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1  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: [Article And Deck Discussion] Constructing Uw Artifact Agro on: October 10, 2008, 12:26:10 am
i like this built. but i want null rod on this deck.
2  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: WUb Fish: Deck Discussion on: January 28, 2008, 04:29:27 am
congrats dave, but why 2 stifles?

is there no ichorid player? becouse i think you can't handle zombie token.
3  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: WIZARDS!...A deck by Elias Vaisberg on: January 28, 2008, 04:14:53 am
sideboard options.

vs ichorid : yixlid jailer
vs oath(or maybe stax): stern proctor
4  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: WUb Fish: Deck Discussion on: January 23, 2008, 10:48:23 pm
@Everrid1234: Tarmogroyfs? with 4 leyline after sideboard and jotun grunt is enough. But those two never came up.
                     Blue blast -> burn/goblin.

@EVG: - i didn't have another underground sea Razz
          - E.Truth -> pitch for force of will, can bounce token (bridge from below - zombie infestation - empty the warren).
                          Stp give your opponent life and can only target creature.
          - Vamp & mystical - put on top lybrary.
          - Demonic - a good card, but i think it's not on my slot.
          - Leyline - yes, it cut my grunt life time. But my opponent (i think there would be 2 C.Slaver , 2 Ichorid and affinity) hard to win.

vs mono black : dauthi horror, dark confidant, dauthi warlord, duress, carnopage, sacromancy and forgot
vs aggro stax : gorrila shaman, smoke stax, Lightning bolt, juggernaut, duplicant, welder, chalice of the void and forgot
vs dawn of the dead : dark confidant, tarmogroyf, jotun grunt, stp, and forgot
vs Back to Basic : Back to basic, morphling, mana drain, force of will, spell snare, mana leak, powder keg, and forgot
5  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: WUb Fish: Deck Discussion on: January 22, 2008, 10:05:12 pm
i take 4th place. 12 people was participate. this is my list.

mana source(18):
3 flooded strand
3 polluted delta
3 tundra
1 underground sea
2 island
1 swamp
4 wasteland
1 strip mine

creature(13):
4 meddling mage
4 dark confidant
3 jotun grunt
2 kataki

instant(14):
4 force of will
2 daze
4 brainstorm
1 ancestrall recall
3 echoing truth
1 dark blast

sorcery(6):
2 ponder
1 timewalk
3 duress

artifact(7):
3 null rod
1 black lotus
3 moxen

enchantment(2):
2 leyline of the void

sideboard(15):
2 leyline of the void
2 energy flux
2 umezawa's jitte
3 seal of cleansing
3 blue elemental blast
3 extirpate

round 1 vs mono black suicide : 2-1
round 2 vs aggro stax : 2-1
round 3 vs Dawn of the dead : 0-2
round 4 vs Back to basic : 2-0

i cut 3 stifle for 1 dark blast and 2 leyline of the void.

dark blast -> welder, dark confidant, gorilla shaman, and another */1 creature.
leyline of the void -> Control slaver, and another deck with yawgmoth will.

i like this built. what do you think about my deck?
6  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: WUb Fish: Deck Discussion on: November 12, 2007, 08:06:28 pm
This is my current list.

Creature(16):
4 Meddling Mage
4 Dark Confidant
3 Jotun Grunt
2 Kataki, Wars Wage
3 Aven Mindcencor

Instant(14):
4 Brainstorm
4 Force of Will
3 Daze
2 Sword to Plowshares
1 Ancestral Recall

Sorcery(4):
3 Duress
1 Time Walk

Enchantment(3):
3 Oblivion Ring

Artifact(5):
2 Null Rod
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Jet

Land(17):
4 Flooded Strand
3 Polluted Delta
3 Tundra
2 Underground Sea
1 Stripmine
2 Island
1 Plains
1 Swamp

SideBoard (15):
4 Leyline of The Void
1 Sword to Plowshares
2 Energy Flux
4 Extirpate
2 Umezawa's Jitte
2 Echoing Truth

I run Oblivion Ring because i hate chalice at 2. It can remove non-land permanent and it's an Enchantment.

I think Thoughtseize would replace duress now. Thoughtseize can discard creature card like Dryad,Atog and many more.

By the way, versus GAT, you cast Thoughtseize. in opponent hands has Polluted Delta, Quirion Dryad, Psychatog, Brainstorm, underground sea, Gush, Force of Will. Which card you choose to discard?

7  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: UW FISH: Teh Primer! on: April 30, 2007, 09:33:32 pm
Sideboard  (15 cards)
2   Azorius Guildmage
1   Jotun Grunt   
1   Kataki, War's Wage   
1   Ronom Unicorn
1   Kami of Ancient Law
1   Echoing Truth   
1   Sword to Plowshares
1   Stifle
1   Null Rod
2   Disencant
3   Umezawa's Jitte

uwfish2000 congrats on the win. I like the games u listed...total massacres.
I gotta ask a quick q about your SB though. What matchups/deck scenario u putting in Azorius Guildmage for and whats she replacing? I like the 2x but im just curious

if i knew that opponent have massacre, then i play only 2 creatures in play.
Azorius is for control slaver,Pernicious Deed, EE ,and Fetchland. Replacing jotun grunt. In my experience Jotun grunt is a delicious meat for Duplicant.

@ wethepeople : I'm Sorry... it's my first time to talk to other people around the world. I'm Happy because i have a friend that discussing about UW Fish. last year i have a friend that i can discussing with. Now i'm just alone.
Thx
8  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: UW FISH: Teh Primer! on: April 29, 2007, 09:34:15 pm
i think Rootwater thief not that good. You can remove card from his/her library not in his/her hand.

@wethepeople: it's ok if you lose interest, but i'm a player who want to learn anything from UW Fish. So i can be a UW Fish master Like anyone on this thread.

i would thanx to Dave, Jeff, Stamford, webster. Because off you all yesterday i win the tournament. But again i break the rules.
I built my version because there a lot of "Fish" (if i can say).

This is which i play yesterday:

Creatures (16)
3   Savannah Lions
1   Isamaru, Hound of Konda   
3   Jotun Grunt   
3   Kataki, War's Wage   
4   Meddling Mage   
2   Ninja of the Deep Hours

Spells (21)
1   Ancestral Recall
4   Brainstorm
3   Daze
4   Force of Will
3   Stifle   
2   Echoing Truth
3   Swords to Plowshares   
1   Time Walk   

Artifacts (5)
2   Null Rod   
1   Black Lotus
1   Mox Sapphire
1   Mox Pearl

Lands (18)
4   Flooded Strand   
3   Island   
2   Plains   
1   Polluted Delta   
1   Strip Mine
3   Tundra   
3   Wasteland   
1   Windswept Heath
   
Sideboard  (15 cards)
2   Azorius Guildmage
1   Jotun Grunt   
1   Kataki, War's Wage   
1   Ronom Unicorn
1   Kami of Ancient Law
1   Echoing Truth   
1   Sword to Plowshares
1   Stifle
1   Null Rod
2   Disencant
3   Umezawa's Jitte

This is my result :
1. Vs Burn 2-0
2. Vs Control Slaver 2-1
3. Vs MUD 2-1
4. Vs Bwg Hate? 2-0

Vs Control Slaver And MUD I have A very2 damn Luck. Last year i never win against these deck.

against Bwg hate I never win on test deck. He is my friend but on final i have to win

Round 1:
1st turn i drop Windsweapt done. He drop Windsweapt too, done. i play meddling mage naming River Boa. he play dark confidant done. i drop wasteland target bayou, cast Time Walk done. I play stripmine target scrubland, cast jotun grunt done. soon and so far i win the game.

1 - 0
SB : -4 Force of Will,-3 Daze,-2 Null Rod,-1 Echoing Truth,+3 Jitte,+1 Ronom,+1 Kami of Ancient Law,+1 Jotun,+1 STP,+1 Stifle,+2 Azorius guildmage

Round 2:
he play duress, discard STP, Play mox jet cast Pithing needle naming Wasteland. i cast Isamaru , done. He cast Riverboa done. i play Kataki, done. End my turn he Vampiric tutor something. upkeep he draw and forgot to pay kataki. so he sacrifice mox and pithing. he cast night wishper, done. i play mox sapphire cast meddling mage naming negator, isamaru and kataki attack he block kataki and river boa can't regenerate. he play demonic Tutor cast black lotus. in play there meddling mage and jotun, attack and his life 4 more left. sacrifice black lotus cast Pernicious deed and sacrifice on 2 and i stifle.

2-0

Time walk is realy strong. Thanx to all. Next Monday will be a tournament again. i hope i can win again.
Thx to read my post.
9  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: UW FISH: Teh Primer! on: April 27, 2007, 03:04:14 am
The reason i play 3 brainstorm is, brainstorm is not a drawer, it just replace a 1-3 bad card with 1-3 good card (Silly isn't it) Sad
i subtitute it with a creature or another instant spell.

Time walk is a great card, sure it is! But i think in my version i don't need a sorcery card. i need another spell solution or creature. with 21 mana i almost find my land is between 2-3 (i don't know why). so, if it countered it's time walk myself  Sad

Ninja is a great card too. i almost paly it in 2nd turn. may be i play it wrong? because someone told me that ninja is play only if my hand is near empty. i like ninja because it help me to face Enginereed Explosive. in my meta EE always MD in opponent deck.

ow BTW, which sideboard should i pick if i face Control slaver and how to play it?

Thx  Very Happy
10  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: UW FISH: Teh Primer! on: April 27, 2007, 12:29:28 am
@webster & jeffthefob : Thanx. I will change my deck and return it to 3 Null Rod Again.

@dave : Your comment help me a lot. it give me, what can i say it..... a light? because vs TMWA on test deck or tournament i never win.

Ow, By the way, did my version is too aggro? Because there's no combo player so i built these deck.
Comment will very2 helpfull...
11  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / re : U/W Fish the Primer! on: April 26, 2007, 03:52:40 am
ouch sorry... that is my fisrt post  Sad
well this is my latest deck list. I will play it this Monday.

creature (19):
2 Savannah Lions
1 Isamaru, Hound Of Konda
3 Stormscape Apprentice
4 Meddling Mage
3 Jotun Grunt
2 Kataki, War's Wage
2 True Believer
2 Ninja of The Deep Hour

Instant (16):
3 Brainstorm
1 Ancestrall Recall
2 Echoing Truth
3 Sword to Plowshares
3 Stifle
3 Daze
4 Force of Will

Atrifact (5):
2 Null Rod
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Pearl

Land (17):
4 Flooded Strand
1 Polluted Delta
1 Windswept Heath
3 Tundra
2 Island
1 Plain
1 Strip Mine
4 Wasteland

SideBoard :
3 Umezawa's Jitte
2 Disenchant
2 Seal of Cleansing
1 Null Rod
1 Kataki, War's Wage
1 Jotun Grunt
1 Kami of Ancent Law
1 Ronom Unicorn
1 True Believer
1 Stifle
1 Echoing Truth

Stormscape - to tap creature like Darksteel Colloseus, Jotun Grunt, Ichorid, other bigger creature
True Believer - I Hate Duress, Cabal Terapy, etc...
Ninja of The Deep Hour - not die with Enginereed Explosive and drawer
Stifle - Fetchland, Viridian Shaman, etc...
Kami & Ronom - Oath
Jitte - Vs Elf,Goblin,TMWA,etc...


Why i play just 2 Null Rod not 3 on MD:


in my meta 2 Null Rod is more than fine. if i make it 3, i almost find it 2 in my hand. And i hate it. Beside Ninja and Brainstorm can help me to find this card. if is not, i'm so unlucky :p

Now i want to ask something? Can this deck win Versus TMWA? Comment will helpfull. Thx. all.

PS: Sorry if my english bad...
12  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: UW FISH: Teh Primer! on: April 23, 2007, 10:59:28 pm
Hi All, i'm a player from Indonesia. I like u/w fish alot and i never splice it with black. Thanks to Dave, Jeff Huang, and Sergio Perez that wins with u/w fish. In my country no one plays combo deck, so which deck live in my country is :

1. Control Slaver
2. MUD
3. Stax Variants
4. TMWA
5. Psychatog
6. Burn
7. Ravager
8. Manaless Ichorid & Mana Ichorid
9. Bomberman
10. ELF!
11. U/W Fish
12. Oath

And this is my Latest Build :

Land (18):
4 Flooded Strand
1 Polluted Delta
1 Windsweaptheat
3 Tundra
3 Island
1 Plain
4 Wasteland
1 Stripmine


Creature (18):
1 Savannah Lion
1 Isamaru
3 Stormcape
3 Jotun
3 Kataki
4 Meddling Mage
3 Ninja

Spell (19):
3 Brainstorm
4 Force of will
3 Daze
3 Stifle
2 Echoing Truth
3 STP
1 Recall

Artifact (5):
2 Null Rod
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Pearl


Sideboard :
3 Jitte
2 Seal of cleansing
1 Kami of ancient Law
1 Ronom Unicorn
1 kataki
1 null rod
1 Echoing truth
1 jotun
2 BEB
2 Hibernation

I want All comment for my built and thx for read my post.

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