very good report, as always


Can you write your side in and out versur fish deck?
If you hold the duress in the second game, what do you remove to enter goyf, pitching and removals?

Thank for your anwser and sorry for my bad english.

I would like to test ETW, but it request a red-non-basic-land. If possible i want remain UB with 3/4 basic land (t. tyrant is a trial, if maindeck sundering i want again wgd#3).
red-non-basic-land give gorilla shaman and reb to side.

without rtr i can tutor c.wish with m.teachings, i can do intuition(wgd,wgd,mt) for win with animate. Unfortunately MT is dead card (i can tutor ancestral o fow a cc4. When do R&D add flash to necromancy??) instead rtr is good card to develop our game. But if i play brainstorm+mt i can develop my hand and board with BS, resolve duress and win with only one intuition  and animate
Without rtr mono dark ritual without rtr become interesting (entomb come back now).

DC can play only with tinker, if tinker comes discard DC become dead card, sundering can reanimate.
@meadbert: you could wait to reanimate sundering? If need second big artefact vs aggro control i prefer razormane masticore

Hi, i am italian player of dragon, sorry for my bad english.

I played wgd with squee and wgdx to many time. With TS and PC i would like to test a less graveyard based deck.
I cut rtr for brainstorm and i add Mystical Teachings as tutor for c.wish .

4 u.sea
2 island
1 swamp
5 fetch
5 mox
1 b.loto
1 s. ring
1 m.crypt
4 bazaar
3 wgd
1 witness
6 animate
2 c.wish
4 fow
3 duress
4 brainstorm
4 intuition
2 deep
1 mystical teachings
1 d.tutor
1 v.tutor
1 ancestral
1 t.walk
1 entomb

If extirpate will become a problem i would like to test a second finisher main deck: -1 wgd +1 tidespout tyrant (for win with 2 mox)

side:
wish target:
1 stroke (win)
1 extirpate/misdirection (protection)
1 fof or rtr (draw)
1 chain
1 hurkyll
1 rebuild
2 e. truth

4 chalice of the void
1 tinker
2 sundering titan (or 1 + 1 memnarch or other big artefact)

Hi, last sunday I played WGD.deck unpowered. I have tested WGD UB, following your advice.
There were 55 player.
My list:
3 island
3 swamp
4 polluted delta
4 undeground sea
1 sol ring
1 mana crypt
1 lotus petal
1 ancient tomb
4 bazaar
4 squee
4 WGD
1 laquatus
3 dance of the dead
2 necromancy
4 duress
4 fow
2 stifle
3 intuition
2 deep analysis
3 careful study
1 entomb
1 demonic tutor
1 lim dul's vault
1 compulsion
1 read the runes
1 flash of insight
Side:
3 null rod
2 coffin purge
1 sundering titan
1 verdant force
3 e.e.
1 chain of vapor
2 hurkyll
1 cabal therapy
1 necroplasm (test, before I used darkblast or massacre)

First turn I had a bye, because I was second in the classific of the Liguria (my region) League (this tournament was the final).
I won versus Fish monoU powered thanks to a sixth basic land (my opponent sided back to basic). He played Rootwater Thief, but I saved my laquatus with intuition. 2-0
I won versus 2Land Belcher, thanks to null rod and cabal therapy (I lost game #1). That match was the most difficult.
I won versus welder mud 2-0 thanks to the aforementioned sixth basic land. Very easy match.
ID in the two last matches.
I won versus oath powered in the top8 without any problem. e.e. saved me from two ground seals and one oath during the second game ^_^ 2-0
I lost versus gifts, 1-2, my main mistake was in game#2 with duress (and too much haste to animate sundering titan). During game#3 I lost because I played the wrong lands, and I ended not having the black mana needed for cabal therapy (I drew it during the last useful turn, I didn't think it could have saved me).

I think this deck is very strong. In italy I won a tournament with WDG(http://www.themanadrain.com/forums/index.php?topic=24276.0) and I have achieved good results among the unpowered decks. This one was the first tournament where I played WGD UB, and I quite liked this deck.

I plan to tweak the side a bit:

2 null rod
2 coffin purge
2 gorilla shaman/reb(which one is better, in your opinion?)
1 volcanic island
1 sundering titan
1 verdant force(or sundering#2)
2 hurkyll
1 chain of vapor
3 e.e.

but there is the risk to side too much against gifts. Is Red necessary? I lost vs gifts only due to a mistake I made.
I also like cabal as a fifth duress#5. Gorilla Shaman is very strong (mox,tormod and needle), but WGD is a combo. I think Reb is definitely a better red card to side.

The Maindeck is optimal for an unpowered player ^_^
Carefull study is good draw card without bazaar(I have not ancestrall, deep are to risk misdi and drain. I have 6 card for win with WGD in the graveyard. I don't like a chain or another bouncer maindeck and I have not never need a second finisher(laquatus is the best one).

Daniele Gualco

I play with only 3 bazaar because now with carefull the good start is, island-study-discard WGD. Early game i win with study.  Bazaar for me is a very strong card to play at 3° turn, it help for a middle and late game. I hate see two bazaar in my start hand when i play only three squee. Obvius if i see bazaar in early game i can win with the good hand^_^
bazaar#4 is a good choice with squee#4 but i choice 3xbazaar and play 4xcarefull for early game because the presence of nedlee in my mate. I choice to play 3xsquee because i hate topdeck(or see in start hand) squee or another usless card(WGD,winner,animate). I have search to reduce this probability.


Why do you play without 3x or 4x carefull study?I love this card,faster then compulsion and with intuition is a strong winner to close turn#2. With squee is a good card for draw in the middle game. In the late game compulsion is better ok.
I don't see carefull in the list out of italy..

How play a match versus gifts(or atog) without red and shaman? Side in null rod/chalice/sundering/tormod/coffin? is this sufficient for win the second game? I side in reb, shaman and tormod, side 6-7 card. I side out 1-2 mana(basic land), 1 WGD,2-3 blue card and 1 fow. I would see how you confront this match up.(in italy there are very few player of WGD now )

In my meta i don't meet ubazaar or pentastax..how do you play versus this deck? is null rod  in the side for this match up?

Thanks to all,
Daniele Gualco, a little italian player of WGD^_^

Hi, I am Daniele Gualco and i play dragon.deck since one year in italy.
Italian Metagame consist of Fishes,Wu-tangs, Prison monobrown, Gifts.dec,Dragons,Atogs and fewer 5c-stax.

I have chosen to play three color dragon ( UBr version ), especially because of his mana base ( playing with up to three basic lands is cool ).

I play red for two sideboard's cards: reb and gorilla shaman.
My list misses P9s (unluckily for me, i play sanctioned t1 tourneys here ). On the other hand, I continuously test online with p9:


2 island
1 swamp
4 polluted delta
1 Flooded Strand
3 underground sea
1 volcanic island
1 badland
1 mox jet
1 mox ruby
1 mox saphire
1 mox emerald
1 black lotus
1 mana crypt
3 bazaar of bagdad
3 worldgorger dragon
1 ambassador laquatus(vs blessing i win with deep how the rules of most italian judge)
3 squee, globlin nabob
2 necromancy
3 dance of the dead
4 duress
4 Force of will
4 careful study
2 deep analysis
3 intuition
1 entomb
1 demonic tutor
3 stifle
1 ancestral recall
1 time walk

There are 58 card, 2 free slots are awaiting for:
-4° dragon, to increase the initial hands of 7 cards with this strong sequence: Land, careful and discard dragon.
-4° bazaar. I don't play this becouse there ara a lot of Pithing Needles all around here .
-Read the runes, Flash of Insight or 4°Intuition, for win with only dragon in the graveyard without Bazaar
-4° squee, but i hate them a lot because they are useless by themselves when sitting down in my hand. If play 4th squee, bazaar#4 is a must.
-chain of vapor,
-2° finischer(hellkite,kumano,silver queen,caller of the claw), but in the past, I didn't need a Bouncer in the Main Deck( tormod, seal,planar and another hate are frequent side card) and the second finisher is excessive when i can loop.
- vampiric tutor or LDvault, but i don't wish card disadvantage, i like playing 4° intuition.

I prefer play with 4° dragon and 4°intuition.
I don't play compulsion becouse for me careful+intuition is a good alternative to bazaar, and it is most fast.


My Sideboard for the Italian Metagame is:
3 red elemental blast: the best sideboard card.
2 tormod's cript: versus mirror, gifts, atog
2 gorilla shaman: versus needle, tormod, chalice, gifts,atog
1 necromanzia: side in versus random, planar void,prison.
2 chain of vapor or e.e., i prefer chain becous most fast
1 massacre: versus wu-tang or ww
1 darkblast: versus fish.deck
1 hurkyll's recall: versus prison. I don't fear of chalice at 2, but i fear of sphere of resistance.
2 verdant force: No Sundering titan, because versus gifts i have: 3 reb,2 tormod,2 gorilla. I need a strong card versus prison and fish.deck. Verdant is the card i search.

Life from the loam after my test is a card very slow for a dragon, i prefer red card in the sideboard, only 5c version can test one copy of this card(but i don't like).

Excuse me for my bad english,
Daniele Gualco

My ankh sligh  

12 Mountain
4 wasteland
1 strip
3 mishra's factory( 4 are too much for me)
4 city of traditors
1 ancient tomb
(city and tomb are one test, for play null, ankh of 1°, blood and heretic of 2° and play scepter quickly)

4 jackal pup
4 lightning bolt
3 mox munky
3 grim lavamancer(or mogg fanatic )
4 pop
4 incinerate
4 ankh
4 null(i love thise card)
3 blood moon
2 viashino heretic( VS worshop.dec and aggro as block)

SIDE:I don't play REB, becouse i don't like it. Blu are BEB in the side.It's rare i win a counter war for important cards

4 Tormond's Crypt (vs madnes, atog without scepter, dragon)
4 fire/ice (vs aggro, i don't like chain becouse it's a sorcery)
3 R&R(vs worshop.dec)
1 viashino heretic(vs worshop.dec, chalice, scepter....)
3 isochron scepter(test it. vs madness,aggro and monocolor decks. I have 12+4 pop istant for imprint. Test thise card, without tomb and city are a very slow card)

I don't find slot for cadet or slith, but i have 3 mishra.
I don't like fireblast in my deck.