To elaborate even further, you can even concede in the middle of something resolving. For example, after your opponent has named a card with Cabal Therapy but before you reveal your hand, after you've drawn 2 cards from Bazaar but before you've discarded, etc. In your example, if for some reason you wanted your opponent to know some amount of your deck but not all, you can even concede after Grindstone has milled half your deck.

I would go so far as to say that anyone who's been playing Eternal formats for any decent amount of time should be fully aware that this interaction does not work.

You're totally right, thanks for the reply! Once you lay it out like that, it seems pretty obvious that trying to Stifle a Chalice isn't what you want to be doing.

It didn't seem like you were too hindered by it, but have you found Chalice to be a problem for the deck at all? If so, have you considered Stifle?

FWIW I was there yesterday and the board said that this isn't going to be Swiss with a cut. It's just 4 rounds, payout based on points.

From memory:

12 points: 180 prize tix
9: 90
6: 60
3: 30

The prizes go deep but are not at all top heavy. The most basic exchange rate on tickets is 10 = 1 in-print pack.

At PAX East, IIRC a pack of a normal, in-print set was 10 tickets. I think I got the most recent Duel Deck for like 60ish. So for first you're looking at about 3 boxes, which is ~$300 retail.

EDIT: Oh, and the MtG stuff at Pax East was run by TJ's.

Vetoing this poll based on the lack of Rhode Island option ;D

Seriously though, at a little over 3 hours, it would generally have to be a "can't miss" event for me to seriously consider attending under normal circumstances.

Could you elaborate a little more on the basic Forest in the main? Would you consider switching it with the Plains in the side? A quick count shows 18 maindeck white cards to 13 green, and an even 5/5 in the board. Not to mention the WW on Abolisher, and the fact that Cradle is an additional green source. Is this mostly because of the need to stick a Deathrite?

If you were to switch the Plains and the Forest, is it safe to assume the Verdant Catacombs would become a Marsh Flats? Thanks.

I was eagerly Anticipating this thread.

Anyone ever see that Bottle Gnomes art anywhere else? If it is in fact new, pretty lame that it's an homage to the Mirrodin one and not Tempest.

Even more unusual would be to do it the other way around, again to play around discard. In this case if you have less than 5 mana available to DT and Will in the same turn, you can DT for VT, then VT for Will so it's on top of your library and can't be discarded.

I know you only in passing, but I've been a member of the community for over ten years and never once heard even a whisper of your name in regards to cheating or anything else shady.

Here's some evidence:

http://magic.wizards.com/en/content/suspended-dci-memberships

I wonder what inspired Keith to cut the Red and the Delvers from his U/R Delver deck and add black and Doomsdays

I also have very little idea of who's making it, but I'll go with:

Craig Masley
Taylor Pratt
Ray Robillard

Still nothing posted for the prize art, but the playmat is now listed on the site page:

The only time Strip Mine has yielded fun, ever.

This is possible. I recall we split two games (yet played 3) and I recall you mulliganing very low (possibly to one) in one of those games yet got a Bazaar. Whether your win occurred in the same game in which you mulliganed, that I do not recall.

So perhaps I've lost to a mull to one twice! (Though Grindstone was definitely not involved the second time)

I think this thread should just be Grindstone stories, because I have one too.

This happened at TravisCon at the Moose Lodge, the last tournament where 4 Brainstorms were still legal. I was on Painter against an unknown opponent. It's game one and I win the Dredge lottery: my opponent mulls to 1. Meanwhile I draw a pretty busted hand that is capable of first turn Painter/Grindstone plus activation. I want to say it was Painter, Grindstone, Land, Sapphire, Sol Ring, Lotus, Drain, because I remember thinking about playing it safe and leaving Drain up the entire time.

I think for a minute, because putting Dredge's entire library into their graveyard is a scary proposition, but cannot come up with any way they can kill me at instant speed, so I go for it. Well, my opponent decided to run a MAINDECK Darksteel Colossus to prevent just such shenanigans, binning his entire library -1. Worst of all, he couldn't even kill me in one turn, having to Cabal Therapy his Colossus back to the top.

On the bright side, now when my opponent mulls to 4 at FNM I can give them hope by telling them I've lost to a mull to one before.

I may be a little bit off, but I think I can remember 7 of the 8 decks in top 8, and they were 7 fairly distinction archetypes. From what I remember:

Terra Nova Shops
Steel City Vault w/ Dack
Grixis Control
U/W StoneForge Still
Forgemaster Shops
BUG Fish
U/R/(g?) Delver

From my rough Round 1 scouting of the room, Delver seemed to be the most popular deck with about 7 players. Note that this didn't include the ~20 people with byes. There were also around the same number of Shops decks, which with a quick look were difficult to distinguish exact archetype, but Terra Nova and Forgemaster were both definitely present. I believe there was only one Dredge deck in the room. There may have been more with a bye, but if there was I never saw it.

FWIW he did play Dredge at the tournament where it first broke out.

I remember because we carpooled and t00l barned your Slaver list that maindecked a Tormod's Crypt (before Dredge was a deck mind you) and totally blew him out because of it

Rochester NY I assume? There is an airport in New Haven, which is about 16 miles from the venue, so you could fly in there. It's a smaller airport though, so fares are going to be steep, especially for such a short distance. I didn't shop around, but one site I checked had the cheapest one at over $300.

If you can bare it, a bus is probably your best bet. Again I didn't shop around, but Greyhound was about $70 to get you to New Haven (I think that was one way, but again you can probably do better). The trip is anywhere from 9-13 hours, which can be rough, but the shortest flight I found was also over 5 hrs due to nothing direct and holdovers. (The airport's website claims Piedmont Airlines does a direct flight from Rochester, but nothing came up on travelocity).

From there, assuming it drops you off at the airport (I didn't check, but that tend to be the case), public transit can technically get you to about 2 miles from the venue (according to Google Maps), though it seemed pretty roundabout and required like 4 transfers and ~2 hours even if you catch everything right. Renting a car or bumming a ride seems much easier from there, as it's only like a 25 minute drive.

Not sure if this link will work but here's Google Maps' public transit directions from the airport to the venue:
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Tweed+New+Haven+Regional+Airport,+155+Burr+St,+East+Haven,+CT+06512/589+Bridgeport+Ave+%2317,+Milford,+CT+06460/@41.2562931,-73.0137448,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89e7d7e323a1323d:0xd0c4b425e87be5ba!2m2!1d-72.890854!2d41.268637!1m5!1m1!1s0x89e87352d9337097:0xfc14358acd238e4d!2m2!1d-73.086652!2d41.20597!3e3

And in reverse:
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/589+Bridgeport+Ave+%2317,+Milford,+CT+06460/Tweed+New+Haven+Regional+Airport,+155+Burr+St,+East+Haven,+CT+06512/@41.256024,-73.0227748,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89e87352d9337097:0xfc14358acd238e4d!2m2!1d-73.086652!2d41.20597!1m5!1m1!1s0x89e7d7e323a1323d:0xd0c4b425e87be5ba!2m2!1d-72.890854!2d41.268637!3e3

Good Luck!

This should be a sanctioned event, which would mean no proxies.

Full spoiler here: http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/article.aspx?x=mtg/tcg/vintagemasters/cig

Heh, I suppose you're right.

Conspiracy won't be released on MTGO, so most of the Eternal legal, non-reprints will likely be in as a way to get them online.

They also announced that there's no Modern legal cards in the set, so no Confidant, Lodestone, Jace, or Snapcaster, to name a few.

And in regards to drafting, a lot of the commons/uncommons will likely be fringe-at-best cards that build the limited format. See: Avian Changeling or Blind-Spot Giant in MMA. They've already stated that red will largely be Goblins, for example.

You have to be trolling, but I'll bite. You're comparing foils to other foils. Both of those come in set foil, which is infinitely more "pimp." This is the ONLY foil Force of Will. Tempest Wasteland to foil Wasteland is a better comparison (the price different of which is 300%+). Or if you prefer examples without multiple foil printings, Oath of Druids, Gaea's Cradle, and Intuition.

For those saying the art is familiar, it is also the version of Force of Will that's in the MODO Cube if you've ever played that.

I played against Dredge rounds 1 and 2, but never saw anyone else playing it personally. The deck that stood out to me as being very well represented was BUG. There were also quite a few UW Tempo-Control style decks at the top tables, though that's a very vague description as they were all pretty different from one another.