1. What do you predict the turnout to be? 411
2. How many Force of Wills do you expect to see in the Top 8? 24
3. How many Wastelands in the Top 8? 7
4. In the top 8, what will be the most popular:
a. Blue card: Brainstorm
b. White card: Swords to Plowshares
c. Green card: Protean Hulk
d. Red card: Simian Spirit Guide
e. Black card: Duress
f. Gold card: Meddling Mage
g. artifact: Lotus Petal
h. non-land card (most popular of 4a-g): Brainstorm
5. What's going to be the highest placing combination deck? Hulk Flash
6. What's the most common basic land type in the Top 8? Island
7. What's the most common dual land in the Top 8? Underground Sea
8. Goblins in the T8? (yes or no) No
9. Hulk Flash in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
10. Threshold (UWG) in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
11. Threshold (URG) in the T8? (yes or no) No
12. Survival.dec in the T8? (yes or no) No
13. High Tide in the T8? (yes or no) No
14. Landstill in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
15. BW Deadguy Ale (Disruption) in the T8? (yes or no) No
16. Gamekeepers/Salvagers in the T8? (yes or no) Yes

BONUS
17. _______Hulk Flash_______ [deck] will take first place.
18. Who will win: Pro or Not? Not
19. The winner will be: ______David Gearhart________. (Specific player name)

Thank you for your concise answers!
They helped a lot.
I believe some "I told you so's" are in order.

If I say, suspend an

Ancestral Vision
Ancestral Vision is blue. Suspend 4--U (Rather than play this card from your hand, pay U and remove it from the game with four time counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter. When you remove the last, play it without paying its mana cost.) Target player draws three cards.

and my opponent has a Trinisphere in play, do they have to pay 3 mana when all time counters are removed?

My opinion is that yes, you do have to pay 3 mana, in a similar manner to how Mind's Desire and Isochron Scepter interact with Trinisphere.

Thanks.

Thanks, this confirms what I thought.
Please lock at will.

Hi there,


Here is the scenario:

I have a Necropotence in play and have cast Yawgmoth's Will this turn.
I have 0 cards in my hand.
I have a Soul Spike in my graveyard

Soul Spike

You may remove two black cards in your hand from the game rather than pay Soul Spike's mana cost.
Soul Spike deals 4 damage to target creature or player and you gain 4 life.

I pay 7 life for Necropotence and proceed to the end step.

Can I use Yawgmoth's will to cast the Soul Spike from my graveyard, removing 2 black cards I drew from my Necropotence?
I know that I can cast a Soul Spike off Yawg's Will by removing cards in my hand, but will I be able to remove cards that I drew off Necropotence?

Thanks,

Grim.

Yeah a mod can close this if they like, apparently I am not allowed to do so myself.

Cheers

Would you play impulse if it dug for 5 cards instead of 4?
This is essentially what Time Spiral's Truth or Tale does.
My question to you is does this card have merit in type one/legacy?
If so, what decks would it possibly be utilized in?



In my opinion, it may replace some of the cantrips in Grow.
Its too bad that it doesn't send them to your GY, so its useless for tog

This deck is a lot of fun and I'm trying to throw together a budget version.
Can anyone suggest a replacement for Bazaars? Even if i have to splash another color?

Thanks in advance,

Grim

What do you think I should remove for some card draw?

I think 18 lands would be the ideal number here, there are only 12 spells which cost 3 mana, and nothing any higher.

The enchantments are far superior to creatures in terms of island conversion. The creatures allow my opponent to play instants in response to their abilities being used every upkeep. This doesnt happen with say, phantasmal terrain.

That being said, I will DEFFINITELY consider Quicksilver Fountain as a replacement to one set of four. Thank you for bringing this card to my attention, as it greatly helps the soft lock! The only downside is the 3cc, but that can be altered by adding more land.

The problem with brainstorm, impulse, and AK is that they are simply cantrips 99% of the time. FoF is too expensive for this deck.

With the soft lock in place, perhaps Meditate could be used? Losing a turn wouldn't really matter that much with say, a Quicksilver Fountain in play.

This is a casual deck based around the idea of really pissing your opponent off by making all of their lands into islands. Place land enchantments on all thier lands and use the land-conversion creatures during their upkeep. Beat down with amazingly efficient creatures for the win! Obviously, this deck is completely useless against decks that use islands, so I have a sideboard which contains volcanic islands and tons of blue-hate.

This deck NEEDS some sort of card draw but I can't find anywhere to fit it in. I might remove Veiled Serpant but it's so damn good here. It also might be a little bit land light, I'd like to get up to 18 lands with a couple more fetches.

Another thing I'd like to fit in is some sort of removal. I have no idea where to start so i'd like some help here please.

Dandan.dec

Land

Island 12
Polluted Delta 4

Optimized Creatures


Seasinger 4  Creature - Merfolk 1UU 0/1 When you control no islands, sacrifice Seasinger. You may choose not to untap Seasinger during your untap step. T: Gain control of target creature whose controller controls an island as long as you control Seasinger and as long as Seasinger remains tapped.

Reef Shaman 4  Creature - Merfolk U 0/2 T: Target land's type becomes the basic land type of your choice until end of turn.

Tidal Warrior 4   Creature - Merfolk U 1/1 T: Target land becomes an island until end of turn.

Dandan 4  Creature - Dandan UU 4/1 Dandan can't attack unless defending player controls an island. When you control no islands, sacrifice Dandan.

Manta Ray 4  Creature - Fish 1UU 3/3 Manta Ray can't attack unless defending player controls an island. Manta Ray can't be blocked except by blue creatures. When you control no islands, sacrifice Manta Ray.

Veiled Serpent 4   Enchantment 2U   When an opponent plays a spell, if Veiled Serpent is an enchantment, Veiled Serpent becomes a 4/4 Serpent creature. It can't attack unless defending player controls an island. Cycling 2 (2, Discard this card from your hand: Draw a card.)

Countermagic


Counterspell 4   
 
Force of Will 4   
 

Island Ho!

Lingering Mirage 4  Enchant Land 1U   Enchanted land is an island. Cycling 2 (2, Discard this card from your hand: Draw a card.)

Sea's Claim 4  Enchant Land U   Enchanted land is an island.

Phantasmal Terrain 4  Enchant Land UU   As Phantasmal Terrain comes into play, choose a basic land type. Enchanted land's type is the chosen type.

SB
4 Volcanic Island
4 Red Elemental Blast
4 Pyroblast
3 Something that owns Blue

Creature Analysis


Dandan
The Heart and Soul of the deck. Two mana for a 4/1 beatstick with no downside here. Good stuff.

Seasinger
This is the only deck on the planet that can make efficient use of this card. She allows you to steal any dirty little creatures which your opponent is able to cast.

Tidal Warrior + Reef Shaman
Complement the enchantments which change lands into islands.

Manta Ray
Unblockable 3/3 for 3. Enough Said.

Veiled Serpant
Three mana for a 4/4 with no drawback is nothing to laugh at. The condition which must be met is hardly troublesome. Very good.

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So basically this deck needs 3 things:
-Removal
-Draw
-Increased land by two? Testing seems random, sometimes I can't draw a third land while other times I get flooded

Any advice is always appreciated, please enjoy my original deck!

-The Grim Reaper

Wow Ephraim, you're right! This card does nothing except draw a card...

I'd like to request that this thread be locked now as this card is useless and doesn't seem to have any further inspiration.

Thanks,

Grim

Goblins Inquisition
1R
Sorcery
Search your library for a card at random.
Put that card into your hand.
What happened?!

I think this card would be a lot of fun to play. It doesnt seem undercosted at 2 mana due to its randomness.

Perhaps it should be costed at RR to prevent splashing.
Also - I can't think of any flavour text.

Tell me what you guys think!

2 words:

Holy crap!

This has potential use in almost any deck. It is very very very powerful and discussion and testing must begin immediately! I'm going to try to work this into draw7 and others.

Discuss!

Edit: Just saw post in community forum, but here Basic Members can discuss this card.

Shouldn't this be "Whenever a creature your opponent controls" and not "Whenever a creature you don't control"?

Holy crap this is the day we've all been waiting for! They finally made T1 and 1.5 different b/r lists! Unrestrictions are great! Yay!!

Have fun casting that Recall with colorless mana somehow

I think this card has potential, but we should wait until the entire set is released before we do any testing.

I would recommend the following:

-1 Daze
-2 Fire/ice
-1 Stifle

+4 CURIOSITY.

Fish really, really, REALLY needs curiosity to function. Without it, fish must rely on standstill as its only card drawing. This simply will not do. Curiosity is a very powerful card here. I would even remove standstills for them. Just add the fire/ice's to the sideboard and please use this card!

Hullo thar Adrian,

For a more stable manabase, I would recommend dropping the 2 Ancient Tombs and the random Shivan Reef for 3 more fetchlands. You have enough acceleration to not run the tombs and I have no idea what the reef is for. (Sundering titans maybe?)

Also, the single Mindslaver is kinda random, but you do seem to have an excessive amount of draw.

I'll post more tomorrow, its really late here and I can barely keep my eyes open.

-Bryn J.

I would like to know why you only run one Eternal Witness. Is it just there to fetch a countered crucible? This deck seems to pack a lot of neat tricks like Rootmaze and Crucible, but no real substantial threats. If someone plays a large creature against you, there is almost nothing you can do! I realize the huge amount of mana denial is there to prevent your opponent from playing large threats, but you would lose to scrubby aggro with this deck.

However - I like the general idea behind the 4 engines used in this deck:

Survival + Squee
Crucible + Wastes
Symbiote + Elves
Skullclamp + Creatures

Looks like a blast to play, I shall do some testing on MWS!

Yes. You hit the nail on the head.

I am going to have to agree with Shock Wave here. I don't like any card that can be put in to almost any deck and allow you to win 90% of the time its resolves. Games should never come down to "Who can resolve <card> first" and proceed to win the game.

I'm undecided on whether it should be restricted or not, but the number of decks Crucible is showing up in is quite alarming to me. At first only workshops decks were running it, but now it's being thrown into every deck imaginable in quantities of 2-3 at least!

This is NOT a fun card to play against.

This deck needs Bazaar of Bagdad. You're already running the squees, why not run a powerful draw engine along with them? Also good with krovikan horror!

I'm not sure what you should remove though...

Can anyone think of any sorceries that cost 1 mana? I'm having trouble. The only one I can think of is gamble

It should be:

Imprint -- If a card would be put into your graveyard from play, remove it from the game instead and imprint it onto Recycling Bin.

It seems like whenever I try to play type 1 on MWS, its another fish deck I'm up against. (I'm also playing fish). The mirror match is extremely intense and usually comes down to who gets the first active lavamancer. A sideboard with Crucible, REB, and Fire/ice would deffinitely help against fish.

Wasn't fish once considered a Tier 2 deck? Well, It appears now is the time for it to shine until some other deck comes along to smash it.

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Actually I beleive Stifle is best when used against the Ringleaders in FCG. After they stack their deck and go for the win, simply stifle the triggered ability and laugh as they topdeck nothing for several turns

 :shock: Wow that's really cool! I didn't know other people besides Wizards employees were allowed to right for mtg.com. Props to Smmenen for righting such an awesome article.
(BTW there are a lot of spelling errors in the card names )