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1  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: [Article] Getting Vintage Back on Track: The Case Against Ichorid by Cody Vi on: June 30, 2008, 12:00:51 pm
Anyone who thinks that this deck needs to be restricted or removed from the format needs to lighten up.

This deck has so much hate against it right now its almost impossible to win a tournament. Someone posted the numbers above but something like 1 1st place win in 30+ tournaments with like 9% of it in the field for top 8 wins.

Stax is more consistent then this and thats fine?

If you really really hate ichorid then go play it at a tournament and playtest with it, you will see the flaws in it to the point you can see why the best players neither play nor worry about the matchup.

Manaless ichorid can't win turn 1 and winning turn 2 is hard without a little luck assuming no disruption.

Mana ichorid can win turn one but its less then a 5% chance which is less then grim long or most of the tendril decks out there and thats assuming a lot of luck with dredging.

And for those siding in leyline of the void as an answer need to really stop. Think about it, if most ichorid decks run enchantment removal then play with a non-enchantment disruption. Tormods Crypt is better for such things and unless countered is garenteed to remove a discard pile and is useful in slaver and tendril matches(not saying its the best choice tho).

There are so many cards to counter this deck its not even funny, jailer, sac creatures, extirpate, tormods crypt, pithing needle, wasteland/stripmine, leyline, planar void, and a few others.

Its easy to counter if you know the deck from the inside.

This deck is so inconsistant that I am dropping it for grim long which even through disruption can win where this has a hard time.

And here is something to think about, the best players don't worry nor do they play ichorid, why should they? Unless it turn 1's them going first its not a good enough deck to worry about.

I think its more the casual vintage players who are crying about it becuase they don't know how to properly handle it.
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