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1  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: Fish or Oath deck for my metagame... on: June 29, 2006, 06:18:09 am
I will think about duress, but I won't put in more than 3 pieces. Also I will keep Enlightened Tutor and I will probably add one Pernicious Deed. I think it's good against goblins etc. as well as against Moxes. And what do you think about Research(/Developement)? I think this card could be good...against control I'll find Simic Sky Swallower and against aggro Ancient Hydra or Triskelion....
2  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: Fish or Oath deck for my metagame... on: June 28, 2006, 04:58:40 am
And what about take out black and instead of tutor play 3 Intuitions + 4 Accumulated Knowledges? I think that in this meta is white more important than black....?
3  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: Fish or Oath deck for my metagame... on: June 27, 2006, 03:14:15 pm
Yeah..you are right with ESGs...very bad idea...Misdirection sounds nice, but don't you think that 6(2 misdirections) spells, which make me to remove blue card is much? If i will play sensei's diving top I have to play at least 4 fetch lands. Why only one sensei? As a target for tutor? Isn't it a little counterproductive? 3 pieces of propaganda is probably much when I can tutor it...
4  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: Fish or Oath deck for my metagame... on: June 27, 2006, 09:17:38 am
Sorry, but what's REB? Embarassed ... With this manabase I worry that if something will be wrong and I won't kill opponent soon I won't have enough lands in late game. Now I have 4 fetch lands so I think I'll buy 2 duals. I think that this investment is good. Also what do you think about Spirit Guides? Should I play Chrome or Diamond Mox? Mana Crypt, Mana Vault, Sol Ring?
5  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: Fish or Oath deck for my metagame... on: June 27, 2006, 08:47:51 am
I don't know the exact number now...I never counted it. No. I don't have dual lands yet, but I think if I will play 4 Orchards + 2 City of Brass that 2 Tropical, 1 Tundra and 1 Sea + 4-6 fetch lands will be ok...? I don't see any reason to play red...What about the rest of manabase? Do you think that Crypt, Sol Ring, Vault, Lotus Petal and 4 Elvish Spirit Guide will be ok? Propaganda/Prison is nice idea against aggro. Thanks...
6  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: Fish for our metagame... on: June 27, 2006, 05:19:12 am
Thanks for a tip. You said me exactly what I was afraid you will say.Smile Now this topic is probably good for nothing. If I will build the Oath deck do you think that 4c version(UGBw) is good choice? Black for tutors and SB disruption against controls or mirror and white for MD Swords to Plowshares. I think that StP are necessary in this meta and black hasn't any creature disruption which is comparable with StP. Also white allowed me to play Enlightened Tutor. I saw an Oath deck, which play for a tutor 2 Gifts Ungiven + Regrowth, Yawgmoth's Will, (possible revive?). Is it good idea? Also I don't have money for Mana Drains. Are they replaceable by Counterspell?

I'll probably change the topic's title...
7  Eternal Formats / Creative / Fish or Oath deck for my metagame... on: June 26, 2006, 01:49:05 pm
( discuss about Oath below..Smile )
Hi there..I know that four topics below my one is topic about UW Fish, but I think this is more specific. Next month I want to go to vintage tournament in my area. There won't be any powered decks(or minimum) and a lot of players will have modified extended or legacy decks. Also it will be no-proxy tournament. I decided to build fish deck(probably UW), because it's easy to modify it for full power metagame to future. Decks I'm expecting are Oaths and Goblins. Plus how I said modified extended decks like Affinity, Ichorid, the Rock?Smile etc..Now I'm deciding between two variants of UW Fish.
 First one is more aggro. It plays Isamaru + Stormscape Apperentice like 1cc drop, because I want to play second turn Ninja of the Deep Hours. Also it plays 4 Silver Knight. I think that this man is necessary when I'm expecting goblins just as True Beliver is necessary in full power meta. Other creatures here are classic Meddling Mage and Kami of Ancient Law, because of Oath, Food Chain or Dragon. For controling I have classic counters - 4 Force of Will and 3 Daze. 4 Swords to Plowshares are necessary in aggro meta too. For drawing I have 4 Brainstorms. Now I don't know what other spells to play. I will have Null Rods in side, because in MD in most of games it should be absolutly unusefull. Also I can play 3 Stifles, but I need a creature in first turn more. Or any bouncing?
 Second one is more control.Smile There isn't ninja engine. As creatures there are Meddling Mages, Silver Knights, Stormscape Apperentices and Kamis of Ancient Law. Other spells are similar with the first deck, but I'm definitely playing Stifles. But now I have a lot of free space. I can add Extract/Rootwater Thief stealing engine and build deck similar with decks from t8 from last tournaments. With this deck Oath matchup will be bye, but I don't know about matchup with agrro decks. Sure that both decks plays wastelands+strip mine and mishra's factories.

Which version do you think will be better in this meta? I'm glad for every help from you. I know it's hard for you to help me, because you are used to power meta. Thanks.Smile
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