Restricting TfK is a joke. Unrestricting crop rotation is a joke.

I stopped playing Vintage long ago because of all these lame ass changes (Ponder??? Really?), but never sold my cards (now is the time?). Legacy has far more deck options, and the games are interactive. Getting rid of TfK pretty much eliminates slaver. One less option to tinker with.

Mana drain is not a problem. The problem is Time Vault.

They should just restrict all blue draw cards.

I think I know who asked for this restriction, and he shall remain nameless. If you know who you are, stop meddling in Legacy! It is fine as it is!!

I have a question. I noticed Brian DeMars' deck had an Enlightened Tutor in the sideboard. GP LEgacy winner Nassif also had one in the sideboard. When is the correct time to board this in, and in what situation?

Mana drain is not the problem (as another thread was devoted to), Time vault is the problem. As I remember correctly, and many others of you as well, Menendian advocated the re-re-errata of Time Vault to its original oracle wording.

In any case, would null rod Tyrant Oath be the deck to top Tezzeret decks? Would a second turn tyrant, or first turn null rod ruin Tezz's day? Though Chain of vapor would wreck the null rod (unless there are multiples)... The CoV would need to be countered or misdirected to another of your permanents... What about pithing needle?

Good luck on the recovery, Wookie.

why would you want to re-errata Time Vault, but then restrict Mana drain? Mana drain is not that good, and it is a component for control decks. Do you really want control to disappear? First Wizards takes away Brainstorm and ponder and merchant scroll, which hurts FoW (and some element of control), and now this? So much for being the 'ambassador' for Vintage. In my opinion, proactive decks have an edge on reactive decks, and Mana drain, for the most part is reactive.

It seems to me the author of this article prefers combo in Vintage. I can tell you that winning on turn 0/1 is a negative aspect of vintage; it turns off alot of players to this format. Taking control away would further alienate new players.

Do you really think Vintage can grow?

I am skeptical. Here are a few reasons:
1. Card availability: There are a fixed number of cards available, and are always hard to acquire. If a new player can obtain those cards, the net gain of players is still 0.
2. Few Vintage events anywhere in the country.
3. Vintage networks have been dwindling for some time now, fewer people to engage in games and discussions.

I was getting tired of playing vintage and was deciding on selling all my old cards. I am tired of playing a spell and waiting for 'Brainstorm, force of will pitching ponder.' Its just so boring and repetitive knowing that the guy you're playing against is always going to counter my spell. How is this interactive and skill intensive? Is it really skill intensive hiding my yawg will from a duress, or putting Tyrant back into the deck and then fetchlanding? For you blue mages complaining, you still have Recall, Timewalk, drains, and all other goodies. resstricting brainstorm and ponder is great, because it makes the other colors more playable. Look at all the Top8 decks on morphling.de; they're all blue, they all have FoW, brainstorm, ponder, merchant scroll, save the occasional MUD or ichorid decks. What I mean is, in order to compete in Vintage, you had to play blue, and it was really a crimp in innovation. Are you guys really happy playing the same pile year in and year out? Isn't Magic about preparing for the unexpected and having your deck able to handle unknown threats? vintage has always been about playing 3-4 top decks, knowing which decks you'll see, and metagaming for it, and it was boring as hell. Now everything is wide open, and I think the golden age of Vintage is just starting.

On a side note:
Seeing all these Top 4 painter's servants decks makes me cringe. REBs and Pyro's maindeck to blow everything away? thats awful. WotC should have done something to this deck.