - Syrup Chugging Contest on: April 26, 2004, 01:31:39 pm
He does have a huge mouth, but with all those teeth, he's gotta worry about the cavities and the subsequent dentist bill, so I'm thinking it's favorable for the Syrup.   =)
9  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / [Primer/Report] - Syrup Chugging Contest on: April 26, 2004, 01:08:34 pm
Well, Waterbury was my second big T1 tournament since getting into the scene a couple months ago.  And as most noobs do (Memnarch not included cuz he did good, GO NOOBS GO) at these things, I scrubbed out with a solid 2-3-drop record.

But, lo and behold, redemption would be mine.  As it appeared that there would be a challenge held at this tournament that I am a bit more at home at:  The Syrup Chugging Contest.

Step 1 to winning the Syrup Chuggin Contest:  Fail to sign up for it

When it was announced, I was in the middle of a match, and by the time I was done and found the people who were running it, they had their 8 people signed up.  

Step 2: Convince yourself that $40 is not worth probably booting, and risking diabetic shock

Saddened by my failure to procure a birth, I made myself feel better by rationalizing to myself and friends that it just wouldnt be worth it.

Step 3: Arrive in time to watch the festivities and slide into the now emtpy 8 slot

As my morbid curiosity got the better of me, I gathered with the others to see the Syrup Slugging start.  But alas...there was a lone bottle without a champion.  All that rationalizing and logic and common sense went out the window as I stepped up to the plate with the other combatants.  

Step 3: Almost forget to chug your syrup as you stop to watch the cute girl chug her syrup

As the coordinator is getting ready to give the start signal, I decide now is the time to check out the cute girl in the contest so I wasted a precious half second of solid chugging time.

Step 4: SQUEEZE THE BOTTLE 4 TEH WIN

This is really the only step that actually will help you win a syrup chugging contest.  It was an old trick I picked up from my 2 liter soda chugging contest days.  Waiting for the viscous liquid to drain from the bottle into your mouth to be subsequently swallowed is just too darn slow.  You have to open up your throat and just force as much of this sludge down as fast as gravity and your forceful squeezing will send it.

Step 5: Slam that bottle down when you're done

OK, I lied, this is actually somewhat important as well, and caused a bit of controversy in the Syrup Chugging world.  Most chugging contests, be they beer, soda, other liquids, are culminated by the ceremonious slamming down of the empty vessel.  I was aware of this and did my duty when I was done slugging that syrup.  The other guy (Gary I believe was his name) who was also an experienced chugger was slow to slam down his empty bottle.  We both finished in comparable times (some people claimed I had beaten him, others claimed he had won, and lots were just so disgusted by these two fat guys chugging Shaws brand syrup that they didnt care who won and just said it was too close).

Step 6: Hold your Syrup

Damn, now that I'm actually writing this, I have more actual good ideas than I had orignally thought.  This is another gem to be remembered when entering any kind of eating/drinking/"extreme food" challenge.  This is not the kind of thing for the faint of stomach.  I think one guy set the record at 4 different bouts of booting.  I didnt boot all day.  The only time I almost got sick, was when I scratched my chin, which sports a pathetic attempt at a beard, and found the cache of syrup that had decided to take up residence on my face.  The smell almost got me.

That's pretty much it.  I hope it helps any future syrup chuggers.  I dont even know the name of the guy with the camera who was putting the whole thing together.  But, Gary and I split the prize and both got $20 worth of goodies from Jeff (Samite Healer)'s booth.  

There was talk of a sudden death chug off, and Gary and I both agreed to this arrangement, as people of our idiocy and girth usually do when the title of "Biggest Jackass who can eat/drink a lot of crap" is on the line.  Unfortunately, the second round of syrup took a little too long to arrive, and the adrenaline had worn off.  Gary had gotten sick, and I was feeling quite loopy.  I did offer to have a chug-off with anyone else who wanted to step up to the plate, but I have to say...I was not unpleased that no one took up the challenge.  Those 36 oz (cuz the 24 oz bottles in the first round apparently werent large enough) bottles of syrup sitting on the side tables haunted the rest of my day.  

All in all, I had a great day, and wanted to thank Ray and everyone who helped him run the day, as well as the great T1 people that showed up.  

-Krizzyn
10  Eternal Formats / Creative / Oath of Druids - the forgotten combo control deck? on: April 13, 2004, 02:29:08 pm
@Kowal
What recursion are you referring to in his build?  I dont see a blessing for him, so he's not going to be able to recur anything.  He looks like he's basically praying for his opponent to put out a creature so he can tear thru his deck and have a big fat cognivore.  Of course, this would be happening on his turn and then he would have to be able to protect it for a turn.
@jshields
I dont see how this is good vs dragon as they're never going to trigger your oath until they have either 1 billion bears or you have no deck (and you have no blessing).  I suppose the large counter base and stifles are a good thing but you have to be able to kill them too.
11  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Does Stifle have a place in hulk's sideboard ? on: March 24, 2004, 01:55:26 pm
If you're main concern is vs the slaver matchup, the Stifle isnt going to do anything but either :

A) Stop the slaver for possibly 1 turn (assuming they dont have an active welder and enough mana to activate again)

or

B) Stop the welder from bring the slaver back for 1 turn (again, assuming they only have 1 active slaver)

Yes, if you are going to win the next turn, Stifle is fine, but I think your better alternatives are to remove the threat complete rather than just stall.  You are going to get slaved a lot more when you arent ready to smash face next turn that when you are ready.
12  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Noob Dual Lotus Report on: March 23, 2004, 09:27:15 am
TheAdv: Ya, looking back, that would have definately been the play to make.  I was worried about something happening, and figured if the Stroke got countered, I could then still keep animating and use the bazaar to go get Laquatus.  Honestly, it was just my lack of experience with T1, and totally forgetting about Misdirection as a card  Sad .  He was representing the Stifle, but then when he didnt use it, I figured he had some kind of counter that he was figuring out how to use properly.  I also knew he had an Interdict in hand, but knew that wasnt going to really help him.

As I mentioned, I know I made play mistakes, but they needed to be made to be learned from.  Can only get so good goldfishing and playing vs momos on mws, at some point you gotta bite the bullet and take your lumps.
13  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / [Report] TMD n00b @ Dual Lotus in CT 3/20/04-3/21/04 on: March 22, 2004, 04:12:19 pm
Bill's got the right of it.  If you're really that worried about, that's the way to make sure it doesnt happen.  But....that's a wicked pain in the ass, and most people would rather go through 99% of their game w/o all the BS crap.  This is why people are cool, and when something happens out of the norm, we all know to back up, do what needed doing, etc.  

I'm pretty sure this is more the feeling that most people are conveying when they heard about the whole Vamp Tutor thing.  Everyone would much rather that we all play nice, and when something comes up, assuming the rules dont require something be done a certain way, we all are gentlemen (and ladies occasionally, hey I've seen a couple at tourneys) and handle things in a nice, reasonable, fair manner.
14  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Noob Dual Lotus Report on: March 22, 2004, 04:06:13 pm
Ya, at the time we both were being morons, but later it was all made clear, thought I had conveyed that with my little parenthetical insertions.  Ah well, live and learn.
15  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Noob Dual Lotus Report on: March 22, 2004, 12:32:03 pm
Inspired by reading a few other reports, I'll post mine.  I didnt take any notes, but am fairly retentive, so I apologize for lack of names.

Spent the previous night drinking quite a few beers and watching quite a bit of college basketball with some friends.  Woke up around 9 when Zhindel (13th place finisher guy) calls to tell me he'll be at my place around 10 to head over to tourney.  He shows up around 10:45, we grab some local food (Steve's Place in Newington 4 the win) and get to the KoC around 11ish.  I feel for all you MA/NYC people who drove so far, I was definately happy to live about 5 mins away from the tourney.  I was close to offering a few of you a place to crash for the night at the end of the tourney, but not really knowing anyone, I didnt wanna get shanked in my sleep, or have people worried I would shank them in their sleep  Razz

I've been a strictly T2 player for a couple years now, but I'm getting into T1.  All I can say is I have awesome friends who loaned me a shit ton of cards for my deck.  I'm working on getting my own cards, but that'll take a little time.

I help out Stok a bit being a local, helping him track down a local pizza joint and trying to help some people on the phone find the tournament in time to play.

Decklist:   Dragon

4 Bazaar
4 Dragon
4 Squee
1 Laquatus
3 Cunning Wish

3 Animate Dead
3 Necromancy

4 Xantid Swarm
2 Stifle
2 Pernicious Deed

4 Underground Sea
2 Tropical Forest
1 Bayou
1 Island
1 Swamp
4 Polluted Delta
1 Sol Ring
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Emerald
1 Black Lotus
1 Mana Crypt

4 Intuition
2 Lim-Dul's Vautl
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutot

SB
2 Stifle
2 Pernicious Deed
2 Coffin Purge
2 Null Rod
1 Caller of the Claw
1 Verdant Force
1 Blue Elem Blast
1 Diabolic Edict
1 Rushing River
1 Oxidize
1 Stroke of Genius

Round 1 vs Kenton playing Standstill

Game 1: I know Kenton from some local tournies, we BS a bit about playing someone we know first round in 168 player field.  He counters a bunch of stuff, but eventually I animate the dragon and stroke him out.

Game 2: Funny game.  The turn I'm gonna go off he has standsill out.  I drop my lotus breaking the standstill, and like the noob to T1 I am, I attempt to Stifle the Standstill (at the time, not understanding this would trigger the Standstill again).  He responds by Mana Draining my Stifle (apparently he was as confused to the Standstill rules as I was).  That resolves, and he draws his cards.  Undaunted, I animate the dragon with a sole Cunning Wish in my hand.  He's fingering his mana, and reading the Dragon, so I can only assume he's holding Stifle.  I go through the montions a few times, he doesnt insert anything onto the stack, so I tell him I'm gonna do that till I have 100 mana and ask him if he'd like to stop me at any time.  He doesnt, so I play out the Wish, grab my Stroke, and he misdirects it back at me.

Turns out he did have the Stifle, but didnt understand the Dragons abils correctly and was worried about not having any way to deal with the 7/7 flier.  If I had just bazaared till I had Laquatus I would have been able to sneak that by.  I happily explained how the Dragon's abils work after the game so he knows how to deal with it next time.

Game 3: He counters all my important things and then smacks me with some angels he made off a couple drains.

Record : 0-1

Round 2a vs Some Guy playing a Metalworkers and big artifacts

Game 1: He gets out turn 1 Metalworker and drops a Jugg next turn which starts smashing face. I cast my deed, and take some more beats.  He enters his next attack phase and I pop deed for 4 wiping his board except a couple lands, he taps metalworker in response, but burns as he's in his combat phase.  He lays a trike and smacks me once before I find my animation and stroke him out.

Game 2: He again gets turn 1 Metalworker, but I drop turn 1 Null rod.  This pretty much seals the game.  A few turns later I animate the dragon and he tries to use his Tormod's Crypt.  I point to the Rod and we shake up.

Record : 1-1

Round 2B vs Kid playing WB Control

Game 1: My noobness shines again as I forgot to bring Squee back to my hand, and then...forgot to attack with my Swarm before going for the dragon, which he promptly STP's RFG'ing my board.  Factory beats 4 the win do me in.

Game 2: I animate the dragon real quick.

Game 3: I play swarm, he STP's.  He kills a bunch of my lands with Sinkholes.  I build back up while he's failing to draw much mana, and I drop another swarm and bazaar.  He taps out to Vindicate my swarm.  I LD Vault end step and set myself up with vamp on top with a intuition under it.  At this point I have no animation in hand, no dragon in the yard, and no hand.  I bring 2 Squees to hand, draw my vamp, and decide to go for it while he's tapped out rather than waiting to draw my Intuition.  I vamp up a dragon, put it on top, turn my bazaar sideways and peek below the dragon....Necromancy, boyaa.  Go go gadget lucksaq.

Record : 1-1

Round 3 vs Steven Johnson playing Budget Dragon

Steve's another guy I know from local stores, good kid.  I feel kinda bad cuz I'm running power that isnt mine to play, and he's running pretty unpowered and playing the same thing.

Game 1: Bazaar > Putrid imp, Black Lotus > Lotus Petal, I animate faster than he does.

Game 2:  I SB out 2 dragons, bring in a couple more stifles.  He drops first turn Putrid Imp off his Jet, drops the dragon and Laquatus in his yard, and drops a wasteland.  I draw, see my lotus, and necromancy and then pray that somewhere in the rest of my cards is a fetch, or one of my basic lands...but all I see are underground seas, and trops.  I drop my sea, my lotus, sac for necromancy.  Steve at this point seems a bit dejected, shows me the naturalize in his hand, and as he's about to drop his hand and to shake mine, he sees his wasteland.  He wastes my Sea, so I just animate the good ambassador.  He doesnt see much else, and a couple turns later I see an animate dead and really kill him.

Record : 2-1

At this point, I help out Stok some more by going to pick up the Pizzas for him.  This took quite a bit of doing as I have a decently sized car, but it's no truck or anything, and he's ordered 25 sheet pizzas.  I do some shuffling of crap in my car and amazingly get em all in there.  I only have to stop twice to re-adjust so I'm not wearing pizza when I return.  I get back, the lines form for hot pie, and Andy asks me where the napkins/plates are.  I kind of shrug, and grab Zhindel and we go back to the pizza joint where they hand us 2 stacks of 500 napkins.  There was much rejoicing and pizza eaten.

Round 4 vs Rob ZZZZZ playing FCG

Game 1: He beats face while I dig for combo pieces that just dont want to show up.

Game 2:  I keep a bad hand, and he does broken things attacking for 24 on turn 3.  Goblin Lackey = good.

Record : 2-2

Round 5 vs Mike (Welder Kid from local store) playing TnT

I somewhat curse my luck at having now played the 3rd person I know in the tourney.

Game 1: He drops some welders, an elf replica, and a Blood Moon that ruins my day, and continues to swing with them while I keep digging for a mox or my basic island, my deck hates me.

Game 2: I SB as if he's playing one of the slaver builds having seen welders and not a whole lot else.  This time he doesnt see much land, and after a few turns I animate the dragon, then find his friend the caller and make a crapload of bears.  He tries to use the force on his deck to make it give him the 1 card that will help him, but it doesnt and I win.

Game 3: At this point, I still havent seen anything that makes me thing he's not playing a Slaver build, but that changes quickly.  He drops a workshop starts firing out threats and hate.  Jugg is joined by his friend Jens and they swing a few turns.  Double ground seal and tormod's crypt hit his side.  My noobness bites me in the ass again as I neglect to bring back 2 Squees, so I dont end up digging to find the land that would have let me drop the deed while I still had some life to give.

Record : 2-3

Round 6 vs guy playing semi-Sui Black

Game 1: Hymn grabs my gas, and Pox eats my third land.  I dont see another land and die to beats holding Wish, and a few Intuitions.

Game 2: I set myself up nicely early, and he is kind enough to Hymn my Laquatus and Dragon away.  We play a bit of draw-go for a while, and I start digging with bazaar + squees.  He puts out a Jugg, I deed it, he puts out a Hypnotic, I deed it, he puts out another hypnotic....damn.  I see everything in my deck that doesnt involve drawing more cards, or animating dead things, and eventually die to specter + some other beater beats.

Record : 2-4

Round 7 vs No show guy playing crappy 0 card deck

Game 1: I win, yay!

Game 2: I win, yay!

Record : 3-4

I stuck around to watch the T8, and that was very interesting to see, and was quite informative.  I also got to watch Smemnarch smack our friend Anthony around with his Slaver deck for fun.  Good times.

I didnt do very well, but I had a lot of fun, met some very cool people, and learned a whole lot.  I think the most important thing I learned was what Anthony had told me earlier...."Take your time".  It's so easy to overlook things, and make little mistakes that are much bigger than they would be in a T2 environment.  

I'm looking forward to playing at more events in the future, hopefully with my own power and other cards then.

Props :
- 5 minute drive, you are so zesty at 2:30 AM when the tournament is over
- Everyone who showed up
- Worldgorger Dragon for being you
- Stok for giving refunds when the rounds got messed up

Slops :
- The round that wasnt, I felt bad for ppl who turned wins into losses
- The pizza place for not giving me napkins when I first showed up and not having any plates when I went back.
16  Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / Suicide decks on: January 21, 2004, 04:11:15 pm
Wall of blood.  Can be powerd out by dark rit, lotus.  Once it hit's the table, you're done.
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