(I'm not gonna quote everything you've said as you've done for me, 'cause I don't have a lot more to say.  I'm mindful of the problems with quoting out of context, but I'm trying to be fair, anyway.)


In my first post, I was talking about what the Swedish 93-94 group originally intended, which was my basis for calling one format a pale imitation of another.  I was talking specifically about 93-94, which is what the Swedish group calls the format, after all.  In your response, I thought you were telling me that that wasn't what the Swedish group intended.  You specifically mentioned 93-94 by name.  That's the only reason that I quoted that other site.  I wasn't trying to say that also applied to the US formats.  Rereading this thread, I can see that there has been some miscommunication.


When did I ever say that?  In a previous post, I even said that the different formats have different goals, didn't I?


But that's just silly.  Come now, of course I am entitled to conclude that one format is just a ""bastardization"" of another.  Surely you aren't saying that I'm not entitled to my own opinion, here, right? Also, whenever anybody says anything in the Internet, isn't it already pretty obvious that that it's just a subjective opinion?  You should mentally add "I think that..." to the start of every sentence you read (including this one).  I would think you already know this and so it's very awkward for me to even point it out.  So, what exactly is the point of calling attention to the subjectivity of what I've said?  When do you think I ever represented myself as objectively right?

I agree that I have an opinion that not many people in the US share and one that's probably pretty hard to identify with by readers of this site.  You're not telling me anything I didn't already know.  But TMD isn't a hive mind- I don't see why anything I'm saying here is so incindiary.

I thought we were discussing the differences between the formats and which we preferred?  That's why I started posting in the thread.

Just because you don't agree with me- and I'm well aware that my opinion about this puts me in the extreme minority- isn't a good reason to tell me to stop posting.  Doing that doesn't change my opinion.

No, I don't think you are right.  Is there something you think I'm misunderstand here?

http://oldschool-mtg.blogspot.com/p/historik.html?m=0


Furthermore, if you don't think artificially high barrier to entry is an intended feature of the format, I'd love for you to explain why it is that the Swedish rules disallow stuff like Revised.  If you think it's all about "pimpness" as you've said above, then why not allow, say, FBB?  That was certainly considered pretty fancy back in the olden days that I can remember.

I agree that the format is intended to recapture the feel of the original early 90s MTG scene, as you say, but I fail to see why you seem to think this isn't supposed to include the dynamic of card scarcity and high required personal investment that was every bit a part of the format as getting Scepter-locked.  Granted, the $$$ isn't viewed as a good thing by many players (and I might point out that getting Scepter locked isn't very positive experience, either), but it seems to be pretty explicitly made clear in the part I quoted.

The US takes on organized old school Magic- formats that are only slightly more exclusive than Legacy- simply appear to have different goals from the Swedish one- a format far more exclusive than even Vintage.  The difference in exclusivity, primarily due to the difference in attitudes toward CE, make the US versions a lot less interesting to me, though. It might not surprise you that I've also never been a fan of Vintage proxy events, either.

I really, really hate that both of these formats allow CE.  I'm not thrilled about allowing FBB cards, either.

93/94 was evidently orginally intended as a "hardcore" throwback format and to restore an old school sense of making a serious investment to be able to play (a non-budget deck) that absolutely was a part of Magic's early culture.  I feel like the various US-based versions of the format are downright bastardized versions of this good idea; the people that think of the NorCal or Eternal Central Old School formats as "hardcore" are just lying to themselves, IMO.  In actuality, these are budget formats that have a barrier to entry marginally higher than that of Legacy.

Anyway, what's with the weird errata on Howling Mine?


This actually matches the current Oracle text on the card.  What's the point?

That is not how "strictly worse" works.

No, this is not Vintage Playable in the least (just like Thing in the Ice).

If you find yourself excited about and looking forward to recently spoiled cards in a new set, I totally get that and by all means, I think you should enjoy the experience of spoiler season and the hype train.  However, respectfully, I'd suggest that a vintage-oriented forum is really not the best place to discuss obviously below-eternal-format-power-level cards like this one.

This card is obviouly unplayably bad in Vintage and shouldn't be getting any attention at all on this site.  Why is nobody else in this thread saying this yet?  Are people just getting caught up in the set's hype and forgettIng to be skeptical?  I find this discussion baffling.

I'm all for enjoying new sets, but very few new cards are good enough for the format, and I just don't see this making the cut.  "New Vintage cards" is a contradiction in terms, after all.  Do I really need to state the obvious?  This card is plainly too slow and not nearly as good as the other established creature options.

I can confirm that this was ruled incorrectly.  I heard about this ruling several rounds after-the-fact, and I talked this over with the event head judge who had by that time already been made aware of the issue and agreed that it had been ruled incorrectly.

Thanks.


Abe

Woah.  That's a name I haven't seen in a while- close to 20 years, as a matter of fact.

Does anybody have contact information for Sean?  I'd very much like to know if that's the same SeanOtter I used to know.

Thanks.


Abe

Yesterday, there was a sanctioned Vintage side event at Grand Prix: Atlantic City called "Vintage Plus."  It had 20 players, with 5 rounds of Swiss and a cut to top 8.

Finalists:
1st - Roland Chang
2nd - Vasu Balakrishnan

Semifinalists:
3rd - Dave Kaplan
4th - William Dayton

Quarterfinalists:
5th - Kenan Diab
6th - Vincent Pau
7th - Dennis Tsao
8th - Martin Miralles-Cordial

Roland Chang
1 Black Lotus
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mana Vault
1 Sol Ring
1 Ratchet Bomb
3 Sphere of Resistance
1 Trinisphere
3 Crucible of Worlds
4 Tangle Wire
4 Smokestack
1 Karn, Silver Golem
1 Duplicant
1 Triskelion
1 Wurmcoil Engine
1 Sundering Titan
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Tinker
2 Dack Fayden
1 Crop Rotation
4 Goblin Welder
1 Ancient Grudge
1 Cavern of Souls
1 Strip Mine
1 Tolarian Academy
3 Gemstone Mine
4 Mana Confluence
4 Mishra's Workshop
4 Wasteland

Sideboard
1 Ancient Grudge
1 Balance
4 Chalice of the Void
2 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Homeward Path
1 Pithing Needle
3 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
2 Tormod's Crypt

Vasu Balakrishnan
1 Auriok Salvalgers
2 Tasigur, the Golden Fang
2 Snapcaster Mage
3 Trinket Mage
3 Monetary Mentor
1 Noxious Revival
1 Unburial Rites
2 Gifts Ungiven
1 Flusterstorm
1 Engineered Explosives
2 Mental Misstep
2 Swords to Plowshares
2 Mana Drain
2 Dig Through Time
1 Mindbreak Trap
4 Force of Will
1 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Brainstorm
1 Time Walk
1 Sol Ring
1 Black Lotus
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Jet
1 Tolarian Academy
2 Cavern of Souls
1 Marsh Flats
3 Tundra
2 Underground Sea
2 Island
4 Flooded Strand
1 Karakas

Sideboard
1 Notion Thief
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1 Vindicate
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Plains
3 Disenchant
2 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Swords to Plowshares
4 Containment Priest

Dave Kaplan
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Young Pyromancer
4 Force of Will
4 Mental Misstep
2 Spell Pierce
4 Preordain
1 Ponder
2 Gitaxian Probe
3 Gush
2 Dig Through Time
1 Treasure Cruise
1 Time Walk
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Brainstorm
4 Lightning Bolt
1 Sudden Shock
1 Containment Priest
2 Dack Fayden
1 Island
2 Tundra
3 Volcanic island
1 Strip Mine
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Black Lotus
3 Misty Rainforest
4 Scalding Tarn

Sideboard
4 Ingot Chewer
1 Mountain
1 Shattering Spree
1 Serenity
2 Sudden Shock
1 Pyroblast
2 Karakas
3 Containment Priest

William Dayton
4 Phyrexan Revoker
4 Lodestone Golem
4 Phyrexian Metamorph
1 Darksteel Juggernaut
4 Chalice of the Void
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Sol Ring
3 Null Rod
4 Sphere of Resistance
4 Thorn of Amethyst
3 Dismember
4 Ancient Tomb
1 Karakas
4 Mishra's Factory
4 Mishra's Workshop
4 Mutavault
1 Strip Mine
1 Tolarian Academy
4 Wasteland

Sideboard
1 Karakas
1 Dismember
2 Darksteel Juggernaut
1 Batterskull
2 Pithing Needle
3 Grafdigger's Cage
2 Crucible of Worlds
3 Tormod's Crypt

Kenan Diab
4 Forbidden Orchard
2 Underground Sea
2 Tropical Island
4 Misty Rainforest
1 Polluted Delta
2 Island
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Time Vault
1 Mana Crypt
1 Voltaic Key
4 Preordain
1 Thoughtseize
2 Show and Tell
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Time Walk
2 Flusterstorm
2 Misdirection
4 Mental Misstep
4 Force of Will
1 Brainstorm
1 Memory's Journey
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Dig Through Time
2 Abrupt Decay
3 Griselbrand
4 Oath of Druids

Sideboard
4 Leyline of the Void
2 Pithing Needle
4 Nature's Claim
2 Abrupt Decay
1 Forest
2 Ravenous Trap

Vincent Pau
1 Duplicant
1 Steel Hellkite
1 Sundering Titan
1 Triskelion
2 Phyrexian Matamorph
3 Phyrexian Revoker
4 Kuldotha Forgemaster
4 Lodestone Golem
1 Batterskull
1 Black Lotus
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Sol Ring
1 Trinisphere
3 Sphere of Resistance
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Tangle Wire
4 Thorn of Amethyst
1 Strip Mine
1 Tolarian Academy
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Cavern of Souls
4 Mishra's Workshop
4 Wasteland

Sideboard
3 Crucible of Worlds
2 Tormod's Crypt
4 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Duplicant
1 Wurmcoil Engine
1 Pithing Needle
1 Triskelion
2 Ratchet Bomb

Dennis Tsao
2 Goblin Welder
1 Dark Fayden
1 Black Lotus
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mana CRypt
1 Mana Vault
1 Memory Jar
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sahhpire
1 Sensei's Divining Tp
1 Sol Ring
1 Time Vault
2 Voltaic Key
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Brainstorm
4 Force of Will
1 Hurkyll's Recall
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
4 Mox Opal
2 Burning Wish
2 Thoughtseize
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Ponder
3 Preordain
4 Thoughtcast
4 Seat of Synod
2 City of Brass
4 Mana Confluence
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Time Walk
1 Timetwister
1 Tinker
1 Wheel of Fortune
1 Yawgmoth's Will

Sideboard
3 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Sphinx of the Steel Wind
1 Nature's Claim
4 Ingot Chewer
1 Toxic Deluge
1 Balance
1 Mind Twist
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Transmute Artifact
1 Shattering Spree

Martin Miralles-Cordial
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Time Walk
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Vault
1 Sol Ring
1 Voltaic Key
1 Sensei's Diving Top
1 Toxic Deluge
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Brainstorm
1 Thoughtseize
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Ponder
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Dig Through Time
1 Misdirection
1 Flusterstorm
2 Mana Drain
2 Show and Tell
4 Oath of Druids
4 Force of Will
3 Mental Misstep
3 Griselbrand
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
2 Preordain
4 Polluted Delta
1 Flooded Strand
2 Island
2 Tropical Island
2 Underground Sea
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Library of Alexandria
4 Forbidden Orchard

Sideboard
4 Leyline of the Void
1 Pithing Needle
1 Dread of Night
1 Hurkyll's Recall
1 Rebuild
1 Steel Sabotage
2 Nature's Claim
2 Abrupt Decay
1 Tezzeret, the Seeker

Thanks.


Katzby

You can't actually make your opponent bolt his own Planeswalker even when controlling his turn.


Katzby

My BD username was "Katzby."

My name's Abe and I was the head judge of Vintage champs at Eternal Weekend.  I handled the ruling you are talking about on appeal.

I haven't watched the video, but the infraction is described in this thread more-or-less as I heard it, if not for missing a few details.  The players told me that after Stephen put two cards on top of his library he also played a land and cast a Mox before passing the turn.  Then, during Stephen's end step, Gerard used his Deathrite Shaman to exile Stephen's Ancestral Recall and have him lose 2 life, which resolved.  Then, Gerard untapped and drew for the turn before a spectator notified the table judge of the issue.

Clariax is absolutely right.  Generally speaking, there are only two options when dealing with this type of problem: either rewind everything or leave everything as is.

When I got to the table, after hearing both sides of the story, I knew there was no way I would be rewinding this.  While it's not the only consideration to make, the sheer number of things that happened in between the error and when it was caught meant that we were well past the point of being able to rewind easily and without causing more disruption than it would be worth.  A lot of choices had been made in that short time with information revealed to each player's opponent about the choices they would each make.  Simply snapping my fingers and putting the game back to where it was wouldn't undo the knowledge that each player gained, here- you can't "unring" a bell, as they say.

So, that's the thing- I'm not sure where people are getting the idea that this game was rewound, because it wasn't.  It's possible that the players themselves decided to re-enact the last few plays that they made on their own, but this had nothing to do with the ruling or my directive.

Thanks.


Katzby

This... is not right.  All Legendary creatures and Legendary lands were at one time Vintage restricted.  That's a total of 65 between Legends and Ice Age before that rule was done away with, which is a number not including the restricted cards you are thinking about.  The largest the restricted list ever got was actually somewhere around 100 cards.

Thanks.


Katzby

I'm head judging the Vintage Championships this year.

First of all, allow me to direct your attention to the some of the wording in policy that covers this:

"Artistic modifications are acceptable in sanctioned tournaments, provided that the modifications do not make the card art unrecognizable, contain substantial strategic advice, or contain offensive images. Artistic modifications also may not obstruct or change the mana cost or name of the card."

Not that I want to encourage modifications, but I am planning on being pretty lenient.  I need to be able to identify the card by its modified artwork, I need to be able to easily verify that the card is real, and I'll need to see that the card isn't marked in its sleeve, but that's pretty much it.  Please check with me before the event to avoid any problems later.

Modifications that extend to the top of a card have a tendency to bleed over onto the adjacent edge, which marks the card when viewing the deck from the side.  I'll be checking for this and plan to disallow those cards.  If you have cards like this, the best way to avoid this problem is by double-sleeving with oppositely-oriented sleeves.

Thanks.


Katzby

I swear I'm not trying to be rude, but like I was saying in my previous post, this is categorically the wrong way to look at things and demonstrates that you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the situation surrounding the reserved list.  The assertion that you are making makes it seem like the only reason the reserved list isn't yet abolished has to do with WotC not wanting to do it, but this is demonstrably false.

It doesn't matter if WotC has an incentive to reprint reserved cards or not- the fact of the matter is that they can't.  In fact, various WotC people have already said multiple times that they would do away with the list if they could, so your statement that they have no incentive to do it is clearly incorrect.

So, to clarify, WotC obviously does indeed have a major incentive to undo the reserved list.  However, whether or not they want to do this, they just can't.



You can be convinced that something is desirable, but, at the same time, still not be able to do it.  For example, I'm convinced it would be awesome if I were able to become invisible and could fly, but I can't do either of those things.  Again, any discussion here aimed at convincing anybody that reprints are a good idea is wasted effort for the exact same reason.

It may be insulting to be told that there's nothing that you can do about something that you hate, but that doesn't somehow change the fact that you can't do anything about it.  Saying that there's nothing that can be done is an assertion that's come from Foresythe, Maro, and at least a few others.  However, a lot of people in this community seem to be willfully ignorant of this fact as can be seen in the discussions earlier in this thread and elsewhere.

Also, I'm part of TMD and the only reason I'm posting is that I'm trying to make things better.  I honestly believe that the community would be better if it would collectively leave the issue alone.



Katzby

This is not correct.  I played type 2 both before and after the announcement of the reserved list in March of 1996.

Here's the usenet post that I first read on 3/4/1996 where somebody copied and pasted the original announcement from wizards.com:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.magic.strategy/msg/dea1a6bbcbe6b678?dmode=source

For reference, Pro Tour 1 (New York 96) took place in February of that year, and the format was (modified) standard:

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtgcom/daily/mr134

So, type 2 was certainly established and at large when the reserved list was originally created.

Note that the reprint policy was updated in 2002, which was an update prior to the recent change to "close the promo loophole":

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtgcom/daily/rb29


Anyway, since I find myself posting in this thread, allow me to editorialize a little.

In his AMA, Foresythe basically said, "the reprint policy is not changing, deal with it."  However, you'd never know that by reading through this thread.  What Foresythe gave is exactly the same answer that he always gives, despite people asking him about it at every opportunity.  It is clear that the reserved list is set in stone and further suggestions and assertions about how to fairly reprint reserved cards, what would happen to the secondary market, how great it would be, etc, are utterly useless.  The discussion that's taken place in this thread, which includes examples of all of the above and more, is indicative that those participating either aren't listening or just aren't willing to face reality.

Furthermore, it seems to me that folks here are making the same old arguments for and against reprinting old staples that everyone on this site has already read countless times.  More importantly, part of Foresythe's explanation is and has always been that he and pretty much everybody else at Wizards would change the policy if he and they could, but he and they can't.  If the point of the continued discussions on this topic despite a clear indication from Foresythe on policy is to try to convince those in charge to take action, this is misplaced effort.  Those in charge are already convinced, it's just that, you know, they can't actually do anything about it.

With the hope of affecting any actual change out the window, what possible end does any further speculation or discussion on the topic serve other than to foster false hope, disseminate misinformation, or otherwise belabor the point?  It is my position that Vintage and Legacy players just need to let this one go.  We'll probably all be better for it.

TL;DR:  People should put the effort that they are currently putting into discussions regarding the reserved list instead into getting people to stop talking about it.


Katzby

Except that you can't wish for exiled cards, which invalidates this solution and I suspect makes this one impossible.

Edit: Oh, sorry.  Nevermind.

Katzby

Ooh, a shoutout!  I don't get many of those these days so I have to relish them when they happen.  

Anyway, my pleasure!  I'm glad turnout was pretty good this time and that players, in general, seemed to have fun.  Also, thanks to everybody for acknowledging my birthday by singing at me.  That kind of thing eases the pain of aging, though not quite as much as eating a whole birthday cake when I got home.  

Abe

You rang, sir?

(check pms for contact info)

...

*Lurch-style grunt followed by 1950s sitcom-style canned laughter*

Please note that this event's date has been changed so as to not conflict with another Legacy event in the area.

What: 10-proxy Legacy Constructed event (unsanctioned).  $8 entry fee.  Prize and prize payout distribution will depend on attendance.  Generally a casual atmosphere and a good way to kill a Sunday afternoon.  Besides, what else were you going to do that day?  Come on!

Where: Dream Wizards in Rockville, MD
11772 Parklawn Drive, Rockville, MD 20852
Visit the store website at http://www.dreamwizards.com or call 301-881-3530 for directions.

When: Sunday, 3/28/2010.  (changed from 3/14/2010)  Registration is 11-11:30 with the event starting promptly after registration

Why: Because we like you!

Who: Ima run it.  My name's Abe Corson.  Some folks might recognize me as having HJ'd the Legacy SCG $5k last weekend.  The northern VA sourcers generally attend these events.  We might also get some of the Baltimore Legacy crowd, but its hard to predict those guys.  Hope to see you there!

I actually have every issue of The Duelist and TopDeck and have been considering for quite a while to cut these up with an Exact-O knife and scan the entire archive to be released anonymously on the Internet as a public service.  I figure it would take about a weekend's worth of work and access to a darn good scanner.

Anybody have a good idea about how to approach this?


Katzby

I was on the judge staff for this event and have a copy of the final standings including drops because one player who had to leave early wanted to know where he was going to stand after Swiss.  If anybody needs info from it, feel free to ask on this thread.

I'll be there, and I'm heading out Friday by car from Northern VA and returning Sunday after the event.  If any TMDers happen to be on the way and are interested in carpooling, please send me a private message and/or post to this thread.

Hello.  My name's Abe.  I used to be known on the east coast as a Vintage player, though my Magic involvement is mostly limited to judging these days.  My interest in Vintage remains, so I am dedicated to getting myself on staff for as many high-profile Vintage events as possible and will do whatever it takes to provide as much coverage of such events as possible.

Here are the results, final standings after Swiss, and all of the decklists from the PT Austin side event.  Typing these up was a labor of love for the Vintage community.  I have a ton of pictures from the finals and a full play-by-play of all three games that I will be posting when I get more time.

1st Place: Luis Scott-Vargas
2nd Place: Danial Bragg
3rd Place: David Williams (claimed the piece of power prize for the top record with an unpowered deck)
4th Place: Nathen Renner

Note that no list is available for Arthur Blankenship as he dropped before round 1.

Rank   Name   Points   Tiebreakers      
         OMW%   PGW%   OGW%
1   Bragg, Daniel A   13   62.0000   80.0000   59.2063
2   Scott-Vargas, Luis D   13   58.6667   88.8889   55.2308
3   Williams, David P   12   62.0000   66.6667   59.5498
4   Renner, Nathen   12   54.0000   61.5385   51.4646
5   Bennett, Michael A   12   50.6667   66.6667   50.2381
6   Borowicz, Brandon J   10   54.6667   64.1026   56.6667
7   Gutierrez Gallego, Jose Fran   10   53.3333   61.1111   54.5221
8   Herdman, William C   9   66.0000   50.0000   59.1764
9   Dong, Richard   9   63.3333   57.1429   60.2424
10   Chen, Jeffrey   9   51.3333   58.3333   47.0696
11   Pagani, Will   7   51.3333   48.7179   51.5657
12   Dunseth, Alex R   7   44.0000   48.4848   45.2991
13   Claudel, Benjamin   6   64.5833   50.0000   62.5000
14   Bruno, David   6   58.6667   50.0000   54.7397
15   Simonnin, Pierre   6   54.1667   54.5455   47.8788
16   Pagani, John J   6   54.1667   45.4545   52.5000
17   Perez, Robert J   6   52.6667   41.6667   51.3919
18   Nestick, Johnny   6   48.0000   41.6667   47.3260
19   Speriosu, Michael   4   50.0000   48.4848   46.6667
20   Rhodes II, Randall   3   55.5556   42.8571   49.2063
21   Ye, Albert   3   52.0833   30.0000   58.6364
22   Swaffar, Andy C   3   50.0000   50.0000   47.3214
23   Sung, Simon   3   44.0000   33.3333   44.6970
24   Peters, Brian C   1   62.9630   29.1667   65.2778
25   Rivkin, Marc A   0   100.0000   33.3333   66.6667
26   Corbett, Justin C   0   75.0000   0.0000   75.0000
27   Mynatt, Erik P   0   59.2593   14.2857   60.9127
28   Velasquez, Miguel   0   47.9167   11.1111   45.5808
29   Blankenship, Arthur   0   0.0000   0.0000   0.0000



Chen, Jeffrey      
3   Bayou   
2   Polluted Delta   
6   Swamp   
2   Marsh Flats   
1   Verdant Catacombs   
1   Bloodstained Mire   
1   Strip Mine   
4   Wasteland   
2   Sadistic Sacrament   
1   Vampiric Tutor   
4   Duress   
4   Bitterblossom   
4   Null Rod   
4   Thoughseize   
1   Demonic Consultation   
1   Demonic Tutor   
1   Necropotence   
4   Dark Ritual   
1   Lotus Petal   
4   Chalice of the Void   
1   Diabolic Edict   
1   Darkblast   
3   Tarmogoyf   
4   Dark Confidant   
      
SB      
2   Umezawa's Jitte   
1   Helm of Obedience   
4   Leyline of the Void   
2   Extirpate   
1   Pithing Needle   
1   Darkblast   
1   Diabolic Edict   
3   Choke   
      
Claudel, Benjamin      
4   Daze   
3   Tarmogoyf   
4   Cold-Eyed Selkie   
1   Marsh Flats   
1   Bant Charm   
4   Noble Hierarch   
1   Brainstorm   
3   Spell Snare   
4   Force of Will   
1   Hurkyll's Recall   
2   Swords to Plowshares   
4   Qasali Pridemage   
3   Meddling Mage   
4   Elvish Spirit Guide   
3   Null Rod   
4   Tropical Island   
1   Strip Mine   
3   Wasteland   
1   Brilliant Halo   
4   Flooded Strand   
2   Misty Rainforest   
2   Tundra   
1   Island   
      
SB      
3   Relic of the Progenitus   
1   Annul   
4   Ravenous Trap   
1   Hurkyll's Recall   
3   Kataki, War's Wage   
1   Tarmogoyf   
2   Swords to Plowshares   
      
Gutierrez Gallego, Jose Fran      
4   Meddling Mage   
4   Ninja of the Deep Hours   
4   Sage of Epityr   
2   Kataki, War's Wage   
2   Jotun Grunt   
3   Cursecatcher   
3   Stifle   
3   Daze   
4   Force of Will   
1   Hurkyll's Recall   
1   Merchant Scroll   
1   Ancestral Recall   
1   Time Walk   
2   Spell Snare   
3   Null Rod   
1   Black Lotus   
1   Mox Sapphire   
1   Mox Pearl   
4   Tundra   
1   Plains   
2   Island   
4   Flooded Strand   
2   Polluted Delta   
4   Wasteland   
1   Strip Mine   
1   Brainstorm   
      
SB      
3   Swords to Plowshares   
2   Umezawa's Jitte   
2   Disenchant   
1   Kataki, War's Wage   
1   Hurkyll's Recall   
2   Relic of the Progenitus   
3   Spell Pierce   
1   Tormod's Crypt   
      
Rivkin, Marc A      
2   Reap and Sow   
4   Sylvan Scrying   
4   Chrome Mox   
4   Trinisphere   (not a typo)
4   Tooth and Nail   
3   Vine Trellis   
3   Eternal Witness   
2   Sakura Tribe Elder   
3   Wall of Roots   
1   Painter's Servant   
1   Iona, Shield of Emeria   
1   Sundering Titan   
1   Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker   
1   Sky Hussar   
1   Indrik Stomphowler   
1   Grim Monolith   
1   Lotus Petal   
1   Mana Vault   
1   Sol Ring   
10   Forest   
1   Tranquil Thicket   
3   Urza's Power Plant   
4   Urza's Tower   
4   Urza's Mine   
      
SB      
1   Boseiju, Who Shelters All   
3   Life from the Loam   
1   Sundering Titan   
1   Arash, the Sky Asunder   
3   Krosan Grip   
3   Chalice of the Void   
3   Eyes of the Wisent   
      
Herdman, William C      
4   Aven Mindcensor   
4   Elvish Spirit Guide   
2   Ethersworn Canonist   
4   Gaddock Teeg   
2   Kataki, War's Wage   
4   Qasali Pridemage   
4   Tarmogoyf   
1   Seal of Cleansing   
1   Lotus Petal   
2   Forest   
3   Plains   
1   Horizon Canopy   
4   Wasteland   
4   Windswept Heath   
4   Wooded Foothills   
1   Tormod's Crypt   
1   Swords to Plowshares   
1   Strip Mine   
4   Savannah   
1   Choke   
1   Relic of the Progenitus   
3   Null  Rod   
2   Enlightened Tutor   
2   Vexing Shusher   
      
SB      
1   Seal of Primordium   
1   Kataki, War's Wage   
3   Swords to Plowshares   
3   Orim's Chant   
3   Tariff   
1   Suppression Field   
3   Umezawa's Jitte   
      
Swaffar, Andy C      
1   Tezzeret, the Seeker   
3   Underground Sea   
2   Tropical Island   
1   Swamp   
2   Island   
1   Tolarian Academy   
4   Polluted Delta   
1   Flooded Strand   
1   Library of Alexandria   
1   Voltaic Key   
1   Time Vault   
1   Sol Ring   
1   Sensei's Divining Top   
1   Mox Sapphire   
1   Mox Pearl   
1   Mox Jet   
1   Mox Emerald   
1   Mana Crypt   
1   Engineered Explosives   
1   Black Lotus   
1   Yawgmoth's Will   
1   Tinker   
1   Time Walk   
1   Regrowth   
1   Merchant Scroll   
1   Demonic Tutor   
1   Thirst for Knowledge   
2   Repeal   
1   Rebuild   
1   Mystical Tutor   
1   Ponder   
2   Misdirection   
4   Mana Drain   
1   Gifts Ungiven   
4   Force of Will   
1   Fact or Fiction   
1   Echoing Truth   
1   Brainstorm   
1   Ancestral Recall   
1   Inkwell Leviathan   
3   Dark Confidant   
1   Vampiric Tutor   
      
SB      
1   Engineered Explosives   
1   Trinisphere   
1   Darkblast   
1   Tormod's Crypt   
2   Yixlid Jailer   
2   Extirpate   
2   Hurkyll's Recall   
3   Pithing Needle   
2   Thoughseize   
      
Bragg, Daniel A      
1   Time Vault   
2   Voltaic Key   
1   Inkwell Leviathan   
1   Ancient Grudge   
1   Fire // Ice   
1   Rebuild   
4   Force of Will   
1   Misdirection   
1   Windfall   
1   Wheel of Fortune   
1   Timetwister   
1   Memory Jar   
1   Yawgmoth's Will   
2   Goblin Welder   
1   Regrowth   
1   Merchant Scroll   
1   Tinker   
1   Gifts Ungiven   
1   Vampiric Tutor   
1   Mystical Tutor   
1   Demonic Tutor   
1   Transmute Artifact   
1   Brainstorm   
1   Ponder   
2   Impulse   
1   Time Walk   
1   Thirst for Knowledge   
1   Fact or Fiction   
1   Ancestral Recall   
1   Mana Vault   
1   Mana Crypt   
1   Lotus Petal   
1   Sol Ring   
1   Black Lotus   
1   Mox Ruby   
1   Mox Emerald   
1   Mox Pearl   
1   Mox Sapphire   
1   Mox Jet   
3   City of Brass   
1   Island   
1   Tropical Island   
2   Underground Sea   
2   Volcanic Island   
2   Polluted Delta   
2   Flooded Strand   
1   Tolarian Academy   
1   Dark Confidant   
      
SB      
3   Leyline of the Void   
1   Helm of Obedience   
2   Ingot Chewer   
1   Naturalize   
1   Ancient Grudge   
1   Pyroclasm   
1   Yixlid Jailer   
2   Tormod's Crypt   
2   Red Elemental Blast   
1   Pithing Needle   
      
Williams, David P      
4   Bridge from Below   
4   Cabal Therapy   
3   Dread Return   
2   Flamekin Zealot   
1   Darkblast   
4   Serum Powder   
4   Ichorid   
4   Golgari Grave-Troll   
4   Stinkweed Imp   
4   Narcomoeba   
3   Golgari Thug   
1   Angel of Despair   
4   Leyline of the Void   
4   Chalice of the Void   
4   Bazaar of Baghdad   
3   Petrified Field   
3   Unmask   
4   City of Brass   
      
SB      
2   Contagion   
2   Ingot Chewer   
2   Wispmare   
3   Gemstone Mine   
3   Ancient Grudge   
3   Chain of Vapor   
      
Sung, Simon      
4   Duress   
4   Thoughtseieze   
4   Dark Ritual   
4   Mind Twist   
4   Hymn to Tourach   
4   Dark Confidant   
2   Gerrard's Verdict   
2   Yixlid Jailer   
4   Ethersworn Canonist   
4   Tidehollow Sculler   
4   Hypnotic Specter   
4   Wasteland   
1   Plains   
4   Swamp   
4   Marsh Flast   
4   Scrubland   
1   Strip Mine   
1   Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth   
1   Godless Shrine   
      
SB      
3   Leyline of the Void   
4   Path to Exile   
3   Kataki, War's Wage   
3   Serenity   
2   Yixlid Jailer   
      
Speriosu, Michael      
1   Black Lotus   
1   Mox Emerald   
1   Mox Jet   
1   Mox Peal   
1   Mox Ruby   
1   Mox Sapphire   
1   Mana Crypt   
1   Sol Ring   
1   Tolarian Academy   
2   Island   
3   Volcanic Island   
4   Underground Sea   
1   Swamp   
2   Scalding Tarn   
3   Polluted Delta   
4   Dark Confidant   
1   Time Walk   
1   Ancestral Recall   
1   Brainstorm   
1   Ponder   
1   Fact or Fiction   
2   Sensei's Divining Top   
1   Yawgmoth's Will   
1   Tinker   
1   Merchant Scroll   
1   Mystical Tutor   
1   Demonic Tutor   
1   Vampiric Tutor   
4   Mana Drain   
4   Force of Will   
4   Duress   
1   Inkwell Leviathan   
1   Voltaic Key   
1   Time Vault   
1   Tezzeret the Seeker   
1   Fire // Ice   
1   Hurkyl's Recall   
1   Chain of Vapor   
      
SB      
1   Red Elemental Blast   
2   Pyroblast   
4   Leyline of the Void   
2   Tormod's Crypt   
2   Pyroclasm   
1   Mountain   
2   Rack and Ruin   
1   Hurkyl's Recall   
      
Scott-Vargas, Luis D      
4   Force of Will   
4   Mana Drain   
3   Thoughtseize   
2   Repeal   
1   Echoing Truth   
1   Fire // Ice   
1   Rebuild   
1   Demonic Tutor   
1   Merchant Scroll   
1   Mystical Tutor   
1   Vampiric Tutor   
1   Ancestral Recall   
1   Brainstorm   
1   Gifts Ungiven   
1   Ponder   
1   Sensei's Divining Top   
1   Tezzeret the Seeker   
1   Thirst for Knowledge   
1   Time Walk   
1   Tinker   
1   Yawgmoth's Will   
3   Dark Confidant   
1   Darksteel Colossus   
1   Time Vault   
1   Voltaic Key   
1   Black Lotus   
1   Mana Crypt   
1   Mox Emerald   
1   Mox Jet   
1   Mox Pearl   
1   Mox Ruby   
1   Mox Sapphire   
1   Sol Ring   
1   Tolarian Academy   
2   Flooded Strand   
2   Misty Rainforest   
2   Scalding Tarn   
1   Island   
2   Snow-Covered Island   
3   Underground Sea   
3   Volcanic Island   
      
SB      
2   Mystic Remora   
1   Red Elemental Blast   
1   Pyroblast   
3   Ingot Chewer   
2   Smother   
4   Leyline of the Void   
1   Tormod's Crypt   
1   Pithing Needle   
      
Peters, Brian C      
2   Gorilla Shaman   
4   Dark Confidant   
4   Goblin Welder   
1   Karn, Silver Golem   
3   Smokestack   
3   Crucible of Worlds   
3   Tanglewire   
4   Thorn of Amethyst   
1   Trinisphere   
1   Sensei's Divining Top   
1   Time Vault   
1   Voltaic Key   
1   Demonic Tutor   
1   Vampiric Tutor   
1   Entomb   
1   Darkblast   
1   Black Lotus   
1   Sol Ring   
1   Mox Sapphire   
1   Mox Jet   
1   Mox Ruby   
1   Mox Emerald   
1   Mox Pearl   
1   Mountain   
1   Swamp   
4   Mishra's Workshop   
4   Wasteland   
4   Badlands   
1   Bloodstained Mire   
1   Cabal Pit   
1   Barbarian Ring   
1   Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth   
1   Strip Mine   
1   Tolarian Academy   
1   Bazaar of Baghdad   
      
SB      
1   Pyroblast   
1   Red Elemental Blast   
1   Tormod's Crypt   
1   Relic of Progenitus   
1   Duplicant   
1   Darkblast   
2   Powder Keg   
2   Pithing Needle   
3   Triskellion   
2   Extirpate   
      
Pagani, John J      
1   Vampiric Tutor   
4   Pull from Eternity   
4   Entomb   
3   Thoughtseize   
4   Cabal Therapy   
4   Exhume   
4   Reanimate   
4   Animate Dead   
4   Swamp   
2   Bloodstained Mire   
2   Flooded Strand   
3   Scrubland   
1   Lotus Petal   
4   Chrome Mox   
4   Dark Ritual   
4   Serum Powder   
4   Iona, Shield of Emeria   
1   Blazing Archon   
1   Hellkite Overlord   
2   Sphinx of the Steel Wind   
      
SB      
1   Platinum Angel   
2   Blazing Archon   
4   Demystify   
1   Sphinx of the Steel Wind   
1   Inkwell Leviathan   
2   Sadistic Sacrament   
2   Chalice of the Void   
2   Pithing Needle   
      
Rhodes II, Randall      
1   Lion's Eye Diamond   
1   Mox Ruby   
1   Mox Pearl   
1   Mox Emerald   
1   Mox Sapphire   
1   Black Lotus   
1   Mox Jet   
1   Lotus Petal   
1   Demonic Tutor   
1   Bayou   
1   Mana Crypt   
1   Sol Ring   
1   Vampiric Tutor   
4   Chromatic Star   
4   Chromatic Sphere   
4   Tinder Wall   
4   Elvish Spirit Guide   
4   Simian Spirit Guide   
4   Spoils of the Vault   
4   Dark Ritual   
4   Cabal Ritual   
4   Land Grant   
4   Chrome Mox   
4   Goblin Charbelcher   
1   Timetwister   
1   Ancestral Recall   
1   Time Walk   
      
SB      
1   Extirpate   
1   Drop of Honey   
4   Pithing Needle   
4   Thoughtseize   
1   Mind Twist   
4   Naturalize   
      
Renner, Nathen      
4   Dark Ritual   
4   Duress   
4   Thoughtseize   
4   Entomb   
4   Painter's Servant   
4   E xhume   
4   Animate Dead   
3   Engineered Explosives   
2   Inkwell Leviathan   
2   Iona, Shield of Emeria   
1   Lotus Petal   
1   Wheel of Fortune   
1   Sol Ring   
1   Vampiric Tutor   
1   Strip Mine   
3   Bazaar of Baghdad   
3   Bloodstained Mire   
3   Badlands   
4   Wasteland   
6   Swamp   
      
SB      
3   Sphere of Resistance   
4   Leyline of the Void   
3   Platinum Angel   
3   Gorilla Shaman   
2   Faerie Macabre   
      
Mynatt, Erik P      
1   Ponder   
1   Brainstorm   
4   Force of Will   
4   Null Rod   
4   Oath of Druids   
4   Misty Rainforest   
2   Wasteland   
3   Thoughtseize   
4   Forbidden Orchard   
1   Gaea's Blessing   
1   Lotus Petal   
1   Mox Jet   
1   Mox Sapphire   
1   Ancestral Recall   
1   Mox Emerald   
1   Mox Pearl   
1   Iona, Shield of Emeria   
1   Demonic Tutor   
1   Vampiric Tutor   
2   Tropical Island   
1   Strip Mine   
1   Thirst for Knowledge   
1   Mana Crypt   
2   Underground Sea   
1   Forest   
1   Island   
1   Mystical Tutor   
1   Timetwister   
1   Duress   
3   Spell Pierce   
1   Lim-Dul's Vault   
1   Lat-Nam's Legacy   
1   Mox Ruby   
1   Impulse   
1   Wipe Away   
1   Echoing Truth   
1   Time Walk   
      
SB      
2   Hellkite Overlord   
1   Kathus, Tyrant of Jund   
1   Platinum Angel   
4   Leyline of the Void   
1   Ancient Grudge   
1   Rebuild   
2   Echoing Truth   
1   Extirpate   
2   Pithing Needle   
      
Simonnin, Pierre      
4   Serum Powder   
4   Narcomoeba   
4   Ichorid   
2   Fatestitcher   
1   Flamekin Zealot   
1   Angel of Despair   
1   Cephalid Sage   
4   Bridge from Below   
4   Chalice of the Void   
4   Leyline of the Void   
3   Unmask   
4   Cabal Therapy   
1   Darkblast   
2   Golgari Thug   
4   Stinkweed Imp   
4   Golgari Grave-Troll   
3   Dread Return   
2   Gemstone Mine   
4   City of Brass   
4   Bazaar of Baghdad   
      
SB      
2   Gemstone Mine   
2   Ancient Grudge   
2   Wispmare   
3   Contagion   
3   Chain of Vapro   
2   Pithing Needle   
1   Unmask   
      
Ye, Albert      
1   Black Lotus   
1   Mox Emerald   
1   Mox Jet   
1   Mox Pearl   
1   Mox Ruby   
1   Mox Sapphire   
1   Mana Vault   
1   Sol Ring   
1   Lotus Petal   
1   Tolarian Academy   
2   Island   
1   Swamp   
4   Underground Sea   
1   Swamp   
2   Flooded Strand   
3   Polluted Delta   
1   Time Walk   
1   Ancestral Recall   
1   Brainstorm   
1   Ponder   
1   Yawgmoth's Will   
1   Tinker   
1   Merchant Scroll   
1   Mystical Tutor   
1   Demonic Tutor   
1   Vampiric Tutor   
4   Force of Will   
4   Duress   
1   Inkwell Leviathan   
1   Chain of Vapor   
4   Dark Ritual   
2   Cabal Ritual   
1   Yawgmoth's Bargain   
1   Necropotence   
1   Imperial Seal   
1   Windfall   
1   Gifts Ungiven   
1   Memory Jar   
1   Mind's Desire   
1   Misdirection   
1   Repeal   
1   Timetwister   
1   Tendrils of Agony   
      
SB      
4   Leyline of the Void   
4   Oath of Druids   
1   Sphinx of the Steel Wind   
1   Gaea's Blessing   
2   Tropical Isand   
3   Thoughtseize   
      
Corbett, Justin C      
4   Sakura Tribe Elder   
4   Tarmogoyf   
4   Kitchen Finks   
4   Lightning Helix   
3   Path to Exile   
3   Engineered Explosives   
4   Scapeshift   
1   Fastbond   
1   Regrowth   
2   Sylvan Library   
1   Gorilla Shaman   
1   Strip Mine   
4   Taiga   
4   Plateau   
1   Savannah   
1   Vesua   
2   Valakut, the Molten Pnnacle   
1   Oran Rizt, the Vastwood   
2   Treetop Village   
2   Flagstones of Trokaire   
1   Wasteland   
1   Boseiju, Who Shelters All   
1   Wooded Bastion   
1   Forest   
1   Plains   
3   Mountain   
2   Harmonize   
1   Library of Alexandria   
      
SB      
3   Orim's Chant   
1   Silence   
2   Ancient Grudge   
1   Krosan Grip   
3   Relic of Progenitus   
2   Tormod's Crypt   
3   Xantid Swarm   
      
Borowicz, Brandon J      
4   Tarmogoyf   
1   Darksteel Colossus   
4   Mana Drain   
4   Force of Will   
4   Mystic Remora   
2   Duress   
2   Thoughtseize   
1   Brainstorm   
1   Ponder   
1   Mystical Tutor   
1   Demonic Tutor   
1   Vampiric  Tutor   
1   Merchant Scroll   
1   Gifts Ungiven   
1   Regrowth   
1   Cunning Wish   
1   Echoing Truth   
1   Tinker   
1   Yawgmoth's Will   
1   Time Walk   
1   Ancestral Recall   
1   Tolarian Academy   
1   Tezzeret, the Seeker   
1   Time Vault   
1   Black Lotus   
1   Mox Jet   
1   Mox Sapphire   
1   Mox Emerald   
1   Mana Vault   
1   Mana Crypt   
1   Sol Ring   
1   Sensei's Divining Top   
1   Voltaic Key   
1   Polluted Delta   
3   Tropical Island   
3   Underground Sea   
2   Island   
2   Misty Rainforest   
1   Scalding Tarn   
1   Flooded Strand   
      
SB      
1   Darkblast   
3   Trygon Predator   
3   Ravenous Trap   
3   Yixlid Jailer   
1   Bitter Ordeal   
2   Extirpate   
1   Mindbreak Trap   
1   Hurkyl's Recall   
      
Dunseth, Alex R      
4   Tangle Wire   
4   Smorkestark   
1   Karn, Silver Golem   
1   Tezzeret, the Seeker   
3   Sphere of Resistance   
3   Crop Rotation   
3   Crucible of Worlds   
1   Pentavus   
1   Triskelion   
1   Trinisphere   
1   Fastbond   
1   Time Walk   
1   Ancestral Recall   
1   Thirst for Knowledge   
1   Tinker   
1   Intution   
4   Goblin Welder   
3   Chalice of th eVoid   
1   Mox Ruby   
1   Mox Emerald   
1   Mox Jet   
1   Mox Pearl   
1   Mox Sapphire   
1   Black Lotus   
4   Gemstone Mine   
4   City of Brass   
1   Tolarian Academy   
4   Mishra's Workshop   
1   Lotus Petal   
1   Mana Vault   
1   Mana Crypt   
1   Sol Ring   
1   Strip Mine   
2   Wasteland   
      
SB      
2   Ancient Grudge   
2   Red Elemental Blast   
2   Diabolic Edict   
1   Pithing Needle   
2   Powder Keg   
2   Gorilla Shaman   
1   Chain of Vapor   
1   Echoing Truth   
1   Tormod's Crypt   
1   Chalice of the Void   
      
Bruno, David      
1   Sol Ring   
1   Demonic Tutor   
1   Mana Crypt   
2   Berserk   
1   Grim Monolith   
1   Fact or Fiction   
1   Sensei's Divining Top   
1   Gush   
1   Mystical Tutor   
1   Daze   
1   Mana Vault   
1   Brainstorm   
1   Vampiric Tutor   
1   Merchant Scroll   
1   Yawgmoth's Will   
1   Duress   
1   Black Lotus   
1   Mox Sapphire   
1   Mox Emerald   
1   Mox Ruby   
1   Mox Pearl   
1   Time Walk   
1   Timetwister   
1   Ancestral Recall   
1   Mox Jet   
4   Dark Confidant   
4   Force of Will   
3   Phyrexian Dreadnought   
3   Mana Drain   
2   Stifle   
2   Illusionary Mask   
1   Island   
1   Strip Mine   
1   Tolarian Academy   
2   Tropical Island   
1   Library of Alexandria   
3   Flooded Strand   
3   Polluted Delta   
4   Underground Sea   
      
SB      
4   Extirpate   
4   Leyline of the Void   
3   Tormod's Crypt   
4   Engineered Explosives   
      
Bennett, Michael A      
4   Noblie Hierarch   
4   Qasali Pridemage   
4   Meddling mage   
4   Cold-Eyed Selkie   
3   Tarmogoyf   
4   Force of Will   
1   Brainstorm   
3   Daze   
3   Spell Pierce   
1   Divert   
3   Null Rod   
3   Stifle   
1   Gush   
4   Tropical Island   
4   Tundra   
4   Misty Rainforest   
3   Flooded Strand   
2   Island   
4   Wasteland   
1   Strip Mine   
      
SB      
4   Whel of Sun and Moon   
2   Umezawa's Jitte   
2   Kataki, War's Wage   
2   Sower of Temptation   
2   Annul   
3   Ghostly Prison   
      
Pagani, Will      
1   Tezzeret, the Seeker   
1   Demonic Tutor   
1   Merchant Scroll   
1   Tinker   
1   Yawgmoth's Will   
1   Time Walk   
2   Duress   
1   Sol Ring   
1   Mana Vault   
1   Voltaic Key   
1   Black Lutos   
1   Mox Ruby   
1   Mox Jet   
1   Mox Pearl   
1   Mox Sapphire   
1   Mox Emerald   
1   Time Vault   
1   Sphinx of the Steel Wind   
1   Magus of the Unseen   
4   Dark Confidant   
4   Force of Will   
4   Mana Drain   
1   Misdirection   
1   Brainstorm   
1   Gifts Ungiven   
1   Mystical Tutor   
1   Hurkyl's Recall   
1   Thirst for Knowledge   
1   Fact or Fiction   
1   Rack and Ruin   
1   Vampiric Tutor   
1   Spell Pierce   
1   Ancestral Recall   
1   Fire // Ice   
1   Echoing Truth   
1   Tolarian Academy   
2   Volcanic Island   
3   Ungerground Sea   
2   Polluted Delta   
2   Scalding Tarn   
2   Flooded Strand   
1   Library of Alexandria   
2   Island   
      
SB      
2   Arcane Laboratory   
2   Ingot Chewer   
1   Hurkyl's Recall   
1   Darkblast   
1   Rack and Ruin   
4   Leyline of the Void   
2   Pithing Needle   
2   Pyroclasm   
      
Dong, Richard      
4   Wasteland   
4   Bloodstained Mire   
4   Scalding Tarn   
3   Chrome Mox   
1   Steam Vents   
1   Volcanic Island   
1   Mountain   
4   Badlands   
1   Earwig Squad   
3   Daze   
2   Spell Pierce   
4   Goblin Matron   
4   Goblin Ringleader   
4   Goblin Piledriver   
4   Goblin Warchief   
4   Thoughtseize   
2   Warren Instigator   
4   Aether Vial   
1   Goblin Chieftain   
4   Goblin Lackey   
1   Goblin Tinkerer   
      
SB      
3   Chalice of the Void   
2   Mindbreak Trap   
4   Leyline of the Void   
3   Pyroblast   
3   Shattering Spree   
      
Velasquez, Miguel      
4   Grim Monolith   
4   Power Artifact   
1   Reconstruction   
4   Boomerang   
1   Ponder   
1   Braingeyser   
4   Arcane Denial   
1   Brainstorm   
1   Mystical Tutor   
4   Daze   
2   Into the Roil   
1   Sol Ring   
1   Darksteel Colossus   
1   Sensei's Divining Top   
1   Lotus Petal   
1   Altar of Dementia   
1   Staff of Domination   
1   Tinker   
1   Sundering Titan   
1   Myr Matrix   
4   Force of Will   
4   Island   
4   Flooded Strand   
4   Mishra's Factory   
2   Polluted Delta   
      
SB      
4   Pithing Needle   
4   Copy Artifact   
4   Standstill   
2   Into the Roil   
1   Tezzeret, the Seeker   
      
Nestick, Johnny      
2   Ancient Tomb   
1   Marsh Flats   
1   City of Traitors   
16   Swamp   
4   Chrome Mox   
4   Dark Ritual   
4   Cabal ritual   
2   Helm of Obedience   
2   Thoughtseize   
2   Diabolic Edict   
4   Hymn to Tourach   
3   Duress   
4   Leyline of the Void   
4   Serum Powder   
1   Demonic Consultation   
1   Tendrils of Agony   
1   Necropotence   
1   Sol Ring   
1   Demonic Tutor   
1   Yawgmoth's Bargain   
1   Vampiric Tutor   
      
SB      
2   Thoughtseize   
3   Extirpate   
1   Null Rod   
4   Engineered Plague   
3   Chalice of the Void   
2   Mindbreak Trap   
      
Perez, Robert J      
1   Demonic Tutor   
1   Time Walk   
1   Mox Jet   
1   Mana Crypt   
1   Mox Sapphire   
1   Mox Ruby   
1   Mox Pearl   
1   Mox Emerald   
1   Fact or Fiction   
1   Time Walk   
4   Force of Will   
1   Black Lotus   
1   Vampric Tutor   
1   Thirst for Knowledge   
1   Library of Alexandria   
1   Inkwell Leviathan   
3   Underground Sea   
1   Fire // Ice   
3   Dark Confidant   
4   Mana Drain   
1   Mystical Tutor   
3   Volcanic Island   
3   Polluted Delta   
2   Flooded Strand   
1   Sensei's Divining Top   
1   Ancestral Recall   
1   Ponder   
1   Sol Ring   
1   Time Vault   
1   Tinker   
1   Tezzeret, the Seeker   
1   Yawgmoth's Will   
2   Island   
1   Merchant Scroll   
2   Repeal   
1   Echoing Truth   
1   Voltaic Key   
3   Duress   
1   Brainstorm   
1   Swamp   
1   Tolarian Academy   
      
SB      
1   Pithing Needle   
2   Pyroclasm   
3   Ingot Chewer   
3   Yixlid Jailor   
2   Extirpate   
2   Mindbreak Trap   
2   Mystic Remora   

More to come later.

Katzby

LSV wins in 3.  Decklists and play by play and pictures to come this week.

Top 2 is Luis Scott-Vargas with Bob/Tezz v. Daniel Bragg with SCV.  Top unpowered prize claimed by David Williams (not THE DW) with Dredge.

Update: Daniel wins game 1.

I have all the deck lists and will post them this week.


Katzby

Since I didn't see it mentioned elsewhere, I thought I'd point out that there is a sanctioned Vintage tournament as a side event at PT Austin tomorrow, 10/17, starting at 4:00 PM.  Top two records receive one piece of power each.  There is also a special piece of power prize for the unpowered (Ichorid ) player with the best record.  0 proxies allowed, obviously.

I know it's short notice, though it is not exactly my job to advertise for this event.  I will do my best to acquire the decklists of the top 8 and get them posted when I can.


Katzby

The concern here is not that he is scooping to a friend.  The concern is that, as Vroman explains, "Colin scoops to me in exchange for free gas money and lunch..."  One can conceed to his or her opponent, especially if that opponent is a good friend, but it can't be in exchange for something.

From the MIPG:



The semantics here are quite important, indeed.  If what Vroman really meant by "in exchange for" is what you are describing here, then this interaction is perfectly fine and dandy.


Katzby

Well.

The intention of my response here is not to lecture but rather to educate.  I have quite a bit of experience judging vintage events (and non-vintage Magic).  For example, I have head judged the last several Star City Games P9 events in addition to being on staff for most of those events in its last few years, so please don’t dismiss what I have to say based on the fact that you’ve never heard of me.

Let's first clarify that it is clear that this was an unsanctioned event, given the fact that proxies were involved.  However, unsanctioned events don't actually mean that you have carte blanche to do whatever you like that you can't normally do at a sanctioned event.  Most vintage proxy tournaments adhere to DCI guidelines in every way with the exception of the support of said proxies; infractions committed at most proxy tournaments are usually still handled by the MIPG.  This is so frequently the case that it should probably be considered implicitly understood even if no specific announcement is made by the event’s TO or head judge.

So, allow me to ask- did you run the above by the event's TO or any of the judge staff to see if it would be allowed?  This is because what you are describing is a blatant example of bribery.  If you tried this at a sanctioned REL competitive event, you and your opponent should, by all rights, be DQ'd with no further ifs ands or buts about it.  Even if you had managed to get through a sanctioned event without this happening, mentioning it later in a tournament report, as you’ve done here, could easily result in an investigation concluding with disciplinary action being taken by the DCI, (e.g. a suspension).

What I am saying is that you probably shouldn't have done this.  Whether or not bribery is allowable at a particular unsanctioned event or not in which I were judging OR playing, I know that I would generally be pretty unhappy if a couple of players agreed to this, as described.

I recognize that 9 times out of 10, it simply doesn't occur to players that this kind of exchange isn't kosher, so pointing this out is not intended to be an indictment of your moral principals.  As I said, my goal here is to educate.  However, I'd urge you to think about this a little bit in order to get an understanding of why it is both a DQ-able infraction at a sanctioned event and generally pretty darn unethical behavior.  Does it really seem fair to you and within the spirit of the game to offer something outside of the tournament in exchange for a free match win?


Katzby