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1  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: G/W beats||control vintage on: March 19, 2006, 01:40:31 pm
Metagame was alot of stacks, some gifts, ALOT of fish(fishesq), and goblins some goblins goddanm goblins. 35 people. proxy 10 + 50c for each additional.

Opponent 1: I play affinity, lol, drop kataki. Then game 2 i win by viridian shaman double rancor.

Opponent 2: Fish, lose game 1, he gets a fast crucible out. THe other games we kinda stall each other out and i break trhough with some beats. He named wild mongrel when i had STPs in hand 3 time so i got lucky.

Opponent 3: My friend lol he lent me alot of the cards. He plays zombies, not a good matchup, i beat him tough after losing game 1.

Opponent 4: My other friend who lent me cards. Plays R/G/w Beats i beat him really quickly. We also both put in ground seals so we can cycle them, lol danm useless null rods.

5 & 6 ID.

Top 8 Quarters

Stacks: game 1: i keep a wasteland esg hand and play null rod turn one, he gets crucible strip mine fast, i deserve to lose for keeping.

game 2: He gets a smoestack out fast but only after i get a mongrel rancor out aswell as a root maze.

game 3: he gets a slow draw but i cant do anythign as he makes it smokestack for 2 and triskelion aways my board.

Gonna try to work in serenities and sacred grounds Smile so i can beat crucible wasteland.
2  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: G/W beats||control vintage on: March 19, 2006, 12:07:46 pm
Played the following deck this weekeend, MADE TOP 8. Around 35 people me and my friends went undfieted except against each other he was playing a  r/w/g version of this. Then we both scrub in top 8 lol.

Main

4 Icatian Javelineers
3 Kami of Ancient Law
3 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
4 Basking Rootwalla
4 Wild Mongrel
3 Kataki, War's Wage
2 Elvish Spirit Guide

4 Rancor
4 Root Maze
4 Swords to Plowshares
3 Null Rod (proxy)
1 Black Lotus (proxy)
1 Mox Emerald (proxy)
1 Mox Pearl (proxy)

4 Savannah
4 Windswept Heath
1 Pendelhaven
4 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
3 Plains
2 Forest


SIdeBoard

3 Rays of revelation
3 ground seal
1 null rod
2 Chokes
2 Oxidize
2 Karakas
1 Viridian Shaman
1 Uktabi Orangutan

Things i notice: need sacred grounds, grond seal not so good, question: need tormads crypt x2?
3  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: G/W beats||control vintage on: March 14, 2006, 11:15:28 am
oops when i said tps i meant gifts too :S

also ur sideboard seems kinda goofy Razz (rule of law bah)
4  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: G/W beats||control vintage on: March 13, 2006, 01:54:29 am
true believers arent a big deal for me, in my area there are very few long players, :S but there are enoguh TPS players hmmm i donno
5  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: [Card discussion] 'Castigate' from guildpact on: March 09, 2006, 03:07:29 pm
In this deck gerrards verdict may be better then castigate
6  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: G/W beats||control vintage on: March 09, 2006, 02:57:18 pm
to be honost i think the only green card worth splashing is Root Maze. So i don't know if this version of suppression field will be very succesful at all.

And vroman seriously, you suggest running 5 moxes but there is Null Rod and Kataki in the deck.

You suggest fetch and strip but there is suppression field.

Your decklis is unplayable in my eyes. Feel free to test it and post some results. I am curious.

I am going to work on a version with black. I already run a B/W aggro/control (there is a big thread about it) and i am going to try working in the S-Field. Dark confidant = key!

Do you have a link to your W/B deck?
Heh i cut the suprresion fields its far better to play wasteland/strip mine. i was also thinking of a b/w but mostly black wiht katakis and the better white cards, seems stronger :S.
7  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: Updated cerebral assasin for 2006 on: March 09, 2006, 02:36:03 pm
You may want to add Frantic search since its free and has good synergy with ur sui-chis and ur welders and ur tolarian academy.

Also cut possed portal maybe for a slaver or 2 or add more of the better artifact targets to make it less random.(add darksteel coloosus Very Happy)

THe way you have it metal workers may also be worth testing :S. (lightning greeves for ur welder and metal workers would be great acel as well as good for protecting ur triskelion, platinum angel etc vs evil stps etc.
8  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: G/W beats||control vintage on: March 09, 2006, 02:25:27 pm
heeh imma play a few tournies with wat i got thx everyone if it fails ill probably make it into a mono white, ill also start working probably on a mono red deck. No tier 1 decks for me Very Happy.
9  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: G/W beats||control vintage on: March 09, 2006, 12:17:42 am
did u test this or am supposed to hehe im not sure wat to do :S
10  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: G/W beats||control vintage on: March 08, 2006, 03:06:41 pm
hehe i tough i already concluided a few post ago those were being cutsauced(supression)
11  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: G/W beats||control vintage on: March 08, 2006, 02:44:22 pm
land grant has severe problems Sad

say i need a green or white and i have a wastland and lanf grant in hand i must wait to play threats.

say i need get duressed/countered etc my whole game could go out the window cause i dint want to play somethign so simple.
12  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: G/W beats||control vintage on: March 08, 2006, 11:30:23 am
Ya i noticed it too when going over the list of suggestion and the deck that i had Sad. But i havent had much time to test so i could only change some of the more obvious suggestions that required less testing.

I have tought about replacing supression fields, however i cant decide for what?

The anhks are a good idea but im not sure about its anti synergy with kataki and my decire to wasteland. If i played the land grants and added in 1 temple garden to avoid root maze it could just work out.

What are your toughts on replacing suppresion fields with crucibles and adding in some factories?

Mongrels are good but in most cases will be worst for me then watchwolfs which is also on the verge of being cut.

I believe that sylvan library will be too slow altough it is very good agisnt uba stax, a deck i dont believe i should have problems with.

Land grant is a great idea but i fear that against certain decks it may give to much of a tell(oath and Long etc. control slaver).

Im pretty sure i will be adding a single temple garden to the decklist regardless of any other changes. And may be removing something for 2 rancors.

Also i have tested the True believer and found the double white hard to play, but it looks like green is slowly being weeded out so it may become easier.
13  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: G/W beats||control vintage on: March 07, 2006, 06:24:45 pm
//Creatures (21)

3 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
4 Kataki, War's Wage
4 Kami of Ancient Law
4 Watchwolf
1 Uktabi Orangutan
1 Viridian Shaman

4 Elvish Spirit Guide

//Potential creatures (4)

4 Hidden Herd

//Hate (14)

4 Root Mazes
3 Suppression fields
3 Null Rod
4 Swords to plowshards

//Mana! (21)

1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
4 Savannas
4 Windswept Heath
2 Forest
3 Plains
4 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine

SB

1 Null Rod
3 Choke
2 Ground Seals
2 Naturalize
2 Oxidize
3 Ray of Revelation
2 Karakas
14  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: G/W beats||control vintage on: March 07, 2006, 11:49:00 am
you make some valid points but root maze is a pretty important card in this deck and one i dont think will be possible to cut down to 3. ONe of the sol reasons i am palying green.
15  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: G/W beats||control vintage on: March 07, 2006, 11:16:30 am
edit: tested wayfears to slow Sad
16  Eternal Formats / Creative / G/W beats||control vintage on: March 06, 2006, 11:14:43 pm
It would appear a mod locked my post.  Sad, I think I will use as few words as possible this time so the spelling police don't close me down. Need help and reviews, and good ideas. Thanks in advance.

//Creatures (25)

3 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
4 Kataki, War's Wage
4 Kami of Ancient Law
4 Skyshroud Elite
4 Watchwolf
1 Uktabi Orangutan
1 Viridian Shaman

4 Elvish Spirit Guide

//Potential creatures (4)

4 Hidden Herd

//Hate (13)


4 Root Mazes
3 Suppression fields
2 Null Rod
4 Swords to plowshards

//Mana! (18)

1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
4 Savannas
4 Windswept Heath
3 Forest
4 Plains

SB

1 Null Rod
3 Choke
3 Ground Seals
2 Oxidize
2 Ray of Revelation
2 Karakas
2 naturalize

Stax - Main reason for viridian shamans main, altough still going to be a very rough match for me if they resolve a chalice and i cant resolve my Kataki. Suprresion fields are very strong against this deck but i feel i may get overpowered. Board options: oxidize, naturalize, ground seal, null rod.

Oath- Oath is a likely loss first game, even tough i run main deck STP, kamis and root mazes since i usually draw 1 of these in a given game and it is quickly answered by a counter. Board in 2 ray of revelation, 2 naturalizes , 2 Karakas(MVP?) and possibly chockes/ground seal depending on the version.

Dragon- This deck is very easy to beat for the deck i have as STPs and kamis both respond to their main win. Board in RAYS, groud Seals and naturalizes.

Slaver Control- Against my very limited testing versus this deck it appears that an early drop usually out races their counters and i should have no problem. Katakis, suppresion fields, and root maze do wonders. Side Board: CHOKE, Null rod, ground seal.

Fish - Try to resolve beats. Board into choke to win after sideboarding.

Other beatdown decks- (zoo, bird shit, rg. beats, zombie, tog) Supression field does pretty well against most of these decks and so do STPs. Try to race beats and board into Karakas.

Main Questions i have


Is the sideboard correct?
Should i be playing any very obvious cards that i am missing?
What changes would make the deck better?
Is there any matchup for wich i should be better prepared?
Do I need wastlands/strip mine?
17  Eternal Formats / Creative / Working on a White/green (beats?) on: March 06, 2006, 01:22:53 pm
OK well i just wanna see what people think or what cards i should be running and am not Razz.

3 Isamaro's
4 Kataki's
4 Kami of the ancient law
4 Skyshroud elites
4 WatchWolfs

4 STP

4 Root Maze
4 Suppression fields

4 Hidden Herd
2 Hidden Guerillas

2 Null rod

2 Elvish Spirit Guide
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Emerald

4 Windswept Heath
6 forest
1 Savana
5 Plains

SB:
1 null Rod
3 ground seals
2 karakas
? oxidezez
? chokes
? ray of revelation
? naturalizez
? other stuff help.

Deck tries to paly fast beats and disrupt etc....

Sorry my typing sucks.

What do you think? Need help especially with the sideboard.
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