Wow, thanks for all the great input, aahz.

Those all seem like great edits...any reason you chose Mystical instead of Vampiric to take out?

EDIT: dur...dumb question...nevermind.

EDIT#2:  Here are the "final" lists for now...I have all the cards ready to go for when my brother comes to town in a couple weeks.

Vintage - Grixis Control
3x Dark Confidant
3x Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1x Tezzeret the Seeker
3x Ingot Chewer
1x Goblin Welder
1x Myr Battlesphere

1x Ancestral Recall
1x Black Lotus
1x Brainstorm
1x Demonic Tutor
4x Force of Will
1x Hurkyl's Recall
3x Lightning Bolt
1x Mana Crypt
1x Mana Vault
2x Mana Drain
1x Steel Sabotage
1x Merchant Scroll
1x Mox Emerald
1x Mox Jet
1x Mox Pearl
1x Mox Ruby
1x Mox Sapphire
1x Rebuild
1x Sensei's Divining Top
1x Sol Ring
1x Time Vault
1x Time Walk
1x Tinker
1x Vampiric Tutor
1x Voltaic Key
1x Yawgmoth's Will

1x Flooded Strand
2x Island
1x Mountain
1x Library of Alexandria
1x Polluted Delta
4x Scalding Tarn
1x Tolarian Academy
3x Underground Sea
2x Volcanic Island


Vintage - Martello Shops
1x Duplicant
4x Kuldotha Forgemaster
3x Lodestone Golem
3x Phyrexian Metamorph
2x Phyrexian Revoker
1x Steel Hellkite
1x Sundering Titan
1x Wurmcoil Engine
1x Batterskull
1x Metalworker

1x Black Lotus
4x Chalice of the Void
1x Mana Crypt
1x Mox Emerald
1x Mox Jet
1x Mox Pearl
1x Mox Ruby
1x Mox Sapphire
1x Sol Ring
3x Sphere of Resistance
3x Tangle Wire
4x Thorn of Amethyst
1x Trinisphere
1x Smokestack

4x Ancient Tomb
3x Mishra's Factory
4x Mishra's Workshop
1x Strip Mine
1x Tolarian Academy
4x Wasteland
1x Buried Ruin


I will start with these lists for playtesting and swap a card or two + tweak the copies if needed.

Cheers!

- JF

Just thought I would show where I am at so far:

Vintage Duel Deck #1 - Grixis Control - 2012 Championships Lanigra base w/ edits
1x Darksteel Colossus
2x Dark Confidant
1x Tezzeret the Seeker
2x Jace, the Mind Sculptor
2x Snapcaster Mage
4x Ingot Chewer

1x Ancestral Recall
1x Black Lotus
1x Brainstorm
1x Demonic Tutor
4x Force of Will
1x Hurkyl's Recall
3x Lightning Bolt
1x Mana Crypt
2x Mana Drain
1x Thirst for Knowledge
1x Ponder
1x Merchant Scroll
1x Mox Emerald
1x Mox Jet
1x Mox Pearl
1x Mox Ruby
1x Mox Sapphire
1x Mystical Tutor
1x Sensei's Divining Top
1x Sol Ring
1x Time Vault
1x Time Walk
1x Tinker
1x Vampiric Tutor
1x Voltaic Key
1x Yawgmoth's Will

1x Flooded Strand
2x Island
1x Mountain
1x Library of Alexandria
1x Polluted Delta
4x Scalding Tarn
1x Tolarian Academy
3x Underground Sea
2x Volcanic Island


Vintage Duel Deck #2 - Martello Shops - 2012 Championships Forino base w/ edits
1x Duplicant
4x Kuldotha Forgemaster
2x Lodestone Golem
4x Phyrexian Metamorph
3x Phyrexian Revoker
2x Steel Hellkite
1x Sundering Titan
1x Wurmcoil Engine
1x Batterskull

1x Black Lotus
4x Chalice of the Void
1x Mana Crypt
1x Mox Emerald
1x Mox Jet
1x Mox Pearl
1x Mox Ruby
1x Mox Sapphire
1x Sol Ring
3x Sphere of Resistance
4x Tangle Wire
4x Thorn of Amethyst
1x Trinisphere

4x Ancient Tomb
4x Mishra's Factory
4x Mishra's Workshop
1x Strip Mine
1x Tolarian Academy
4x Wasteland

Again, to re-iterate, these decks are intended for a couple new Vintage players to go head-to-head and have fun while casting some Power9 (ala Wotc Duel Deck style).

I have been reading Brian DeMars' SCG articles and need a reality check in case I am drinking too much of his Kool-aid:

For instance, I made the following "sideboard" swaps, based on his matchup analysis (http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/vintage/24877-Grixis-Control-vs-MUD-Matchup-Analysis.html):

Grixis Control:
-3 Mental Misstep
-2 Flusterstorm
-1 Nihil Spellbomb
+1 Mountain
+4 Ingot Chewer
+1 Lightning Bolt

Plus the following swap, based on his pro's/con's of BSC:
-1 Blightsteel Colossus
+1 Darksteel Colossus

(Note: However, he suggested swapping in a Wurmcoil, but my novice mind wonders why you would downgrade one of your Tinker-targets/win-conditions so heavily.)

Next, based on his article from 5/14, specifically the Restricted List section (http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/standard/26163-On-Vintage.html), I made the following changes:

Grixis Control:
-2 Dark Confidant
-1 Snapcaster Mage
+1 Tezzeret the Seeker
+1 Ponder
+1 Thirst for Knowledge
 
Martello Shops:
-2 Lodestone Golem
+1 Wurmcoil Engine
+1 Batterskull

These will probably be the most shocking to some, but my intention is to make these decks fun and give variety in the games that are played.  He mentioned that 4x Lodestone Golem really makes it tough for opposing decks on the draw.  For the Grixis changes, he mentions JTMS, Bob, Mana Drain and Time Vault as cards possibly needing some reigning in...I chose to just reduce the counts a little to add a few other interesting cards, but don't want to take them down to 1x copy each, as JTMS in particular, as I understood it, is a main win-condition for this deck.

I am close to getting all these cards rounded up to do some actual play testing, so probably things will start to become a little clearer after a few rounds head-to-head.

Cheers - Jesse

Again, thanks for the valuable input!

I am going to try out the following Duel Deck matchup:

- Grixis Control, 2012 Vintage Champ

- Workshop, 2012 3rd/4th Place (no Planeswalker, but no real need to stick to that aspect of the Duel Decks theme)

@Smmenen - Your "Top 2" suggestion makes a lot of sense, but I think I might personally enjoy an Aggro more than Prison Shops build.  Also, thank for clarifying on the Burning Tendrils deck.

Cheers - JF

Thanks for all the suggestions!

Since I am not planning on playing any sanctioned events soon, I will stick with the two decks for now.

It seems like my leaning toward Martello Shops has received some nods.

I am still undecided about the second deck though, here are the finalists for #2:

- Grixis Control from the 2012 Vintage Championships
- U/W Bomberman
- Steve M.'s Burning Oath

All three seem fun...if I have to pick one, which one might provide the more interesting/balanced matches against a Martello Shops build?  Trying to avoid something that just depends on who wins the coin toss! 

- JF

Greetings everyone (first post here).

I am interested in people's input on the following idea:

My brother and I would like to build a couple Vintage decks that have a high "replayability" factor and are designed to be roughly equal in power.

Neither of us have played Vintage, and never cast any Power cards, which we would like to change.

This concept is similar to the "Duel Decks" that Wizards prints.

There wouldn't be a need for sideboards, but "sideboard" type cards could be included in each deck to help make them more equal.

After my initial research into this topic, I am liking what I see of Martello Shops MUD, Oath of Druids and Jace Control.

This might not be possible, but I would love to hear some thoughts!

Cheers - JF

Hey all, my name is Jesse.

I started playing MtG with my Brother back in middle school when revised packs were available at the local grocery store.

At that time, Power 9 cards were out of our budget, and as we got older, then continued to be so.

However, I still have the desire to cast some Power, so I have been researching Vintage decks, hence my stumbling upon TMD.

Cheers - JF