I agree with a lot that Smmenen has mentioned. I have full power, and hate proxing stuff, thus i never get to play Workshop decks. I do pride myself in my deck, and like the fact i can play Sanctioned t1.

Yes, T1 is a little elitist because of that pride, but then again that gives people something to strive for. T1 is a interesting group of players, mostly older, more mature, and even proud group of people. We worked hard to get to play a format many don't. I'll never get to play a pro-tour but I can enter a sanctioned T1 with a fully powered deck, and i'm proud of that achievement.

as a weird side not. i did a SCG T1deck database search for the last year. of the 5 first place decks, 4 of the 5 had exactly 10 cards valued at 75 or more. 1 deck had only 3 power cards in it. Found that kind of interesting, would be curious to know what cards are proxied in SCG top 8 decks.

I also own zero Tramagoyfs, but am buying a Time Vault since i don't have one.

sadly i don't have a SCG premium account to read the article, but i have played a shahrazad deck in T1 tournament. No one has ever complained. Most thought its was a clever deck. it was W/R winnie burn that used Shaz as a WW burn spell. now this was pre 2007 rules change, where crypting their graveyard in a sub game could kill many decks. in won a few, lost a few, and was fun to play. Tier 1 no. did it disrupt tournaments, no. Did i dump down to a 3rd sub game once, yes. Do i think it should be unbanned. Yes.

ok playing devils advocate (i like the dec a lot) but with tinker/plat could the Magus just be changed into the enchantment versions? or is it because they are duress proof?

why cards like Impulse and Sleight of Hand, which are as good if not better then ponder where not restricted too? Ponder makes one think they are just throwing darts at a wall when it comes to these restrictions. Even flash people thought was kind of stupid since it wasn't an all dominate deck.

i my self was very insulted reading that, after waiting all week hoping to hear their well thought out decisions on the restrictions.

people concede games due to time all the time. the clock is part of tournament magic, and sharhazad isn't the first deck that has caused people to concede due to time. I guess every infinite life combo is going to get banned too. I really would like to know more about what organizers were complaining, or when this card ever became an issue?

I'm really annoyed by the Shahrazad banning. I know most people don't care but i do have a T1 Shahrazad that was fun to play. and on a lesser note I have 5 Shahrazad  that just died in value.

A it wasn't that big of deal it was played so rarely.
B. it was a fun deck to play (my brother played my R/W Rush Shahrazad deck at the PAX T1 tournment), using Shahrazad as a    10point or 5point lighting bolt.
C. really are T1 decks worried about Shahrazad stalling a game out? you know you can CONCEDE a sub game at any point. that was half of the Strat for my R/W deck. since if  you crypt them in a sub game they lose those cards in the main game. With luck that would get them to concede and youg et a 10point life swing, few lighting bolts later you win.
D. it sounds like Legacy need the banning not Vintage.
and E lastly "the Organized Play department requested that Shahrazad be banned from tournament play for logistical reasons" seriously other then Gen-Con has Organized play cared that much about T1? See 'Gush and Flash'

This has came up on the judge list, and effects dragon, with it winning Paris, this could effect GEN CON.

http://oracle.wizards.com/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind0506b&L=dcijudge-l&F=&S=&P=735

and the respone

http://oracle.wizards.com/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind0506b&L=dcijudge-l&F=&S=&P=1715

Pretty much there is not an Official answer to if Dragon can draw a game out, or how the infinity rule is going to work. Some off list questions leads me to hope they will have one by gen con.

just wanted to give everyone a heads up, and maybe start some dissussion here. Don't go sreaming on the judge list, the subjet is shelved till an offiial answer is made, since its been talk about to death before

Steve
Time Being
DCI level 1

sadly i am a judge and i have done thing befor, but yeah you should call a judge. every high level judge i've talk to have said call a judge. or go grab one. if itd FNM well say something, anything else. get a judge.

Just a note on the second one, they can also force you to sleave your deck insteed of proxying the card.

Simple, from my first main expansion

Knights of Thorn

looks cool at first galnce but then i saw the background, that needs some more work.

 plus who is Proxying Volcanic Islands, lets see Power in this frame.

I think this card helps budget more then it hurts it. Madness and Food Chains still beat down hard after this since they have very dedundent builds. Dragon is screwed but not mad dragon. It also could make a budget Black build viable, if not just tier 2/3.

It also helps budget against combo, if combo doesn't go off turn 1/2.

It also gives 4cc a way to get rid of all them dame squees.

yeah i think cranial extraction could help some match ups. (if you last to cast it.)

Think of building this and testing it. Void always had a special place in my heart.

but have to put in a Crucible it replaces the missing sinkholes.

i'm crying. dude good luck. hope you find the stuff.

i think this could help mono black a lot

Cranial Extraction -
Sorcery - Arcane
Name a nonland card. Search target player's graveyard, hand, and library for all cards with that name and remove them from the game. Then that player shuffles his or her library.
105/306
Rare


With dark rituls and moxs and such this can come out screaming fast with duress backup and more or less end games for many T1 Decks. Name Dragon Vs dragon, vs tog, Angel vs 4CC. Welder vs Wokshop could give balck some breathing room. Could change the meta and force people to play 2 different wins conditions.

I could see it played in other deck too since nameing force of will, or Mana drain can cripple lots of decks.

I see a nice void deck based on this.

I kept playing with a deck like this in my head. I had a feeling mono blue could be strong hate vs the Fish/Curcible meta. Also thought MisD had a spot to come back in. plus COunterspells, are strong if your all blue.

Still can't see not playing Fact or F. But i'll do some testing and see.
Good job.

Just A heads up. I got the schedule from the Delegates List.

Thursday July 22 Comic-Con
San Diego

NOTE: Held at Manchester Grand Hyatt - Randall Room D
Next to the Convention Center  
12 Noon
Type 1 SANCTIONED
Cost: FREE
Prizes: Product.

Run By wizards it looks like.

Bad time and day i know. I wrote to them explaining how Type 1 Players are older then most, and are better at making the later games. i.e. after our day jobs.

I will not be there. I will barely make it to the con by then. and as much as i love Type 1, don't want to spend my first day there playing magic.

There is also a 1.5 on saturday at 4pm

No it doesn't. It would be 2/4 since once it is removed from the game its 2/4 since it doesn't have anything imprinted anymore



That was Fridays Tournament not Saturdays.

I went 3-2 with Germbus Keeper, 3 angels 1 DoJ, On Saturday.

Forget all kinds of Names so sorry about it.

Round 1 vs His own build of Worse then Fish, with Dryads

Win game one by more or less removing every card he has in play for a few turns. Low land count and lots of strips, wins games. And he can't handle Angels.

But then again no land loses games. And that’s what happens to me game 2 and 3

0-1

Round 2 vs Suicide Black
Game 1 he gets 2 Slayers quick. But I drop turn 3 turn 4 morph angel which wins.

Game 2 See game 1 but he has a slower start. And I have Counters.

1-1

Round 3 vs EBA I think with Dryads and Mages for kill.

Game 1 I go 4 Wastelands well 5 with Yawg. He loses.

Game 2 He goes Holistic wisdom on me. I almost hold out, but not for too long. He cast Recall 3 time before I can disenchant.

Game 3 We go to the end. He mind twists my Doj, and I've used my Will already. I can't find a kill and he doesn't play any creatures for my kavu. I have to Cunning Wish for Vamp tutor, for Angel, play it. Play another. He plays Holistic, and top decks a Demonic tutor which he tosses to get Balance, but i top a force. And then a top a Mana Drain. And win with about 5 cards in my deck. 1 hour of pain. Last game to finish. Me Plagiarizing a Recall is the turning point.

Round 4 vs Brent with Germbus.

Game one. I huge counter war that he plays much better then me.

Game 2 Is a looooooooooooong drawn out Mirror. Draw Go/Draw go.  I say F*** it and drop the angel. He has no counter. More draw go. Some how it goes the distance. As the last game playing with 2 mins left we look at each other.
We tell Pat that let just call it a draw. Pat reminds us that one of use can concede. I turn to Brent and concede on the spot no questions asked.

Round 5 vs MUD with Grafted Skull caps Artifact lands

Game 1. First turn Shaman, says he loses since his first lands are Artifacts and when he goes. Workshop Mox Stax, i counter.

Game 2 He drops 2 Spheres and 2 Skull caps. I'm not worried as I drop lots of Rack and Ruins and more counters. Even with 3 Workshops out he is in top deck mode after I destroy all his Skullcaps..

So 3-2 (or 3-1-1) at another great Gems Type 1

Props.
Brent for winning round 5 to make Top 4
Pat for Running another great event and winning his own Mox.
And all 32 players for showing up.
And Gems for the great new place and the extra space.

Slops
Me, for not playing Shahrazad

See you all next time

Steve
Timebeing

Running Basic Germbus Keeper with say this Sample sidebaorded
SB: 3 Red Elemental Blast  
SB: 3 Flametongue Kavu  
SB: 2 Rack and Ruin  
SB: 1 Damping Matrix  
SB: 1 Disenchant  
SB: 1 Gush  
SB: 1 Vampiric Tutor  
SB: 1 Swords to Plowshares  
SB: 1 Skeletal Scrying  
SB: 1 Blue Elemental Blast

I'm haveing problems decideding what to side out versus
Keeper/Bus
TOG
Madness
WelderMUD

Thanks
steve

This is something worthy of beginning a new topic in the open t1 forum.
- Kowal[/color]

No Minds Desire deck?

Didn't Oscar have a list in one of his articals...

Neo-Academy 2003, Max Joseph a.k.a. Westerdale, test deck, from e-mail
 Blue (29)
 4 Mind's Desire
 4 Hurkyl's Recall
 1 Ancestral Recall
 1 Time Walk
 1 Timetwister
 1 Time Spiral
 1 Frantic Search
 1 Windfall
 1 Mystical Tutor
 4 Force of Will
 4 Impulse
 4 Sleight of Hand
 2 Brain Freeze

Black (3)
 1 Demonic Tutor
 1 Vampiric Tutor
 1 Yawgmoth's Will

Green (2)
 1 Fastbond
 1 Crop Rotation

Red (1)
 1 Wheel of Fortune

Artifacts (14)
 1 Black Lotus
 1 Mox Sapphire
 1 Mox Jet
 1 Mox Emerald
 1 Mox Ruby
 1 Mox Pearl
 1 Mox Diamond
 1 Mana Crypt
 1 Lotus Petal
 1 Sol Ring
 1 Mana Vault
 1 Grim Monolith
 2 Candelabra of Tawnos

Land (11)
 1 Tolarian Academy
 2 Underground Sea
 4 City of Brass
 4 Gemstone Mine

they don't mindslaver takes your next turn. when ever it is....

Plus time walk can be your only out vs multi Maze of Iths

no fact or fiction?

Was it due to thirst being faster? but Fact is the same speed as Deep?

just wondering. Like the build. going to try it out.

well it the only good weekend for me in May it looks like. PLus May is a big magic months

You got regionals May 1st
Pro tour San deigo May 14-16
and the Fifth Dawn Pre Release May 22nd

so the 8th sounds good to me.

bummer lots of draw, didn't think so many people would have double creatures. O well at least my deck was unq.

i use japanese and am going to try the Gun Metal since everyone talks so highly of them

coolstuff has them

http://www.coolstuffinc.com/miscProducts_main.php?info1=Card%20Sleeves&info2=Japanese%20Sleeves


funny this came up i just resleaved my deck last night. god i hate doing that.... pulling that lotus out and trying to get it in a new sleeve with out the sharp edges nicking it kills me.... Luckly my last batch of Jap sleaves lasted for about a year.

I would also make most of the 3 ofs 4 ofs. Lots of times you will play 3 and side the 4th (say bloodmoon) Plus it always sucks, when you want 4 and only have 3.

also would add 4 of the blue and green Manlands

and a couple of wishable sideboard cards
1 Ebony Charm
1 Coffin Purge

yeah i've made blind mistakes befor. Playing Keeper i decked my self against TnT, and never thought to wish for My ebony charm and get rid of his squee. Since i had removed all my wishable enchanment hate out of the sidebaord. I think with control its all about thinking out side of the box (why i like playing it) and knowing your options, and just playing your deck a lot..

and since you have no cards in your grave yard or your hand it doesn't help....

It just fun. And it reminds me of the early days of magic when i first started to play. Plus i'm older and can offard the cards now, so its a Quarter Life Crisis thing too. Plus the Meta is great right now. And there tends to be 20 different decks you play against. And since i don't get a lot of play outside of tournments i'm still learning and getting better.