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1  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / [Article] Forsythe & the B/R on: March 07, 2005, 03:44:27 pm
Quote from: Toad

We had a single Regionals in France so far. Top10 (that is 750 cards) lists 26 rares from CHK block. With 8 Kokushos. That's hardly significant and can't really be considered as a "fair amount of action". Most of the T2 decks are Mirrodin Block decks at the moment (Ravager, Tooth and Nails, Big Red, Death Cloud) with small additions from Kamigawa Block, usually commons and uncommons (Sakura Tribe Elder, Sensei Divining Top, Hearth Kami).

Kamigawa Block sales are *really* low when compared to Mirrodin Block or even Onslaught Block. No Kamigawa Block archetype has emerged.


That is assuming of course that constructed events drive pack sales.  Though I do not have anything to back up my assertion, I would be willing to bet that contstructed formats don't drive sales at all.  Limited events however are a big driver and in my opinion, and one that I have seen others express as well, CHK draft is a lot more fun than MD5 and OLS ever were.
2  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / New B&R List on: March 01, 2005, 03:20:06 pm
Quote from: Smmenen
Quote from: smilerz

As for the impending combo doom, the storm-based decks have not changed (with the exception of further restrictions) since 3Sphere was printed.  So if pre-3Sphere combo looks exactly like post-3Sphere-restriction combo, why is there a new level of concern?


I'll answer that indirectly.

Take Mana Drain decks.  Psychatog decks basically went away becuase of Fish and Crucible/3Sphere.  The Drain decks that survived are those that were able to compete with that ramped up power level: certain Oath builds and Control/Goth Slaver.  Restriction does not unwind the clock becuase the decks that you are left with are the product of a dialectic.  They are more powerful than before the dialectic began.  See my point?


That seems to be a metagame concern and not necessarily one of unchecked powerlevel.  If combo increases in prevalence and Fish can't keep it in check, wouldn't it necessarily follow that people will forgo playing Fish in favor of Psychatog to match the increase in combo decks?  While the metagame has changed over the time in question, the cards are essentially the same so a new dominance of combo now doesn't make sense to me when it didn't dominate before.  It is possible that Crucible adds just enough change in the metagame to make Psychatog decks unplayable, but developing a Crucible-proof psycatog deck shouldn't be a huge hurdle to overcome.

@Zherbus:  I'm probalby just really dense, but why the delay in making Poral legal?  I don't see what it is you are hinting at.
3  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / New B&R List on: March 01, 2005, 02:24:50 pm
Quote from: Smmenen
To be fair though, alot of people have alot of reason to be pretty upset.  Good Reason.   This is not Berserk.  Berserk was completely misunderstood in terms of its potential application.    If you scroll back and read the thread on berserk (which I participated, so I remember), you'll see that.  There is reason to suggest that this may be a huge mistake.  They have restricted a card now in this format based on interaction concerns entirely, and not dominance or distortion.  If Workshop decks fall out of the format almost entirely, which given their trend on Sylvan's statistics is the logical prediction, the format will rapidly consolidate and shift.  Those shifts can lead to a restriction cascade.   I'm not saying they will, but there is good, rationale, logical reasons for suggesting that it might.  The risk is there.  I'm not saying it will happen immediately, but a decision has been made which could trigger long term ramifications that are not good.  We should be aware of those risks and realize them now so that we can monitor the outcome.


If the format actually does degenerate into the world that you envision, which I find a little far-fetched, is there anything from recognizing the balancing factor of 3Sphere and unrestricting it?

As for the impending combo doom, the storm-based decks have not changed (with the exception of further restrictions) since 3Sphere was printed.  So if pre-3Sphere combo looks exactly like post-3Sphere-restriction combo, why is there a new level of concern?
4  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / [Deck] Meandeck Tendrils on: January 28, 2005, 03:24:34 pm
Quote from: Saucemaster

Mostly I'm just intrigued by the fact that you seem to be playing the deck a little differently than I do; I usually find that the limiting factor in my play of the deck is mana, not storm count or the number of cards I see.  I was mostly just surprised that I didn't see Lotus at the top of your list.


I know that earlier you stated that you liked Night Whisper because you draw two cards off it.  Ever thought about trying Plunge into Darkness?  It can serve as a redundant Spoils that can't kill you, and even though it only replaces itself, you should be able to dig deep enough to always find a DR or Cabal Ritual.
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