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Looks pretty strong to me, combination with Chant or TimeWalk Effects or a massive Counter or Prison Shell could be a powerhouse.
Discuss!

I definately agree to Anusien's point here. I feel very uncomfortable if I had to play Leviathan MD.
Most decks play 0-3 MD answers to a fatty like DSC, so I want to abuse it's reshuffle ability with TfK and just have a bigger beater.
I play the Inkwell in the sideboard to exchange it with DSC in mostly every matchup, it just has these 'Oh hello!' surprise wins.

@Clique:
I tested it some time ago and I think it's just inferior to Mindcensor, the slightly faster clock doesn't justify it's inclusion over Censor.
The thing is, that you want to be the reactive part vs. tutor-heavy decks and many broken spells can be played in response to Clique's trigger.
Censor is just a gamebreaker vs. Tezzeret and some other decks, Clique is just a bad thoughtseize-effect on legs.

CyA
Aekhold

The whole discussion about additional situative winconditions is absolutely nonsense.
If you run the configuration of 2 Salvagers/3 Censors/3-4 Trinket Mages +TinkerDSC, you need none of these gimmicks
IF you run more than the 1 Echoing Truth. (My list runs 3 Repeals or 2 Repeals 1 Truth)
Chalice was never a huge threat for me, EE and Repeal handle it very efficently.

Another thing I'd like to mention:
Inkwell Leviathan should find it's place in our Sideboards?

I'd definately underline RJ's statement. Bomberman isn't hard to play at the first look but the ability to see what the deck's plan is and combine it with the fastest way to win.
At the Mindcensor discussion, I admit that I was totally wrong about his strenght.
I made some bad experiences with it some time ago but I just reintegrated it and now I'd never want to miss it.
Last sunday I placed 2nd in a tourney only losing to Ichorid 1-2 because of a mistake in deckconstruction (2 Honor the Fallen instead of the 2nd Crypt and the Relic of Progenitus). I won all other games (Mr. Gaddock, 2xStaxx, Painter) 2-0.
I'm definately satisfied with my list and I think it's the most powerful for nearly half a year.

// Lands
    4 Flooded Strand
    1 Library of Alexandria
    1 Polluted Delta
    1 Tolarian Academy
    4 Tundra
    4 Island

// Creatures
    2 Auriok Salvagers
    1 Darksteel Colossus
    4 Trinket Mage
    3 Aven Mindcensor

// Spells
    1 AEther Spellbomb
    1 Ancestral Recall
    1 Black Lotus
    1 Engineered Explosives
    4 Force of Will
    1 Mana Crypt
    4 Mana Drain
    1 Mystical Tutor
    2 Negate
    1 Ponder
    1 Sensei's Divining Top
    1 Sol Ring
    4 Thirst for Knowledge
    1 Time Walk
    1 Tinker
    1 Mox Emerald
    1 Mox Jet
    1 Mox Pearl
    1 Mox Ruby
    1 Mox Sapphire
    1 Fact or Fiction
    1 Brainstorm
    3 Repeal

// Sideboard
SB: 2 Tormod's Crypt
SB: 1 Pithing Needle
SB: 4 Ethersworn Canonist
SB: 2 Hurkyl's Recall
SB: 3 Meddling Mage
SB: 2 Energy Flux
SB: 1 Relic of Progenitus

It has lost the Merchant Scroll -> Echoing Truth and the 3rd Salvager. If you like, play 1 Repeal less for the Scroll but I never missed it.
I'm absolutely fine with just running 2 Salvagers.
The SB is directed to Combo, Staxx, Ichorid and Tezzeret/Painter.

Discuss!
Aekhold

This is my list for the tourney starting in 11 hours-.

// Lands
    4 Flooded Strand
    1 Library of Alexandria
    1 Polluted Delta
    1 Tolarian Academy
    4 Tundra
    4 Island

// Creatures
    3 Auriok Salvagers
    1 Darksteel Colossus
    3 Trinket Mage

// Spells
    1 AEther Spellbomb
    1 Ancestral Recall
    1 Black Lotus
    1 Engineered Explosives
    4 Force of Will
    1 Mana Crypt
    4 Mana Drain
    1 Merchant Scroll
    1 Mystical Tutor
    2 Negate
    1 Ponder
    2 Sensei's Divining Top
    1 Sol Ring
    4 Thirst for Knowledge
    1 Time Walk
    1 Tinker
    1 Mox Emerald
    1 Mox Jet
    1 Mox Pearl
    1 Mox Ruby
    1 Mox Sapphire
    1 Fact or Fiction
    1 Brainstorm
    1 Echoing Truth
    3 Repeal

// Sideboard
SB: 1 Engineered Explosives
SB: 1 Tormod's Crypt
SB: 1 Claws of Gix
SB: 4 Ethersworn Canonist
SB: 3 Hurkyl's Recall
SB: 1 Pithing Needle
SB: 4 Swords to Plowshares

Just a UW List with repeals because the presence of Wastelands and Null Rods. Im trying it with the configuration of 3 Mages and 2 Tops because the mega-abusive play with Repeal.

Greets,
Aekhold, whos ass is freezing off in good ol' germany

So, I tested all combinations in the 4 viable colors UWBR and just like the straight UW Version most.
I think UWr can do nothing better than UW. The Staxx matchup of UW Bomberman is good enough, you need no red to kill it.
I see you found another counter than me for slots 9&10. In my opinion, there are 3 cards available:
-Mana Leak
-Spell Snare
-Negate

Negate definately replaced Mana Leak and it was huge in my last 30+, which I ended 6-0 (5/0/1 team draw) and placed first. Negate was a powerhouse all the day. I think it depens on meta, but I think Negate is superior to all the other ''non-broken'' counters available in UWx.
I play around with Pyrite Spellbomb, but I think you have to see it as protection against painter if you play TinkerColoss. I'd never tutor up pyrite, if there's a creature I can't just ignore i search for EE or AEther Spellbomb.
At all, there isn't much difference between our lists, my SB was pretty good all day.

// Deck file for Magic Workstation
//NAME: UW Bomberman

// Lands
    4 Flooded Strand
    1 Library of Alexandria
    1 Polluted Delta
    1 Tolarian Academy
    4 Tundra
    4 Island

// Creatures
    3 Auriok Salvagers
    1 Darksteel Colossus
    4 Trinket Mage

// Spells
    1 AEther Spellbomb
    1 Ancestral Recall
    1 Black Lotus
    1 Engineered Explosives
    4 Force of Will
    1 Mana Crypt
    4 Mana Drain
    1 Merchant Scroll
    2 Misdirection
    1 Mystical Tutor
    2 Negate
    1 Ponder
    1 Sensei's Divining Top
    1 Sol Ring
    4 Thirst for Knowledge
    1 Time Walk
    1 Tinker
    1 Tormod's Crypt
    1 Mox Emerald
    1 Mox Jet
    1 Mox Pearl
    1 Mox Ruby
    1 Mox Sapphire
    1 Fact or Fiction
    1 Brainstorm
    1 Wipe Away

// Sideboard
SB: 1 Engineered Explosives
SB: 1 Tormod's Crypt
SB: 1 Claws of Gix
SB: 3 Ethersworn Canonist
SB: 3 Hurkyl's Recall
SB: 1 Pithing Needle
SB: 1 Sigil of Distinction
SB: 4 Swords to Plowshares

So, I made several playtestings with both UW and UWB for the tourney tomorrow and I hope some more experienced players will make some notes about them this night. At first the lists (which you can make changes to if you want to;sideboard included)
and then the exspected metagame:

UW: http://nopaste.org/p/aFL4Oifmgb
(3 exchangable slots of 2 Negate, 1 Misdirection vs. 3 Mindcensor)
UWB: http://nopaste.org/p/aRwVYkde2


So, feel free to comment anything you like to.
Greetz,
Aekhold

Pretty much based on 'The Wolf's list, some metagame changes. I just like the fourth Mana Drain and I don't want to many Duress' main vs. Fish and Staxx.
I'll maybe exchange Brain Freeze vs. Stroke of Genius, but I think nobody will play Gaea's Blessing so it will stay the Freeze.
I changed Fact or Fiction vs. Skeletal Scrying, I just don't like another Grave-dependant card.
2 Aurioks seems to low maybe, but with enough tutors and enough bombs it's enough for me. I just dont want a hand of 2 Salvagers in UWB. (Ponder is the slot of third Auriok)

Another thing I'd like to ask: Cut 1 offcolor-Mox for the Lotus Petal? Pls tell me if you've got real experiences with it.

1)I know in american metagame, Mindcensor is still a huge threat but in european metagame, it's not that good because the more elitary decks are not played by everyone, Misdirection is easily exchangeable for Mindcensor if I can find the other slot to cut for.
Maybe Mystical Tutor, Maybe FoF, maybe T-Crypt, any suggestions?
I'll try to replace leak with Negate.
Misdirection: WinsCounterwars, Protects spells and makes some nice plays when u have no counter, play ur threat in response to a good spell of them and u misdirect a counter on their threat. In addition to this MSD is just a matchwinner when they tutor up Ancestral. Since Gush isnt a threat any longer, people play their Recalls unsafe and I tried to abuse this, maybe a mistake.
Mindcensor is definately strong and wins some matches vs. Painter/Long and so on...

2) Could anyone reply to my orginial post?
-Inclusion of black for Tutors/Will/eventually Duress MD (and Duress/Extirpate SB)

Anybody has some playtestings with UW and UWB vs. Tezzerets.dec?
Maybe we should think about the redplash again for blasting Tezzeret?

I'd like to read all your thoughts (maybe some longer posts), I've got enough time to test and innovate so that we can come to a good list this week.

Greetz,
Aekhold

Pls answer my questions and make suggestions I need. I just quit playing Mindcensor because it sucked to hard. I will play it maybe if Tezzeret becomes a threat, but I don't see why I should lose to it now.
So, see my last post.

How it would be if anyone of you would post a UWB List with a) just tutors/Will/draw(Scrying maybe) and b) with Duress main.

I played a heavy-counter-suite yesterday expecting many drain-mirrors.
The result of it was that I had NO drain.dec as opponents nor any bluebased deck so  I run 3/2. (Its just a small tourney where some players test for bigger ones)
I played:
4 Force of Will
4 Mana Drain
2 Mana Leaks
2 Misdirection (getting Ancestrals with this card is so much fun)
At all, the mana leaks were really bad.
Maybe any suggestions what they've to be replaced with? Maybe Repeal, Negate, disrupt? ANY ideas`?

not played yesterday. Post-Alara list.

So, I'd try to fit in Demonic/Vampiric/Willl and change some SB cards to duress and Extirpate.
I'd cut 1 basic Island and 1 Tundra for 2 Underground Seas
Any other suggestions by Vegeta, Anusien or anyone other who is testing a blacksplash right now?

Actual list:
Last metagame:

I think the list is pretty optimal, but my SB makes me ill.
I believe Anusien when he says that Orim's Chant isn't the way to go vs. Storm.
So, any thoughts on changing the sb?
I think of cutting the Chants to get some Spell Snares in, maybe 3. So, 1 free slot and the Seals could be cut, because it isn't any longer necessary. Spell Snare is although good in control mirror with Drain.dec and Fish.
Any idea what to change then and what to do with the 3 free slots (from 1 Chant and 2 Seal of Cleansing)?

Greetz,
Aekhold

So, could have Tezzeret a place in our favourite deck to play? I think it could replace Mindcensor over time, it improves actually YOUR gameplan and doesn't just annoy your opponent, which is what Mindcensor does.
A card that can bring u to the combo win or just swing down your opp seems pretty nice to me.
So, any thoughts about it and what it could replace in the actual UW List?
Are more Artifacts important or is the amount enough (Mana+Trinket Mage toolbox)?
I lalalalala-like it!

Greez,
Aekhold

Its definately the most interesting card in the last time.
I will test it in Mindcensor's slot in bomberman and add another card.
As a 2off, I think it improves Bomberman's game plan, and its the most powerful finisher in a etabled drain.dec, because bomberman has enough artifacts because of Trinket-Mage toolbox.
I lalalala-like it!

So, after 3 weeks of intensive testing and a tournament with Bob-Bomberman I've come to the conclusion that UW is/would be definatlely superiour to UWB if we can find the right draw-pack/countersuite.
At the moment I'm playing 4 Force, 4 Drain and 1 Misdirection with Scroll in deck. I cut the 10th protection slot and the lonely ponder to test out 2 Lat-Nam's Legacy.
I know, at the first look it just creates CardQuality, but I think it generatres CardAdvantage (mostly virtually) by replacing a dead card with another that might work (for example Salvager #2, DSC, Censor in Staxx-Mu, to much counters with no threats and so on). Sure it's a pretty bad topdeck but this makes the deck more controlish by keeping some stuff in hand you might replace.
I don't know if this suits until I tested it more, but we definately need a solution to the 'I play control but run out out gas'-problem.
Maybe Intuition+Akkumuluated Knowledge, maybe cutting the Mindcensors (although I'm not quite sure on how broken they are at this time).
You want a draw-spell every eot to compensate not playing Bob.
Actual list

Oh my god. I thought people here think about what they write before they do.
Several reasons:
-Castable with Land&Mox (it's just dumb to think that you can play a Dark Confidant vs. Belcher for example or another fastcombo deck) and with this, a counter Turn 1 on the Play in addition to Force. It's not like I don't want Mana Drain, but I think this split is best in metagames with many early threats and wastelands.
- Mana Drain actually does more mana burn to us with many permanents you played before, if I drain a Force of Will, I mostly just get 5 mana burn. The fact is, Mana Leak is strictly better in the early turns and vs. Fish/Goblins/Fastcombo preboard.
-You can cast 2 Mana Leaks of 2 lands, 2 offcolor-mana. This is an advangte I'd never want to miss. 1 Mana Drain and nothing after it is worse.
People, just try this split in an UWB Build like mine and you will see it works pretty much better than 4/2. In UW its NO question that I'd play 4/2.

It's a metagame decision, not more. But it's definately powerful and funny to play.

The only problem vs. Long is when they start to play, but my new list (see end of post) honors it with a playset of Orim's Chant, which make it a good-really good match up postboard.
Maindeck Swords and Orim's Chant are not the things I want in the deck.

Its an old thing, many many maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaany people played it before me in Dark Gifts, Slaver, Bomberman, DrainTendrils, TPS and so on...
It's just not that you reveal it every game, mostly every 20th game and I'd never wanna miss Bob or Coloss.

If you like to ruin your safe combo turn, then play Will. I just dont like it in Bomberman because you have other things to do with ur mana and you shouldn't come to the very lategame because your critters can beat down your opponent if your combo mode doesn't work.




Cu,
Aekhold

Augure Adept is horrible, the only deck where it fits is Fish or a strange Ophidian-build.
Bomberman is NOT a Aggro/Control deck where you can play an overcosted MOST-situative CA-machine.
I deal with Trinket and I generated CA and it was more easy to cast for me, when I play against it.
It is just bad, believe it or die in slaughter.

My actual list (for Anusien or anybody else who feels competent enough to discuss this deck):

The list is definately fine, works well.
The main T-Crypt will probably go out for Needle and the SB EE mostly for anything against Null Rod because of MD Confidants.
The only thing I'm scared of is Null Rod in my Meta and I don't know if the TinkerColoss Plan, the Comboplan are fast enough or the 1 Echoign Truth main is enough for this.
Library is obv not in, you have to many things to pull out, like Confidant, Trinket Mage, your utility artifacts and on and on....
Repeal main vs. Null Rods (1/8 of the meta plays them I think, some Fish, some Suicide), Disenchant/Seal of Cleansing to beat it and Painter with it?
More later,
Aekhold

I have no idea why people come to this conclusions...
Does Djinn+ANY Ritual work for infinite mana?
No.
Does Djinn+Manamoprhose work for Infinite Draw?
No.

I just don't like the idea to have a Sideboard Card which is totally crap when I've lost G1. You got it by mentioning BrainFreeze, I'm a little traumatized because it kills us totally when we want to go off.
In combination with Mindcensor, 2 EEs and a other stuff like Needle and so on I dont think that they are abled to establish a situation with T-Crypt and the whole combo where we don't can interact. I've just lost a game where my opp ripped of Ancestral Recall from the top. Other games I drawed because I lost G1 and won G2 with the really surprising effect of Blessing, which is really huge.
Matches I won G1 I generally win 2:0, because .
This is one point I really like in Magic at all. You REALLY have to act. Really. You act like your really afraid of their combo or complain about how broken a 2-card combo for 6 mana is, so they not get a huge set up and try to get their combo out any costs although they create carddisadvantage.
(Complaining about your deck and your draw skills also helps.)

-4 Mana Drain
-2 Mana Leak
+1 Tormod's Crypt
+1 Engineered Explosives
+1 Pithing Needle
(+1 Chalice of the Void, if mana Ichorid to avoid Cabal Therapy and Chain of Vapor)
+2 Wrath of God
+X Orim's Chant (looks strange, but get time with Kicker and avoids Combokill and saves our handcards)

-2 Mana Leak
-1 Ponder (Sorcery, bad in Control-Role)
-1 Engineered Explosives (They mostly know that we have it and dont board EtW in because we can get it so easily. Vs their Mana I don't really like it, it just feeds Y-Will.)
+3 Orim's Chant
+1 Chalice of the Void
(+1 Tormod's Crypt for -1 Mindcensor for Will&Drawbased Variants)

-2 Mana Leak
-1 Tormod's Crypt
-1 Mindcensor (just to bad for this MatchUp)
-1 TfK/Ponder (depens on how many draw they have.
+2 Wrath of God
+2 Exalted Angel
+1 Chalice of the Void

I tested it, and it was really horrible for me. In addition to the reasons Anusien gave it was really hard to cast when you play vs. Aggro/Control with Waste-Effects and Shopdecks. MM is no classic Control card, you have no Drain Mana Up or anything else, it can't be cast with the Mana from Lotus from Trinket Mage. I think the main reason for Mindcensor is that it has Flash, so it can be played instead of the unused Counter at the end of turn.

@Anusien: Msg me for personal Messenger Contact, maybe some experiences we can exchange over it for the Primer or something like that.

Good Night,
Aekhold

I play a more general Ichorid Hate with 1 EE, 1 T-Crypt, 1 Needle in the side. See my actual list below.

I tried out Ancient Tomb in many versions, but basically I don't like the fact that u need an oncolor Mox to play Censor/Trinket Mage Turn 1, a Land + Mana Crypt actually happens more often and I'd never cut it. Basically, it's a decision if you want your cc3s (which Bomberman has enough from) Turn1 or Turn2 with 1 more mana which includes Life Loss.

I have LoA, Sol Ring, Mana Crypt and DrainMana and setting EE to 0 was never a problem for me.
Mana Crypt just affords such speed that you can race aggro and it's an additional artifact for Thirst if u need it.

At fish, i mostly play a trading-1vs1 creatures and get enough mana with Trinket Mages, Salvagers stall the game. I try to get their creature board empty and set the Chalice at 2 if I can manage it, so Null Rod, Jötun Grunt, Dark Confidant, Jitte..... are disabled. I basically Counter their dangerous threats, trade some creatures and then set Chalice 1 and Tinker or empty their board and set it to 2.

Actual list:

Just think about the third Chant, but I will decide this at the countryside. with 3 Chant, Chalice and maybe an additional T-Crypt for very Will-Based storms.
Hope will be enough for storm.

I'd board in CotV, too. Set up to 2 kills so many cards in their deck, mostly in UW and UWB Fish and most of the time they have no way to remove it @ Echoing Truth&Seal of Cleansing.

@Ancient Tomb: I play Mana Crypt instead of it, because I don't want to much non-blue-producing landdrops.
Team Vacaville plays both, ai?
The only Colorless-Producing Land I will play in Bomberman is LoA, Strip Mine is just to random and I don't play cards for an very random situation @LoA Counter.

My maindeck is pretty similar to Anusien's, just with -1 Strip Mine +1 Polluted Delta and -1 Pithing Needle +1 Mana Crypt, I will form my SB to 3 Orim's Chant and 1 Chalice.

I really like to see that somebody else tries to keep Bomberman alive, more, make it really competetive again.

At first, some matchup analysis from my own:
Control Slaver was a good matchup for Bomberman since I can think of these both decks fighting each other.
U/W Fish just dies when multiple Salvagers/Trinkets enter the Field. Fish is one of the best matchups for Bomberman so I dont think that this drastically changed with the time.
Could you maybe describe your matches vs. Goblins beside fast Coloss?
How do you come to the conclusion that you can pwn them, I really had problems vs. agressive lists with Bounce-Goblin.

Second, your list:
I totally agree to most of your choices, besides some single cards.
I found Tolaria West and Strip Mine and bad, Mine more than West. Maybe time is back for Tolaria West, I know its qualities.
I just don't think that a Strip Mine is worth to be played when you not play any other Mana Disruption. Sure you can kill a Academy/Workshop and eventually screw your opp, but another colorless land for a very situative effect which can grant your opp a little Time Walk....
Merchant Scroll>Mystical Tutor? Not pissed of when you get no Tinker if u want it? When you dont miss it, i agree to your choice.
Your TrinketBox seems pretty similar to my standard, although i dont play Pithing Needle main.

Third, your sb:
I play a TOTALLY different SB.
I think the Second Darksteel Colossus is absolutely nonsense if you not play Pyrite instead of AEther Spellbomb. You will mostly lose G1 vs. Painter, so Gaea's Blessing seems better for me, they will not get their Ancestral when you have your Censor down.
More EE in the side is pretty good, i play 1 additional in side with Moat, which is almost GG vs. Goblins/Fish/Ichorid/Staxx/WorkshopAggro.
// Sideboard
SB: 1  Engineered Explosives
SB: 3  Orim's Chant
SB: 4  Leyline of the Void (cause I play UWB)
SB: 1  Pithing Needle
SB: 1  Moat
SB: 1  Seal of Cleansing
SB: 3  Serenity
SB: 1  Darkblast

You can kill it yourself with EE when u go Combo, you just lose 1 Salvager.
How do use wrath in boarding?
In the last time, Flux got worse and worse, so i changed it to Serenity, which kills the entire board and you dont lose vs. critters they can hold on the table.
So, gimme some boarding plans vs. the decks u mentioned (played&contenders).

Hopefully a great discussion with you, Anusien
Greetz,
Aekhold

This sunday, our local tourney will be held up again.
The last metagame was:
1/5 Staxx
1/5 Painter-Combo
1/5 ComboControl like DrainTendrils, GushStorm
Some Fish,Sligh&Gobs
Some Oath
2-3 (nearly nothing) Fastcombo decks (1 Belcher, 1 Flash, 1 Grimlong)

Now I really have a problem of choosing the ''right'' Bomberman version for the next tourney.
First, the combination of colors is a matter:
UW
UWB
URWB
I'd like UW or UWB because of the huge amount of staxx, but UWB can play Dark Confidant, so it's also an option.

Second, the alternative plan:
Painter's Servant + Grindstone (with tutors for it? just 1/1 2/1 3/1?)
3 Stifle+1 Phyrexian Dreadnought?
Tinker+Darksteel Colossus?
Tinker+Darksteel Colossus+Painter's Servant+Grindstone (Which tutors besides Tinker?)

Anyone of you has experiences with the NewCombo in Bomberman-like-builds?
Can u give any tips of estimating a meta change? (I heard of a system where you give the Decks in the Meta points to estimate.)

Greets,
Aekhold

My last tournament with Bomberman last week showed me some new facts:
-I tried out a configuration of 4 Force of Will/4 Mana Drain/2 Mana Leak.
I really found Mana Leak bad. Maybe it was because of strange meta, but I think the 2 Misdirections I played before were much better.
-Cunning Wish was really fine for me, I played 2 of them for BrainFreeze, 1 Misdirection, Orim's Chant, Disenchant, Fact or Fiction and Swords to Plowhares.

So, nothing really new.
But wait:
My view of the Draw in Bomberman has changed. Thirst for Knowledge is just really slow and often doesnt help if u're screwed or search a counter/solution and dont have an artifact in hand because of you have not drawn one or you had to put yours into play to get into play.
So I think of other possible draws-engines.

Second our local metagame was spammed with 1/5 of PainterServant.dec and also another Bomberman besides me who played 1 Painter's Servant and 1 Grindstone with Demonic Tutor, Vampiric Tutor, Imperial Seal.
I think he played an additional Enlightned Tutor which he told me he would not play again.
So, I think of a UWB Bomberman with Dark Confidant and Painter's Servant+Grindstone:

Another thing I would like to know if anyone has experiences with 3 Stifle and 1 Phyrexian  Dreadnought.
How did u use Stifle otherwise than ManaDenial.
Any Experiences with Tinker+Darksteel Colossus in the board or a Tinker MD and a DSC in the board? (New thing with PainterStone Combo main?)
Any Experiences with Bob you'd like to mention?
Maybe a list with Salvagers, Trinkets and a Dreadnought in UW?

@Anusien: I totally agree that Gush+Bond is better than Thirst for Knowledge, but GushMan does nothing better than pure Gush.decs or pure Bomberman. Sure it's not bad at all but I just think it's not the way a Gushdeck should finish.
I would NEVER cut Sensei's Devining Top in classis Bomberman, it's just a control-mirror winner, its just provides ultra-Card Quality by a semi Brainstorm and stops topdecking, which is pretty bad in the control-mirror, which I think Bomberman should be played as, Control.


I explained my point of view of playing Gush or Bomberman, not a mixed version of both.

I tried them and they were horrible to me. This is definately a meta specific card and should just be played in GAT heavy metas.
I dislike them because u dont want to hold back more than 1 Mox, and a Empty for 3 Spells is just bad. I think the effect EtW has is not worth the split to a third color which kills one of the most loved factores in Bomberman: Redundancey&Constance

I really like the Control part of Bomberman and I'd never cut the tinker+DSC, Tinker is also Trinket Nr.5 for Combo Mode. In addition to this, DSC is absolutely one of my most favorite aggro staller/finishers.

@GushMan Debate:
Sure its more broken than Bomberman, buts its way to inconstant and i really dislike a combo deck which goes all in and cant finish in the same turn. Sure i didnt test this version very well, but at first i dont like GushBondage Engine and at Second, I just want constance with this deck, which it is designed for.

I dont have real troubles vs. GAT/GushStorm Decks, GAT is a good MU with my version and you can board down GushStorm, although if you mostly lose g1.

My Newest List for the Tourney Tomorrow:
// Lands
    4 Flooded Strand
    1 Polluted Delta
    4 Tundra
    3 Island
    1 Plains
    1 Library of Alexandria
    1 Tolarian Academy
(Any suggestions here?)

// Creatures
    3 Auriok Salvagers
    4 Trinket Mage
    1 Darksteel Colossus

// Spells
    1 Tinker
    4 Repeal (Meta specific, many Dreadnought.decks, this is really nuts vs. them and also good vs. ShopAggro's Spheres.)
    4 Thirst for Knowledge
    4 Brainstorm
    2 Misdirection
    4 Force of Will
    4 Mana Drain
    1 AEther Spellbomb
    1 Engineered Explosives
    1 Tormod's Crypt
    1 Time Walk
    1 Ancestral Recall
    1 Sensei's Divining Top
    1 Mox Emerald
    1 Mox Jet
    1 Mox Pearl
    1 Mox Ruby
    1 Mox Sapphire
    1 Black Lotus
    1 Mana Crypt
    1 Sol Ring
 // Sideboard
SB: 1 Tormod's Crypt
SB: 4 Energy Flux ( I just think its the best hate vs. Staxx/Mud/ShopAggro)
SB: 2 Disenchant (Maybe Seal of Cleansing? Does the instant have any improvements vs. the Enchantment? I think the opponent just plays around it. Mainly vs. Oath.)
SB: 2 Swords to Plowshares
SB: 2 Spell Snare (The superherocard. I really like them.
SB: 1 Pithing Needle
SB: 3 Orim's Chant

I'm interested in how Bomberman reacts/is able to react on the rise of Tyrant Oath. In my local metagame its really wide spread and dominates nearly each other deck except Ichorid.
So, main questions:
How to change/generally build up mainboard not to lose against Tyrant Oath? (Any specialties like 4+3+3 Counters?)
Whats the best sb card vs. them? (Or is a sb card boardable against more decks more effective, like Seal of Cleansing?)

Greetings,
Aekhold

Censoring Spheres v1.1

// Lands
    3 Bayou
    3 Scrubland
    2 Savannah
    4 Windswept Heath
    2 Bloodstained Mire

// Creatures
    3 Tarmogoyf
    4 Glowrider
    4 Dark Confidant
    3 Gaddock Teeg (Thank you TopSecret, I just didn't noticed that he's legendary.)
    4 Aven Mindcensor

// Spells
    1 Mana Crypt
    1 Black Lotus
    4 Thoughtseize
    4 Sphere of Resistance
    4 Thorn of Amethysts
    4 Duress
    1 Mox Sapphire
    2 AEther Vial (I tested all variants from 2-4. 2 are fine, to cheat colors if you're screwed and do tricky things.)
    1 Mox Emerald
    1 Mox Jet
    1 Mox Pearl
    1 Mox Ruby
    4 Swords to Plowshares (Yeah, you're all right. This creature removal is needed. Exspecially vs. Tinker->Colossus)

So, my(/Team Broken Rhytms) addition to the discussion:

Boarding in Chains of Mepphistopeles:
Uhm, GAT, Doomsday and stuff like this. But I think we can remove it from the sideboard, because we've
a good MU vs. both of them. This 2 Chains shouldn't change it.

Dark Rituals:
No, I totally disagree with them.
They are so bad and getting worse with every Sphere-effect. In addition to this, you need 2 mana at your first turn to play a Sphere and most of cc3 Combinations can't use BBB.

Swords to Plowshares:
Yes, you're right. Better than Snuff Out  and even good vs. Staxx's big beaters, to stop them from returning (for example Triskelion and Titan).

Gaddock Teeg:
At all, it is not (!) vs. Massacre but it also shut it down. Its another mustcounter in nearly every MU with Forces.
The real bad things it disables:
-Gush !!!!
-Force
-EE
-Chalice !! (exspecially with just 2 Vials main)
Tendrils ( In this case, its another Sphere, sure, storm based combo decks are easy to beat, but Teeg makes it more easy)
So, it disables these cards! Totally. So, i really think it is worth to play.
Of course it can be (ab)used more, but its a very nice addition to the deck's theme.

Tarmogoyf/Jötun Grunt:
So, we had a discussion about that and i can think of the problem with these both.
We decided to play Goofies because:
-It's the most broken creature for 2 mana in this time.
-It's not depending on graveyard cards like Grunt.
-Most of the time, Grunt is bigger than Grunt (a 6/7er beatstick for 1G is just ridicoulos).
@Mith: So, he has a utility. He finishs off our opponent and blocks other big creatures Grunt.
 
Root Maze:
Noticed. We think about its including in the deck.
But Goyf and Teeg look like made for the deck.


Greetings,
Aekhold for Team Broken Rhytm

First of all hi all. I'm member of  team "Broken Rythm" from Germany and would like to give my latest "creation" which is based on several cards from Lorwyn, free for discussion.
The cards in question are:

Thoughtseize     
Sorcery (R)   
Target player reveals his or her hand. Choose a nonland card from it. That player discards that card.
You lose 2 life.

Thorn of Amethyst    
Artifact (R)   
Noncreature spells cost    more to play.

Gaddock Teeg   
Legendary Creature - Kithkin Advisor    (R)
Noncreature spells with converted mana cost 4 or greater can't be played.
Noncreature spells with  in their mana costs can't be played.
2/2

Now to the list:

Team "Broken Rythm" - Censoring Spheres

// Lands
    3  Bayou
    3  Scrubland
    2  Savannah
    4  Windswept Heath
    2  Bloodstained Mire

// Creatures
    3  Tarmogoyf
    4  Glowrider
    4  Dark Confidant
    4  Gaddock Teeg
    4  Aven Mindcensor

// Spells
    1  Mana Crypt
    1  Black Lotus
    4  Thoughtseize
    4  Sphere of Resistance
    4  Thorn of Amethyst
    4  Duress
    1  Mox Sapphire
    4  AEther Vial
    1  Mox Emerald
    1  Mox Jet
    1  Mox Pearl
    1  Mox Ruby

// Sideboard
SB: 1  Tarmogoyf
SB: 4  Kataki, War's Wage
SB: 4  Leyline of the Void
SB: 2  Yixlid Jailer
SB: 2  Serenity
SB: 2  Chains of Mephistopheles

Basically the Deck plays similar to the old WR TMWA builds featuring "9spheres" and disruptive creatures like Aven Mindcensor and Magus of the Moon: You try to slow your opponent down by laying down spheres while trying to get down your creatures and smash face.
The main difference between this deck and similar TMWA builds is that you get to play many cards that achieve similar goals ( for example the 12 spheres or the 8 duress) which makes it very consistent because you will most likely have either a duress or a mox and a sphere in your opening 7 which should give you game even against the faster combo-decks (like hulk-flash).
Once you hit 3 Mana it gets even spicier: You will get to play Aven Mindcensor (which is huge against Flash and GAT) and Glowriders (which can be the nail in the coffin especially if you played 1 or more spheres before, because such a play basically disables the gush-drawengine). In addition to that you are not very vulnerable to counters/disruption because of the high redundancy and of course your Vials.
The Deck also features a decent clock given that you play 20 creatures (all beating for 2+) which is quite a lot.

Match ups:

Based on our limited testing I'm quite confident that this deck simply annihilates storm combo, not only because of the Spheres, but also because once Gaddock Teeg resolves all their win conditions are shut down (except for Tinker->Collossus perhaps) and they will have to search for an answer which is not all that easy against a lot of spheres, Mindcensor and multiple duresses.

Against Flash you basically need mainphases. Seriously, if you don't get to play your cards it's over and that's why we have Leyline in the sb and 8 duress main. When you get 1 or more mainphases you should be able to slow them down by playing spheres and duresses until you resolve a Mindcensor (which spells doom to Flash) or enough other disruption critters to be able to beat down for the win.

The GAT match seems to depend on whether you are able to resolve enough spheres (which are huge in this matchup) or Gaddock Teeg (who has a devastation effect on their  draw-engine and their counters as well). If you are you are in a good shape and likely to win the match. When things go wrong you will still have lots of creatures to throw in front of theirs to give you more time.

Staxx is a bit tricky and certainly not one of the best Matchups, because huge Artifact creatures just kick your ass (depending on the Staxx build and draw of course). It's not an auto-loss but a good reason to have Kataki and Serenity in your sideboard.

Ichorid is.... well Ichorid. Preboard they beat you, postboard you usually have enough hate and spheres which make it difficult for them to resolve answers such as Emerald Charm and Reverant Silence. The combo-kill is disabled by the spheres as well.

Feedback and critics would be appreciated as well as sb suggestions.