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1  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: [Premium Article] So Many Insane Plays - Crazy Stax! on: October 21, 2008, 09:24:46 am
Maybe you missed the fact that decks I've written about in the last month and a half have not only made top 8s, but they've won tournaments.  My mono blue Tez list won the last ICBM open, and my Ad Nauseam list made top 8 yesterday.   

Which decks are you talking about? Nauseam? Tezzeret? You are talking about cards that are broken and cards that anyone can exploit. It's like I autoproclame my person the creator of tolarian deck or survival-nightmare or affinity.

2  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: [FreeArticle] Post-6/20 Drain Tendrils: Staying Ahead of the Curve by Cody Vinci on: August 15, 2008, 05:38:42 am
Hi again,

Hi gabbalost. I didn't play any matches because I just wanted to give players a feel for how the deck plays game 1. I could have written a lot more, but this is what I wanted to do with this article. Besides, recording matches with sideboarding on MWS would have been way too much work and really wouldn't mean all that much since MWS games are usually not like tournament matches at all.

1) The deck has no red in it.
2) No I didn't forget about it. I like how this Ichorid board is working out although there are many other options, including Extirpates. I'm guessing Team Pataners has had success with Extirpates against Ichorid?
3) 4 Duress effects are the minimum I want to bring in against Long and Control. I'd add more if it weren't for Ichorid slots. I don't play maindeck Duress effects because I like to play game 1 by fetching out Islands and casting as many draw spells as possible. Just personal preference and how I play the deck.
4) First, ETW is not a real threat right now in the US. Not that many people are playing it. The deck should still be able to race an early ETW unless its on turn 1 for some insane number.

Thanks for your answer. Now I understand more the goal of your article. But I have a few things to contribute:


1) Sorry, I assumed that you were playing with red but that you never got the empty. We here like a lot the red option. With the new metagame there're a few players playing WU fish and to battle meddling mage with a single chain of vapor is scaring. Well, for me less dangerous 'cause I play echoing truth over hurkyl's recall. Red gives you access to ***blast, rack and ruin and pyroclasm and of course, EtW. For those who says that rack and ruin will cost too much against stax 'cause the sphere and thorns, forget that it has the same cost as rebuild, and forget that is a powerhouse against slavers and painters.

2) I've talked a lot with guys from Team Pataners, particularly PiZZero, about the plan to play against Ichorid and we assumed that the best is a minimum of 2/3 extirpate plus a few copies of jailer. On the last tournament we played, Pizzero borrowed me 3 jailers and they let me win two rounds against Ichorid. In the other hand PiZZero told me at the end of this tournament that jailers sucks :,D. Well, I lost in semifinals and Pizzero won the tournament. If you're interested on this tournament you can search the Top8 deck list on www.team-pataners.com. It is the July LCV tournament at Mataró.

3) May be I consider too much because I played 2 duress maindeck. I like to play a minimum  of two at the sideboard. I consider thoughtseize a very important element because in determinated matches, decks like bomberman, you need the option of taking a creature. I remember the quarterfinal at the July LCV. My oponent searched a lotus via trinket and I assumed that he was keeping an auriok in his hand. I tutored for thoughtseize and then pulled out an auriok of his hand.
Other aspect of duress/thoughtseize. I try to not play it on the few turns, I always try to keep it until I'll go on combo. You have to play duress as information dealer. It's evidently that if your oponent scrolls for an ancestral and gives you turn staying tapped you will play duress to make him  discar the ancestral.

4) Here at LCV is the same case as the States. Maybe my personal experience turns me onto a cautious player and I fear too the Empty. But... I lost too much matches against this anoying sorcery! PiZZero jokes with my main deck echoing truth calling me "flojo" (lazy person). In any case I don't like hurky's recall maindeck. May be you see a lot of stax. Honestly I think that stax is like a bye. Only stax' god hands can beat drain tendrils (much more if you're playing EtW). In any case here people are playing aggro red/brown, those poor decks with juggy, swords and magus of the moon. Only the magus is a real threat against drain tendrils (well against my version, not yours).



I wish my words could be useful for all of you. Regards,

F.co Ávalos aka Gabbalost
3  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: [FreeArticle] Post-6/20 Drain Tendrils: Staying Ahead of the Curve by Cody Vinci on: August 14, 2008, 07:35:48 pm
How do you feel against, say, UW Fish/Bomberman or Oath?  Do you feel like you're still fast enough against those decks (especially with some number of Massacres sideboard to beat on the aggro decks)?  Basically I have a metagame that is likely to be devoid of Ichorid so I have a number of slots to play with, and I think DT might be a strong choice for the field.

UW Fish: The only thing that I fear from this deck is an outrage of creatures on the early turns or developing a mana base hard on artifacts and be castigated with a null rod.  Null rod may be is the true key of this match.

Bomberman is too easy in my opinion. Take care of the aurioks with counters and use the information that gives you your oponent with trinkets. My experience says that if an oponent search for lotus is because he is keeping an auriok in his hand. If he search for the spellbomb there is two options: he has a defensive view of the match waiting tinker+colossus or he don't include any sensei's divining top, on those two cases probably he don't have a good hand, that is no FoW or drain.
I think the best option for a bomberman player, the card that damages a lot the drain tendrils, is aven mindcensor. It can't be countered and disable your fetchlands, tutors, intuition and gifts.

Ichorid: The jailer is god. It's replayable in the early turns if you get it chained. Leyline not. I prefer to sideboard any ratio of jailers and extirpates against 4 leylines. You can use extirpate to battle against anothers archetips and I could play also tormod's crypt for the same reason as extirpate.

regards.

gabbalost
4  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: [FreeArticle] Post-6/20 Drain Tendrils: Staying Ahead of the Curve by Cody Vinci on: August 14, 2008, 07:11:18 pm
Hello from a spanish vintage player.

Thanks for your article Cody. There is only one problem with your playtest games. You didn't play any second game and we don't see your sideboard in action.

You show us this sideboard:

4x Leyline of the Void
2x Pithing Needle
1x Yixlid Jailer
1x Tormod’s Crypt
1x Tinker
1x Darksteel Colossus
2x Duress
2x Thoughtseize
1x Darkblast

I have a few questions about it:

1. Why do you chose darkblast over lava dart?
2. Did you forget extirpate?
3.  It's not too much dedicating 4 slots for discard spells? And about that, why not play any maindeck duress and/or thoughtseize?
4. Which is your response to an early Empty the warrens? I do not see any echoing truth or engineered explosives.

regards,

Gabbalost
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