Ok, i've some difficulty sometimes understing each single word...but it's nice practice in another language  .

By the way... i read all your reply and i've understood that i forgotten to say something very important: i DON'T want an aggro deck with some hate control, i developed an hate deck with an incredible number of "sideboard" card (how do you call them? Here in italy we use an expression like "a pole into the ass" ) played since game 1. Now, arik124 has given me a list thath is similar to an aggro-control and that is not my purpose (i thank you all the same ).

Now, some reply...

@ wethepeople: thank you for the links but i want to keep this 2 colors. I don't want to add the red.

@ Polynomial P: you gave me an incredible idea: bazaar+oath of ghouls. It's very nice even because you can discard dead cards and draw all the same some creature from you graveyard. Just a question, you can activate the oath just once each turn or you must take cards from you graveyard until the number of creature is equo?

@ NicolaeAlmighty: you told me this change: -3 kami +3 jotun...you know...it's not bad. The deck has an elevated clock and jotun can help us...the problem is that it's an anti-synergic card with Planar void (it's written in the write way?). Than, i haven't selected the lotus petal because it's not a permanent mana font and a starting hand with 2 hand it's ok but a starting hand with a land and a lotus it's NOT ok.

@someone: the childern of korlis it's not so much beauty, we have no problem with storm.deck

@someone: no, the null rod is not as wonderfull as kataki. He's reaaaaly beauty!

By the way, i will test with bazaar-oath of ghouls, jotun and than i will tell you.

Oh, one more thing, tha aetheral vial is a great card but there is not space for put it into the deck.


I'm testing this list
// Deck file for Magic Workstation

// Lands
    2 Plains
    4 Scrubland
    4 Wasteland
    1 Strip Mine
    2 Polluted Delta
    2 Flooded Strand
    2 Swamp
    4 Bazaar of Baghdad

// Creatures
    3 Kataki, War's Wage
    4 Dark Confidant
    3 True Believer
    3 Withered Wretch
    3 Jotun Grunt

// Spells
    4 Chalice of the Void
    4 Duress
    3 Cabal Therapy
    3 Swords to Plowshares
    1 Demonic Tutor
    1 Vampiric Tutor
    3 Planar Void
    2 Orim's Chant
    2 Oath of Ghouls

// Sideboard
SB: 1 Swords to Plowshares
SB: 1 Orim's Chant
SB: 2 Abolish
SB: 3 Serenity
SB: 4 Engineered Plague
SB: 3 Hide/Seek
SB: 1 Balance


Edit: it's not good. The void is one of uor biggest card and we can't replace it; jotun is a huge 4/4 but is nothing compeared with void. The bazaar and the oath make us soo mach bazaar-oath dependent and we cant do this...the only card that enjoy me is the vial, i have to find her a place.

Welcome to my first thread! I'm an italian player (i apologise in advance for my ristrect knowledge of the language) and i'm here for speak about an hate deck that i developed at home...probably it has the number for beying a tier deck; who knows?

By the way, let's speak about the deck list:

Mana: 21
4 wasteland
1 strip mine
4 scrubland
3 polluted delta
3 flooded strand
3 swamp
3 plains

The manabase is really solid and rarely i've some mana screw problem; it has 5 land discructor (4waste and 1 strip) and it also can play ONLY using basic land. There are not artifact mana card like "Lotus petal", Sol ring and Mana crypt because there are usefull in this deck, and 80% of the times you will prefear a land rather than an artifact like this.

Creatures: 16
4 dark confidant
3 kataki, war wege
3 true believer
3 withered wretch
3 kami of ancient law (2/2 cost= 1+W sacrifice to destroy an enchantment)

The creatures are not so much but they are though! The confidant is there for allow us a constant drawing, kataki is a great card against any spoiler deck (he also give us an hand against artifact.deck) and the believer is GOD against storm deck like Tps, Pitch long and Gift. The wretch is a 2/2 cost 2 and he has the great possibility to reduce a big Yawgmoth's will in something like "play land, pass". The kami is not a great creature but he's good against Oath and worldgorger dragon. The clock of this deck is high but it's not a problem because we are an  aggro-control deck.

Other spell: 23
4 Chalice of the void
4 duress
3 cabal therapy
3 sword to plowshare
3 planar void
2 orim's chant
1 demonic tutor
1 vampiric tutor
1 vindicate
1 seal of cleansing

Ok, here the hate cards are present in a a veeery big quantity, the chalice is a beatiful card for lock spoiler.deck and for create a stand-situation (with a chalice with 0 counters and another with 1 counter...you know, it's hard for the opponent!  :lol:). Duress and therapy are the main protection from broken and them are utile also for increase our control on opponent's hand. The plowshare ALWAYS finds a target (oftenly is a welder, a confidant, Akroma, Razia and sometime even colossos) and the planar void is a dead card only against goblin. The orim's chant is a greath thing against storm.deck but even a great protection from aggro deck (like goblin ^_^). The tutors are essentials and the seal of cleansing added to vindicate give us 2 enourmus tech.

Now, let's pass to analyse the sideboard...

4 engineered plague
3 serenity
3 hide/seek
2 abolish
1 orim
1 stp
1 balance

The plague are there for stopping Goblin, against this deck the first game is always lost but in the second, our strategy changes in "let's defense our life point until we draw a plague" and i can assure you that CONTAIN goblin is not as difficult as someone can think.
3 serenity gives us the possibility of restart the match against any artifact.deck; 3 hide/seek are there for stop some winning condiction (like Yawgmoth, Tyrant, BARGAIN, COLOSSOS etc.), abolish is there for artifact and his chalice with two counters (the dead of this deck), orim gives us an hand against storm.deck and aggro like Ichorid, Stp the same and balance idem.

Now, the analysis is over, i apologise again for the language and i say you that this deck has seen many playtest.... in my humble opinion it has the possibility to became a new deck (even because he has many sideboard card starting sins the game 1) . I know that the american metagame is different from italian metagame ( in wich the greatest deck are: Tps, Gift, Oath, artifact.deck, goblin, more or less Ichorid and tang) but i think thath it could give this deck player's some satisfaction.

Now is your turn to speack 

Hello -Ipnox-