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Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / Re: Revenge of the Cyborgs (Equipment deck)
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on: December 10, 2005, 05:13:25 pm
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Have you thought about umezawe's jitte? it turns boros into a two turn clock when you remove counters before each strike. Something you should look into. Also, instead of skullclamp have you thought about the possibility of mask of memory? Again, with boros you're looking at four new cards a turn without paying any mana accept the cost of the cards and one to equip. Just some ideas. Your deck looks pretty fun.
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Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: Black Fish
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on: November 16, 2005, 12:52:14 am
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Last I checked null rod was targetable by a welder. But it seems the deck doesn't work. I was just testing the waters of innovation. Apparently the test was a failure, lol.
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Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: Black Fish
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on: November 12, 2005, 11:22:01 pm
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Sorry, I meant to run 5 strip affects when I first started creating the deck. I'll make an edit, but I may have to drop the rituals.
@Kras:
Firestorm: As an additional cost to play Firestorm, discard X cards from your hand. Firestorm deals X damage to each of X target creatures and/or players.
Note that it is X TARGET creatures. Thus you can target just their creatures or burn them to the face while dropping some artifact fat to evade some casting costs.
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Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: Black Fish
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on: November 11, 2005, 04:50:25 pm
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I like the idea of a red splash to help against artifacts. However, the deck that I have in mind has a different strategy of artifact control/removal i.e. goblin welder. In a recent article written by Brian DeMars he stated the shear power of goblin welder in conjunction with mox monkey vs. any other artifact based deck (stax and CS the strongest decks in the format right now) The red splash variation on the black fish that I propose uses welder both as a defensive tool against artifacts in conjunction with shaman, but also as an offensive tool to cheat equipment costs and bring out powerful artifacts.
14 Creatures 4 Mox Monkey 3 Goblin Welder 4 Withered Wretch 3 Mesmeric Fiend
2 Artifact Creature 2 Duplicant (against DSC instead of welding him out)
7 Disruption 4 Duress 2 Cabal Therapy R Mind Twist
7 Artifact/equipment 2 Jitte 3 Mask of Memory (helps dump artifacts and draws cards) 2 Crucible of Worlds
4 toolbox R Entomb (welder+entomb=tutor) R Yawg Will R Demonic Tutor R Vampiric Tutor
3 Target Removal/artifact drop 3 Firestorm (unbelievable target removal vs Welder and The Mirror)
23 Mana Base R Strip Mine 3 Wasteland 8 SoLoMoxenCrypt 4 Bloodstained Mire 4 Badlands 1 Barbarian Ring (more removal) 1 Swamp 1 Mountain
It's just an idea. I know that the deck lacks the draw power it may need and does not run chains in it's place. But I think it has a lot of answers and could possibly stand a chance against some of the decks that are out there. But then again, what do I know?
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Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: Black Fish
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on: October 21, 2005, 04:29:39 pm
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With the inclusion of dark confidant, tutors like imperial seal and vampric tutor lose a lot of their drawback. Perhaps they deserve a spot along side the confidant in the builds that used him. Just a thought.
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Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: Turn 3 Fish Kills
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on: October 17, 2005, 10:33:39 pm
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OK, so this is my first post/response ever. But I've been playing magic since 4th edition and reading about vintage magic on TMD for over a year, and obviously playing.
All that aside, here's a possible suggestion. Why don't you try pairing the extract/thief combo with some black duress action. That way if they got it in hand, you can make them discard it. If they tutor it up (assuming you didn't ditch their tutor) you can make them discard it. And if it's in their deck you can remove it. Seems pretty logical to me. A deck with some serious duress effects i.e. mesmeric fiend, cabal therapy, duress (duh), and unmask (to help make sure you destroy their hand EARLY and use mana on destroying their deck) and the thief/extract combo would seem pretty interesting. Clearly you wouldn't use ALL of the above duress effects, but they all fit into a possible blue/black heavy disruption vial phish sort of deck.
Just something to think about from a TMD "newbie"
Peace & Love.
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