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1  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Financial Catastrophe on: September 27, 2008, 07:58:31 pm
I know you want to blame "greed," but it's just a silly cop-out that our politicians are clinging to. The profit motive is what drives businesses and individuals to make the best choice given their options. You mean to tell me they were so interested in their well-being that they bankrupted themselves? Nowhere does the list abdicate lenders' responsibility in this; instead, it's arguing that the government providing false market incentives is the primary cause. Everyone who buys into it will be damaged and share the responsibility of what happened. We as taxpayers are who will ultimately foot the bill. Sucks.
2  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Financial Catastrophe on: September 27, 2008, 01:38:41 pm
BB&T (NYSE: BBT), has issued the following statement on the banking crisis and the proposed bailout:

Key Points on "Rescue" Plan From A Healthy Bank's Perspective

1. Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are the primary cause of the mortgage crisis. These government supported enterprises distorted normal market risk mechanisms. While individual private financial institutions have made serious mistakes, the problems in the financial system have been caused by government policies including, affordable housing (now sub-prime), combined with the market disruptions caused by the Federal Reserve holding interest rates too low and then raising interest rates too high.

2. There is no panic on Main Street and in sound financial institutions. The problems are in high-risk financial institutions and on Wall Street.

3. While all financial intermediaries are being impacted by liquidity issues, this is primarily a bailout of poorly run financial institutions. It is extremely important that the bailout not damage well run companies.

4. Corrections are not all bad. The market correction process eliminates irrational competitors. There were a number of poorly managed institutions and poorly made financial decisions during the real estate boom. It is important that any rules post "rescue" punish the poorly run institutions and not punish the well run companies.

5. A significant and immediate tax credit for purchasing homes would be a far less expensive and more effective cure for the mortgage market and financial system than the proposed "rescue" plan.

6. This is a housing value crisis. It does not make economic sense to purchase credit card loans, automobile loans, etc. The government should directly purchase housing assets, not real estate bonds. This would include lots and houses under construction.

7. The guaranty of money funds by the U.S. Treasury creates enormous risk for the banking industry. Banks have been paying into the FDIC insurance fund since 1933. The fund has a limit of $100,000 per client. An arbitrary, "out of the blue" guarantee of money funds creates risk for the taxpayers and significantly distorts financial markets.

8. Protecting the banking system, which is fundamentally controlled by the Federal Reserve, is an established government function. It is completely unclear why the government needs to or should bailout insurance companies, investment banks, hedge funds and foreign companies.

9. It is extremely unclear how the government will price the problem real estate assets. Priced too low, the real estate markets will be worse off than if the bail out did not exist. Priced too high, the taxpayers will take huge losses. Without a market price, how can you rationally determine value?

10. The proposed bankruptcy "cram down" will severely negatively impact mortgage markets and will damage well run institutions. This will provide an incentive for homeowners who are able to pay their mortgages, but have a loss in their house, to take bankruptcy and force losses on banks. (Banks would not have received the gains had the houses appreciated.) This will substantially increase the risk in mortgage lending and make mortgage pricing much higher in the future.

11. Fair Value accounting should be changed immediately. It does not work when there are no market prices. If we had Fair Value accounting, as interpreted today, in the early 1990's the United States financial system would have crashed. Accounting should not drive economic activity, it should reflect it.

12. The proposed new merger accounting rules should be deferred for at least five years. The new merger accounting rules are creating uncertainty for high quality companies who might potentially purchase weaker companies.

13. The primary beneficiaries of the proposed rescue are Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley. The Treasury has a number of smart individuals, including Hank Paulson. However, Treasury is totally dominated by Wall Street investment bankers. They do not have knowledge of the commercial banking industry. Therefore, they can not be relied on to objectively assess all the implications of government policy on all financial intermediaries. The decision to protect the money funds is a clear example of a material lack of insight into the risk to the total financial system.

14. Arbitrary limits on executive compensation will be self defeating. With these limits, only the failing financial institutions will participate in the "rescue," effectively making this plan a massive subsidy for incompetence. Also, how will companies attract the leadership talent to manage their business effectively with irrational compensation limits?
3  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Financial Catastrophe on: September 26, 2008, 12:03:26 am
Here's a list of economists (a few hundred or so, Nobel Prize winners included) that are against the bailout, with the primary reason being that
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"Investors who took risks to earn profits must also bear the losses.  Not every business failure carries systemic risk. The government can ensure a well-functioning financial industry, able to make new loans to creditworthy borrowers, without bailing out particular investors and institutions whose choices proved unwise."

http://faculty.chicagogsb.edu/john.cochrane/research/Papers/mortgage_protest.htm
4  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Financial Catastrophe on: September 24, 2008, 01:19:06 pm
A major cause of the crisis are incentives, as Smmenen is arguing, but not because there isn't enough altruism going around. Something that hasn't been mentioned (though I haven't read every word of every post) are the government incentives that encouraged these sub-prime loans in the first place. For an alternate point of view, read into this: http://www.forbes.com/2008/07/18/fannie-freddie-regulation-oped-cx_yb_0718brook.html
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