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1  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: WUb Fish: Deck Discussion on: October 28, 2007, 10:02:11 pm
Does anyone have a nice idea what UWb could pack against Urphid?
I think Urphid has an extremely nice toolbox vs Fish in the SB, so we maybe just lose in 80% of all games.

Since Confidant is necessary to win against this deck in the long run and he plays so much removal (FTKavu, Fire-Ice, Sudden Shock, REB; Pyroblast) there is only a jitte-equipped Grunt or a luckily protected Confidant there to win the game.....

My ideas: Shadowmage Infiltrator (ok, we play T1, i know) who survives 2 damage, Grunts, Jitte, lots of Duress/Thoughtseize, Swords and E. Truth against Magus and Ophidian.

I think it is overall a bad matchup.

There are always going to be bad match-ups.  Meta-gaming to beat one deck (that isn't the most prevalent, dominating deck in the format at least) seems like a weak option.  Also, Shadowmage has been too slow in my legacy testing of WUb fish, and seems even worse in vintage.

I ran the deck today playing a 3 duress 2 thoughtseize make-up at RIW's mox ruby tourney in michigan to good results.  Lost to a raw-dogged Balance to clear my board and hand (FoW w/ no pitch spell in hand, him w/ 0 cards in hand  Sad ) in game 3 of top four.  Took a creature a couple times w/ thoughtseize, making me happy about the 3/2 breakdown.
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