One of the big things I would like to see is a way to turn my old vintage encyclopedia project into a community project.  I know it has been used in the past to get new players to look at the format and has gotten older, semi-retired players to think about coming back.  I know there are still many people willing to do a lot of work on it.

I feel like community projects like the encyclopedia are in line with the direction this site is heading.  If there is a way to make a post so that it is able to be edited by anyone, I think that would work.  I currently have all the posts in that thread saved as individual notepad files if that is of any use, I would be happy to email them or put them up on a file share site.

Another idea I would like to see is a map (US and world) with LGS that run vintage events and their information.  No clue how we would do it, but it would be a great tool for anyone looking to start out.  And to add to that the ability to tag yourself as a regular attendee of a shop so people can easily message each other to form playtest groups.

If we want vintage to survive we must continually strive to build our community.

This plus zombie infestation seems ok.  And since the deck is base black it can handle the other, better, token generators.  Doubt it is tier 1, but it might be a good deck.

Sorry for the late posting, work gets in the way sometimes.  We had 28 players attend Legacy on Saturday and 30 for Vintage on Sunday.  Results below, thanks to everyone that came out.

Vintage Top 8 Decklists (9/20/2015)

Jonathan Suarez-1st Place
Grixis Thieves

1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Time Walk
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Black Lotus
2 Notion Thief
1 Snapcaster Mage
1 Blightsteel Colossus
1 Time Vault
1 Voltaic Key
1 Lightning Bolt
1 Dismember
1 Ponder
1 Brainstorm
3 Preordain
2 Dig Through Time
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
3 Dack Fayden
1 Pyroblast
4 Force of Will
3 Mental Misstep
1 Yawgmoth’s Will
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Flusterstorm
1 Treasure Cruise
1 Tinker
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sol Ring
3 Polluted Delta
4 Scalding Tarn
1 Library of Alexandria
3 Volcanic Island
3 Underground Sea
1 Island
1 Tolarian Academy

Sideboard
1 Mountain
4 Ingot Chewer
1 Flusterstorm
1 Dismember
1 Toxic Deluge
2 Ravenous Trap
4 Grafdigger’s Cage
1 Engineered Explosives

William Aitken-2nd Place
Merfolk

4 Lord of Atlantis
4 Master of the Pearl Trident
4 Phantasmal Image
3 Silvergill Adept
4 Cursecatcher
4 True-Name Nemesis
1 Harbinger of the Tides
1 Misdirection
1 Flusterstorm
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Black Lotus
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
3 Null Rod
3 Mental Misstep
4 Force of Will
1 Dismember
4 Cavern of Souls
4 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
10 Island

Sideboard
1 Karakas
3 Grafdigger’s Cage
2 Propaganda
2 Dismember
2 Steel Sabotage
2 Hurkyl’s Recall
1 Annul
2 Tormod’s Crypt

Chad Hord-3rd Place
MUD

2 Phyrexian Revoker
3 Phyrexian Metamorph
4 Lodestone Golem
1 Karn, Silver Golem
1 Steel Hellkite
2 Wurmcoil Engine
4 Thorn of Amethyst
3 Sphere of Resistance
1 Trinisphere
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Tangle wire
2 Smokestack
1 Thran Dynamo
1 Sol Ring
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Black Lotus
1 Coercive Portal
2 Crucible of Worlds
4 Mishra’s Workshop
3 Ancient Tomb
1 City of Traitors
2 Homeward Path
1 Cavern of Souls
1 Strip Mine
1 Tolarian Academy
4 Wasteland


Sideboard
2 Ratchet Bomb
2 Platinum Angel
3 Dismember
2 Torpor Orb
4 Grafdigger’s Cage
2 Duplicant

Kipp Callahan-4th Place
MUD

3 Hangarback Walker
4 Lodestone Golem
4 Tangle Wire
4 Sphere of Resistance
4 Thorn of Amethyst
3 Chalice of the Void
1 Trinisphere
4 Phyrexian Revoker
3 Phyrexian Metamorph
4 Arcbound Ravager
1 Sol Ring
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Black Lotus
1 Mana Crypt
4 Mishra’s Workshop
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Wasteland
4 Mishra’s Factory
1 Strip Mine
1 Tolarian Academy

Sideboard
1 Hangarback Walker
2 Sword of Fire and Ice
2 Dismember
1 Phyrexian Metamorph
3 Grafdigger’s Cage
3 Tormod’s Crypt
3 Ghost Quarter

Michael Braverman-5th Place
U/R/W Delver

2 Dack Fayden
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Young Pyromancer
1 Treasure Cruise
1 Time Walk
4 Preordain
1 Ponder
3 Gitaxian Probe
3 Dig Through Time
3 Gush
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Brainstorm
4 Mental Misstep
1 Flusterstorm
1 Pyroblast
2 Lightning Bolt
2 Swords to Plowshares
4 Force of Will
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
2 Island
1 Strip Mine
2 Tundra
3 Volcanic Island
4 Scalding Tarn
3 Polluted Delta

Sideboard
1 Pyroblast
1 Mountain
3 Ingot Chewer
2 Pulverize
2 Containment Priest
4 Grafdigger’s Cage
1 Wear // Tear
1 Shattering Spree

David Courson-6th Place
BUG Control

1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Brainstorm
2 Lightning Bolt
3 Mental Misstep
1 Flusterstorm
1 Spell Pierce
1 Spell Snare
1 Thoughtseize
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Grafdigger’s Cage
4 Deathrite Shaman
1 Time Walk
3 Snapcaster Mage
3 Dark Confidant
1 Null Rod
1 Demonic Tutor
3 Abrupt Decay
2 Dack Fayden
1 True-Name Nemesis
1 Trygon Predator
1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
4 Force of Will
1 Strip Mine
3 Wasteland
2 Tropical Island
2 Volcanic Island
3 Underground Sea
2 Polluted Delta
2 Misty Rainforest
2 Scalding Tarn
1 Flooded Strand

Sideboard
2 Red Elemental Blast
2 Yixlid Jailer
2 Nihil Spellbomb
2 Illness in the Ranks
1 Sudden Shock
1 Dismember
2 Energy Flux
1 Ancient Grudge
1 Nature’s Claim
1 Steel Sabotage

Timothy Walters-7th Place
Oath

3 Griselbrand
4 Force of Will
4 Mental Misstep
4 Preordain
3 Show and Tell
2 Misdirection
1 Brainstorm
1 Ponder
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Maelstrom Pulse
4 Oath of Druids
3 Mana Drain
2 Flusterstorm
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1 Sol Ring
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Ruby
4 Polluted Delta
4 Forbidden Orchard
2 Underground Sea
2 Tropical Island
2 Island
1 Flooded Strand

Sideboard
3 Nihil Spellbomb
3 Nature’s Claim
2 Pithing Needle
3 Abrupt Decay
4 Ravenous Trap

Phillip Braverman-8th Place
U/W/B Mentor

1 Brainstorm
1 Ponder
2 Preordain
4 Mental Misstep
1 Flusterstorm
2 Sensei’s Divining Top
1 Balance
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Mystical Tutor
4 Monastery Mentor
1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Tinker
1 Yawgmoth’s Will
4 Thoughtseize
4 Force of Will
1 Misdirection
1 Inkwell Leviathan
1 Dig Through Time
1 Treasure Cruise
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
2 Mox Opal
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Ruby
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Tolarian Academy
2 Underground Sea
2 Tundra
4 Seat of the Synod
4 Flooded Strand

Sideboard
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Flusterstorm
4 Rest in Peace
2 Annul
1 Swords to Plowshares
3 Disenchant
1 Island
1 Plains
1 Blightsteel Colossus



Legacy (9/19/2015)

Michael Braverman-1st Place
Shardless BUG

4 Tarmogoyf
2 Baleful Strix
4 Deathrite Shaman
4 Shardless Agent
4 Abrupt Decay
4 Force of will
2 Thoughtseize
3 Hymn to Tourach
4 Brainstorm
1 Jace, The Mind Sculptor
2 Liliana of the Veil
2 Ancestral Vision
2 Dig Through Time
2 Wasteland
4 Polluted Delta
2 Creeping Tar Pit
3 Underground Sea
1 Swamp
4 Verdant Catacombs
2 Bayou
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Misty Rainforest
2 Tropical Island

Sideboard
2 Flusterstorm
1 Swan Song
1 Pithing Needle
1 Hymn to Tourach
1 Notion Thief
3 Nihil Spellbomb
2 Toxic Deluge
1 Golgari Charm
2 Disfigure
1 Baleful Strix
1 Vendilion Clique

Phillip Braverman-2nd Place
Miracles

4 Ponder
4 Brainstorm
4 Sensei’s Divining Top
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Counterbalance
2 Counterspell
2 Vendilion Clique
1 Jace, The Mind Sculptor
4 Force of Will
3 Dig Through Time
4 Terminus
1 Entreat the Angels
4 Island
2 Plains
4 Flooded Strand
4 Scalding Tarn
2 Arid Mesa
3 Tundra
2 Volcanic Island

Sideboard
1 Mountain
4 Pyroblast
1 Spell Pierce
1 Flusterstorm
2 Wear/Tear
1 Pyroclasm
2 Meddling Mage
3 Monastery Mentor

Kipp Callahan-3rd Place
4-Color Delver

4 Misty Rainforest
4 Polluted Delta
4 Wasteland
2 Underground Sea
3 Volcanic Island
1 Tropical Island
4 Deathrite Shaman
4 Young Pyromancer
4 Delver of Secrets
2 Gurmag Angler
4 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
3 Gitaxian Probe
4 Ponder
4 Daze
4 Lightning Bolt
2 Dig Through Time
2 Forked Bolt
1 Pyroblast

Sideboard

2 Surgical Extraction
1 Pyroblast
1 Red Elemental Blast
1 Darkblast
1 Izzet Staticaster
2 Pithing Needle
1 Vendilion Clique
3 Cabal Therapy
1 Dismember
1 Ancient Grudge
1 Grafdigger’s Cage

Collins Mullen-4th Place
Elves

1 Scavenging Ooze
4 Glimpse of Nature
4 Deathrite Shaman
4 Nettle Sentinel
4 Wirewood Symbiote
4 Heritage Druid
4 Quirion Rangers
2 Birchlore Rangers
4 Elvish Visionary
4 Natural Order
2 Craterhoof Behemoth
4 Green Sun’s Zenith
2 Dryad Arbor
4 Gaea’s Cradle
2 Forest
2 Bayou
1 Taiga
3 Wooded Foothills
3 Windswept Heath
2 Verdant Catacombs

Sideboard
1 Progenitus
1 Reclamation Sage
3 Abrupt Decay
4 Cabal Therapy
2 Thoughtseize
4 Blood Moon

Matthew Horne-5th Place
U/W/R Miracles

4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
4 Sensei’s Divining Top
4 Counterbalance
4 Force of Will
1 Counterspell
2 Pyroblast
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Terminus
1 Council’s Judgement
2 Dig Through Time
3 Monastery Mentor
3 Snapcaster Mage
3 Tundra
3 Volcanic Island
3 Island
2 Plains
4 Flooded Strand
4 Polluted Delta
1 Arid Mesa

Sideboard

1 Cavern of Souls
2 Vendilion Clique
2 Wear/Tear
1 Blood Moon
1 Izzet Staticaster
1 Pyroclasm
2 Flusterstorm
1 Red Elemental Blast
2 Surgical Extraction
2 Ethersworn Canonist

Bob Huang-6th Place
4-Color Delver

4 Polluted Delta
4 Scalding Tarn
3 Volcanic Island
2 Underground Sea
1 Tropical Island
4 Wasteland
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Deathrite Shaman
4 Young Pyromancer
2 Gurmag Angler
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
4 Gitaxian Probe
2 Dig Through Time
4 Daze
4 Force of Will
1 Spell Pierce
4 Lightning Bolt
1 Forked Bolt

Sideboard
2 Pithing Needle
1 Ancient Grudge
2 Surgical Extraction
3 Cabal Therapy
1 Izzet Staticaster
1 Darkblast
3 Pyroblast
1 Dismember
1 Vendilion Clique

Thomas Pendergast-7th Place
Dragon Stompy

1 Murderous Redcap
1 Tuktuk Scrapper
1 Stingscourger
1 Goblin Settler
1 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
2 Siege-Gang Commander
3 Goblin Rabblemaster
3 Koth of the Hammer
3 Magus of the Moon
4 Blood Moon
4 Simian Spirit Guide
4 Moggcatcher
4 Trinisphere
2 Chrome Mox
4 Chalice of the Void
2 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Sword of Body and Mind
10 Mountains
4 Ancient Tomb
4 City of Traitors
2 Cavern of Souls

Sideboard
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
2 Jaya Ballard, Task Mage
2 Sudden Shock
2 Pyrokinesis
2 Sulfur Elemental
2 Anarchy
2 Boil
2 Bonfire of the Damned

Christopher Coppola-8th Place
BUG Delver

4 Deathrite Shaman
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Tarmogoyf
1 True-Name Nemesis
2 Dismember
3 Abrupt Decay
4 Hymn to Tourach
4 Daze
4 Force of Will
1 Spell Pierce
2 Dig Through Time
4 Ponder
4 Brainstorm
4 Wasteland
4 Misty Rainforest
3 Verdant Catacombs
2 Polluted Delta
4 Underground Sea
1 Bayou
1 Tropical Island

Sideboard
1 Umezawa’s Jitte
2 Scavenging Ooze
1 Null Rod
2 Nature’s Claim
2 Dispel
2 Blue Elemental Blast
1 Marsh Casualties
2 Submerge
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Dread of Night

For those wondering, this is in November.

I am considering attending this if anyone from the NC area want to join in.  Getting some of my Pete Venters and John Avon stuff signed is worth sending cards with someone attending, adding 3 sanctioned vintage events to that makes me want to go.

From what I have seen so far it looks like the biggest difference between NC and TX is the stores we play at.  Here in NC Atomic Empire is an awesome store, they don't take as much as yours do from the entry fees and the venue is fantastic in terms of space, accessibility (right off major highways) and good location in terms of food, with a bar in store.

If I were you I would see about having a tournament somewhere like a public park instead of the store.  I'm not sure if you would need to get a permit or something, but if you are doing a 12 man tournament then a few hours in the park sounds pretty nice.  It would mean people can bring their own drinks/coolers (and you might be able to make an extra buck or two off selling some drinks) and you could even grill out.  Plus some parks have nice spots for the wife and kids to play.

The vintage community (at least those that stay in the community) are fairly laid back people, often the smaller tournaments are just as much about hanging out as they are about playing the game.  I know I would be up for a weekend tournament outside as long as the weather is decent.  And who knows, if the stores find out that you have built a community for this without them, they might make some concessions to bring back your business.

Scans of prizes have been put up on the facebook page

Here they are:

Wouldn't crawlspace be better against mentor?  It never presents an issue with playing your own creatures.

Portcullis does present a problem for oath though, until they can oath and in response kill a creature or the portcullis.

Any idea when pre reg will be available?  I booked my room and got the vacation time set!  I look forward to a weekend slinging cardboard crack with friends on my birthday!  Looking forward to seeing you all there.

Unfortunately I remember this period much more through type 1.5 and 2, since I had recently moved and not found any vintage scene near me.  The biggest part that I do remember were the various survival decks live venguer mask and TnT being incredibly fun to play.

From the type 1.5 perspective Dr Teeth was insane.  You could play a hard control roll laying out artifact mana like thran dynamo to power various counterspells and draw cards until you land upheaval, replay your board and Dr Teeth and counter your opponent's next turn 1 drop then swing for lethal.

Also, for about a 2 year stretch I don't think I saw a single Psychatog not altered.  They all had top hats, canes, monicles, cigars, glasses of wine or something ridiculous like turning his head into a balloon carried by a small child sharpie'd on them.  If it wasn't for the fact that it was an uncommon I would marvel at seeing an un-altered one today.

8th edition marked the last time I played standard (with the exception of affinity for a short while because it was only $200 to build at its peak), as it was the last time force spike was legal in that format, but the years from urza/masques through oddesy/onslought were pretty fun (except when legions was printed, I almost quit the game entirely).  While there were a lot of deck ideas that coalesced solely in vintage for vintage, I remember many people attempting (and some succeeding) to port various standard and extended tech, if not whole strategies.

I was incredibly happy that you did the first 10 years of vintage, because much of that history has been trapped in dusty old magazines and ancient usenet boards which I can only imagine look like some ancient dungeon out of the original Castlevania.  To have all that information in one place is definitely worthwhile.

This series of the next 10 years is great for an entirely different reason; there are an order of magnitude more people that remember these times and get to look back and clear up the lens of their memory as they reminisce on the tech and metagames they poured hours into testing and studying with friends, the tournaments they were a part of and the lengthy discussions they had that contributed to shaping our format.  It also helps to chronicle the non-player forces on our format like the DCI, Wizards R&D and the tournament organizers, which are all just as important as the growth made inside the metagame and many of us won't know or won't remember with any clarity what these forces were doing at the time.

I can't remember the last time I had to look up more than 1 card from a deck list.  Way to go Tom Dixon for making me work   Now sideboarding aether snap in case I ever run into that deck...

Circle of Flame is on color and harder to remove.  But as mentioned this only solves one specific problem and no others.

Atomic Eternal Classic
September 18th - 20th

Atomic Empire
3400 Westgate Dr. Durham, NC 27707

Here is a link for directions to the store.  As you can see it is right off 15/501, very close to both 40 and 85.

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Events during Eternal Weekend will be streamed online at Twitch.tv/AtomicEmpire, players in our events will be asked to sign a waiver before being allowed to play in streamed feature matches.

Once again we will have plenty of beer on tap as well as a massive in store stock of Magic cards!

Patrick Chapin seems like a really good choice, he has shown skill in and love for the format for years and has a great personality.

Ari Lax may have a somewhat abrasive personality on social media, but in person he came off as another strong player falling in love with the best format.

And if we are going to see someone come out of retirement to play I want to see Tommy Kowolith.  I think Soly said he shares a mtgo account with him from time to time.

But ultimately there are a lot of choices that would be excellent to watch, which is a pretty awesome thing!

I was going to suggest this as well, since it was a pretty good deck, but I am unsure how good panoptic mirror is in the increased artifact hate meta we have now.

Sex.dec used to cast time walk over and over using regrowth effects, it might be even stronger now considering noxious revival is far better that what was available back then.

A Uwg list with good blue spells, regrowth effects and monastery mentors alongside utility creatures like scm and pridemage seems like it might work in the current meta.

Only 16 people were able to tear themselves away from Super Bowl parties to battle it out on sunday, but a great time was had by all.

Vintage Top 8 Decklists
1st Place (7th Swiss) -  4-Color Control
David Courson

1 Spell Snare
1 Spell Pierce
1 Flusterstorm
3 Mental Missteps
1 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Thoughtseize
1 Null Rod
1 Time Walk
1 Brainstorm
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
3 Abrupt Decay
1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
4 Force of Will
4 Deathrite Shaman
4 Dark Confidant
3 Snapcaster Mage
1 True-Name Nemesis
1 Trygon Predator
1 Dack Fayden
2 Lightning Bolt
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Emerald
3 Underground Sea
2 Tropical Island
2 Volcanic Island
3 Scalding Tarn
1 Misty Rainforest
3 Polluted Delta
3 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine

Sideboard
1 Toxic Deluge
1 Golgari Charm
1 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Dismember
1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1 True-Name Nemesis
2 Energy Flux
1 Steel Sabotage
2 Nature's Claim
2 Yixlid Jailer
2 Red Elemental Blast

2nd Place (1st Swiss) - Uwr Control
Sean Obrien

1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Brainstorm
1 Ponder
1 Treasure Cruise
1 Hurkyl's Recall
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Snapcaster Mage
1 Dig Through Time
1 Fire // Ice
1 Spell Snare
1 Spell Pierce
1 Mana Leak
1 Flusterstorm
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
2 Preordain
3 Monestary Mentor
3 Trinket Mage
3 Swords to Plowshares
1 Grafdigger's Cage
4 Force of Will
3 Mental Misstep
4 Scalding Tarn
2 Flooded Strand
3 Tundra
2 Volcanic Island
2 Island
1 Tolarian Academy
2 Cavern of Souls

Sideboard
2 Ingot Chewer
2 Wear // Tear
1 Mountain
3 Containment Priest
1 Tormod's Crypt
2 Pyroblast
1 Pithing Needle
2 Meddling Mage
1 Izzet Staticcaster

3rd Place (3rd Swiss)- Rug Delver
Michael Braverman

4 Delver of Secrets
2 Trygon Predator
4 Young Pyromancer
3 Lightning Bolt
4 Force of Will
2 Pyroblast
2 Dig Through Time
1 Ancient Grudge
4 Preordain
4 Gush
1 Fire // Ice
1 Ponder
1 Treasure Cruise
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Ruby
2 Flusterstorm
1 Brainstorm
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Misdirection
3 Volcanic Island
2 Tropical Island
1 Island
4 Scalding Tarn
1 Strip mine
1 Polluted Delta
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Flooded Strand

Sideboard
4 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Ancient Grudge
1 Pyroblast
1 Shattering Spree
1 Nature's Claim
1 Mountain
1 Null Rod
1 Trygon Predator
1 Spell Pierce
2 Ingot Chewer

4th Place (4th Overall) MUD
Bert Purvis

4 Kuldotha Forgemaster
4 Lodestone Golem
3 Phyrexian Revoker
2 Phyrexian Metamorph
1 Duplicant
1 Steel Hellkite
1 Triskelion
1 Sundering Titan
4 Tangle Wire
4 Thorn of Amesthyst
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Sphere of Resistance
1 1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sol Ring
1 Trinisphere
1 Staff of Nin
4 Mishra's Workshop
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Wasteland
4 Cavern of Souls
1 Strip Mine
1 Tolarian Academy

Sideboard
4 Tormod's Crypt
4 Grafdigger's Cage
2 Crucible of Worlds
2 Ratchet Bomb
2 Karakas
1 Precursor Golem

5th Place (2nd Swiss)-Doomsday
Adam Costabile

4 Scalding Tarn
3 Polluted Delta
1 Volcanic Island
1 Tropical Island
1 Island
4 Underground Sea
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Lotus Petal
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Fastbond
1 Sensei's Diving Top
4 Doomsday
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Dark Ritual
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Thoughtseize
1 Duress
3 Preordain
1 Brainstorm
1 Ponder
2 Dig Through Time
4 Gush
1 Gitaxian Probe
1 Imperial Seal
1 Misdirection
4 Force of Will
3 Mental Misstep
2 Flusterstorm
1 Laboratory Maniac
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Hurkyls Recall

Sideboard
2 Yixlid Jailer
4 Leyline of Sanctity
1 Ancient Grudge
1 Mountain
4 Ingot Chewer
1 Hurkyls Recall
2 Trygon Predator

6th Place (5th in Swiss)-Gifts Control
Richard Johnson

4 Force of Will
3 Mana Drain
3 Mental Misstep
1 Misdirection
1 Flusterstorm
1 Hurkyl's Recall
1 Fire // Ice
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Time Vault
1 Volcanic Key
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Blightlussus
1 Blightsteel Colussus
1 Recoup
3 Gifts Ungiven
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1 Snapcaster Mage
1 Tinker
1 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Time Walk
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Ponder
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Brainstorm
1 Black Lotus
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sol Ring
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mana Vault
1 Tolarian Academy
2 Island
1 Snow-Covered Island
1 Polluted Delta
4 Scalding Tarn
3 Underground Sea
3 Volcanic Island

Sideboard
1 Mountain
4 Ingot Chewer
4 Grafdigger's Cage
2 Red Elemental Blast
2 Thoughtseize
1 Pyroclasm
1 Toxic Deluge

7th Place (6th Swiss)-U/W Control (Monkman)
Josh Staples

3 Monastery Mentor
3 Trinket Mage
2 Auriok Salvagers
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
2 Sensei's Diving Top
1 Black Lotus
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Sol Ring
4 Force of Will
4 Mental Misstep
3 Mana Drain
2 Mana Leak
2 Swords to Plowshares
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Brainstorm
1 Hurkyl's Recall
1 Ponder
1 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Time Walk
4 Flooded Strand
3 Island
3 Tundra
2 Cavern of Souls
2 Polluted Delta
1 Library of Alexandra
1 Plains
1 Tolarian Academy

Sideboard
3 Grafdigger's Cage
2 Containment Priest
2 Disenchant
2 Energy Flux
2 Kataki, War Wage
2 Swords to Plowshares
1 Devout Witness
1 Pithing Needle

8th Place (8th Swiss)-Stax
Ryan Dail

1 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
4 Chalice of the Void
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Emerald
2 Duplicant
2 Thorn of Amethyst
3 Crucible of Worlds
4 Smokestack
4 Sphere of Resistance
4 Tangle wire
4 Lodestone Golem
3 Karn, Silver Golem
4 Serum Powder
1 Tolarian Academy
3 Ancient Tomb
4 Mishra's Workshop
1 Tabernacle at Pendrall Vale
1 Strip Mine
4 Wasteland
4 Mishra's Factory

Sideboard
4 Leyline of Sanctity
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Dismember
2 Helm of Obedience
1 Grafdigger's Cage

The link needs work in the op.  Here it is for easy access: http://www.eternalcentral.com/a-vintage-experience-at-prague-eternal-top-8-report/

I really don't think you do.  As long as you are only playing 1-2 of her she isn't likely to be seen before you have either lost some creatures to combat/discard/counters/kill spells or have used creatures with their own sac outlet like pridemage or hexmage.

Remember she is a moat against a large portion of played creatures even if she does enter play before her ability is relevant.

The only engine for abuse that I can see is lilliana of the veil, anything else I can think of is too cute to be competitive.

If it had haste instead of first strike I don't think it would ever be played in eternal formats.  As is it comes out on top against golem and delver, as well as creating redundancy for already played value creatures.  3 mana for 5 damage and blowing up an artifact/enchantment every turn with pridemage is actually pretty good.  The only real issue are the colors, but it seems like it is already in the normal Humans colors.

I can see this being played by Humans and UWr bomberman.

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I don't get it.  In game 1 you both had lucky hands, him with 2 BoBs and you drawing the shop off the top to be able to put up a quicker than 10 turn clock.  In game 2 you had 3 of a sick 4 of in your hand and he had 2 of a sick 4 of in his...  These games seem far more fair than the average dredge or workshop match.

Glad to see you guys getting good turn outs.  Were the oath decks Fenton style with show and tells or something else?

The only magic related joke I laughed at in the episode was about the free range chickens all being blue players that want to slow the game down and not let anybody have fun.  The rest of the time magic was being played it was fairly boring, which is probably the joke.

I will admit at being amused by the ESPN Illegal skit.

There are burn spells outside the red ones though.  It could be fine to just say;

T; add R to you mana pool. Storm.

Back when I was playing Burning Oath (pitch version) I won most of my matches against Bug fish through the oath plan.  A single misdirection gets you the turn to oath, or a time walk.  The few times oath didn't work their hand was light enough that I was able to storm them out with ease, I can easily see the same being said for tezz vaulting.

I know Bug is better positioned to fight oath compared to other fish decks, but it is still not an easy fight, and a surge in oath definitely makes Bug worse in the meta.  Not to mention it is also a dog to a resolved show and tell, so unless every fish deck main decks a karakas I don't see the match up being in their favor any time soon.

This isn't any different from how a blue player evaluates prospective cards:
1. If it costs 4+ mana it must have a huge impact if not outright win the game.
2. It must not be inferior to any playable analogs.
3. It must fit in with a prospective deck's game plan.

This card 1) costs more than 4+ mana, but likely has a large impact on the game at the cost of tying up turns doing little else besides drawing cards.
2) The investment required makes it difficult to to pinpoint if it is on par with cards like staff of nin or coersive portal, or even jar.  There are already things that fill the draw options for shops, some of which don't get shut down by null rod.
3) As has been stated, this card becomes increasingly difficult to cast the later it gets drawn.  Unfortunately the best time to utilize it is later in the game.  In a typical shop deck it fights itself, something the analogs don't do.

Harabaz Druid also taps for any color, and it can attack.  Same with gemhide/manaweft sliver.  You lose a 3 toughness hexproof body though.

The Atog Lord (3-1)
Vintage Daily #7466707 on 09/16/2014

2 Bloodstained Mire
2 Island
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Mountain
1 Polluted Delta
3 Scalding Tarn
1 Strip Mine
1 Swamp
1 Tolarian Academy
2 Underground Sea
2 Volcanic Island
1 Deathrite Shaman
2 Goblin Welder
1 Myr Battlesphere
2 Notion Thief
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Black Lotus
1 Brainstorm
4 Dack Fayden
1 Demonic Tutor
2 Fire // Ice
4 Force of Will
4 Mental Misstep
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mystical Tutor
4 Night's Whisper
1 Ponder
1 Sol Ring
1 Time Vault
1 Time Walk
1 Tinker
1 Tsabo's Web
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Voltaic Key
1 Yawgmoth's Will


1 Tsabo's Web
1 Duress
1 Flusterstorm
3 Grafdigger's Cage
4 Ingot Chewer
2 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Pyroclasm
2 Shattering Spree

Is the online meta getting so ingrown that you need tsabo's web to combat man lands/wastes/bazaars/library?  Also, why 4 dacks and 0 jace?

I've run back to basics in a Ub shell, it put me into top 8 3 tournaments in a row.  I always used it to force a window for me to resolve something big.  IE they tap out on turn 3-4 for something and you slam this down, now you have a good chance of resolving anything you want for at least 1-2 turns.  It has never locked me out of a game.

mine: http://www.tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=10541&iddeck=76900
the list I based it off: http://www.tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=10290&iddeck=74981

This is the round that people can change deck lists, right?  I wonder if anyone will stick with merfolk in this set.

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