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Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: [Premium Article] So Many Insane Plays — Known Unknowns: Tactical Ambiguities in
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on: June 27, 2007, 02:28:02 am
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Hi, great article, just have a question about it. I don't think this is possible, this is game 1: After gush & null rod. GAT is mana tide:
Turn 5:
Fish's upkeep: use Grunt on my Echoing Truth and Jotun Grunt.
Drawing Mox Jet. Dead draw.
Attack with Grunt. GAT goes to 12 life.
Wasteland the Tropical Island.
Pass.
GAT draws Brainstorm.
GAT plays Trop #2 and casts another Dryad. Attack with Dryad, sending Fish to 11.
Your one mana short.
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Vintage Community Discussion / Non-Vintage / [Announcement] legacy SE, 30-12 (Utrecht, Netherlands)
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on: December 07, 2006, 12:13:27 pm
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Date: 30th of December Venue: National Mindgame Center, Kennedylaan 9, Utrecht Tournament: PTQ for Geneva (2 slots) with a Legacy Side Event. Times: The PTQ starts at 11 o'clock (doors open at 10) and the Legacy SE starts after round 2 of the PTQ. Last time that was around 2 o'clock (1400h). Prizesupport Legacy SE: Alliances Boosters English, 4th Edition Boosters English and more. Some nice Legacy cards will also be sponsored by Troll & Toad Europe and Rudy Meijer. Pre Registration: eelco1972@hotmail.comCosts: 10 Euro. 6 Euro if you were also playing in the PTQ, but had to drop to play the SE. For questions please email eelco... Daniel
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Archives / Tournament Announcement Forum / [Announcement] Vintage SE for loa 23-12 (Utrecht, Netherlands)
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on: December 07, 2006, 12:08:31 pm
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Date: 23rd of December Venue: National Mindgame Center, Kennedylaan 9, Utrecht Tournament: PTQ for Geneva (2 slots) with a Vintage Side Event. Times: The PTQ starts at 11 o'clock (doors open at 10) and the Vintage SE starts after round 2 of the PTQ. Last time that was around 2 o'clock (1400h). Prizesupport Vintage SE: 1 Library of Alexandria, 1 Mana Crypt, 1 Underground Sea Revised, Alliances Boosters English, 4th Edition Boosters English and more. Pre Registration: eelco1972@hotmail.comCosts: 10 Euro. 6 Euro if you were also playing in the PTQ, but had to drop to play the SE. For question's, please email eelco.. Daniel
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Archives / Tournament Announcement Forum / [Announcement]Breda T1 tournament for a Time Walk!
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on: April 14, 2006, 12:21:33 pm
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[I was asked via PM to post this on behalf of Tom de Maaijer, Bart Marijnissen and Steven Geurts] After the first succesfull tournament in Breda, which showed an attendence of 80 Persons! http://www.themanadrain.com/index.php?topic=27840.0 here are the results, showing a great metagame, lots of good players, so next time everybody show up again! Type I Time Walk! tournament June 25th, Breda Netherlands June 25th, we will organise a type I tournament in Breda, the Netherlands. Tournament location will be: Buurtcentrum de Belcrum Pastoor Pottersplein 12 4815 BC Breda Entree fee will be 10 euro. Doors open at 10:00 Tournament start at 11:00 Most likely there will be 5, 6 or 7 rounds followed by top 8. For preregistration sent email to: s.geurts@gmail.com including your name and dci-number if you have one. Please do, so we have an idea on how many people will be there. makes it a lot easier for us. REL 1, the tournament will be DCI sanctioned, so no proxies allowed! First Price Unl. Time walk Second Price Mana Drain English Third Price Mana Crypt 4-8 Price Depending on the attendence, problably some duals... There’s room for 80 people, so please prereg. Deck lists are necessary, so we can give a nice prize for best non-powered deck also. Additional information: There is a bar, where foods and drinks are available at low costs. Registration = participating See you in Breda! EDIT: Grammar errors 
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Archives / Tournament Announcement Forum / Re: [Announcement]Mol T1 tournament for a Lotus or Ancestral!
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on: April 09, 2006, 05:55:06 pm
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65 people showed up top 2 split lotus, arthur tindemans and yours truly playing almost same decklist as our top 2 breda, march 12. Top 8 contained FCG gifts w drains/ritual/tendrils (frank van Rijn) my deck Mud (arthur) Mono Black! (bas bronsgeest) Wouther dhondt (gifts) carl devos (cs with burning wish) UW fish After quarters, there were 4 dutchies in top4  EDIT: decks
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Archives / Tournament Announcement Forum / [Tourney] 23 April Leiden Double It. DRAIN
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on: April 06, 2006, 07:05:58 am
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[I was asked via PM to post this on behalf of Vincent Captein] Type I Double it. Drain tournament April 23th, Leiden Netherlands April 23th, I will organise a type I tournament in Leiden, the netherlands. Tournament location is: Buurthuis Op Eigen Wieken Valkenpad 3/5 2317 AN Leiden Entree fee will be 10 euro. Doors open at 9:30 Tournament start at 11:00 Swiss rounds will be over at 17:00 Most likely there will be 5 or 6 rounds followed by top 8. For preregistration sent email to: captainvinny@hotmail.com including your name and dci-number if you have. Please do, so we have an idea on how many people will be there. makes it a lot easier for us. REL 1, judge Leonard Hugenholz (lvl 1), the tournament will be DCI sanctioned. Vincent himself will be selling cards! There’s room for 85 people, so please prereg. Deck lists are necessary, so we can give a nice prize for best non-powered deck also. Additional information: There’s a bar, were it’s possible to buy food and drinks at reasonable prices. Registration = participating See you in Leiden!
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Eternal Formats / Global Vintage Tournament Reports and Results / Re: leiden 22 januari 2006, Top 8 decklists plus metabreakdown
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on: January 24, 2006, 04:36:16 am
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Yes tormod's crypt IS underplayed, you can see three different people saw that. We all played decks that have a hard time handling the crypt, but the advantage of top 8, is that you can lose a random match to the crypt, and still top 8.
Btb, steffen was at the easy site of the top 8, with a fish, and a control slaver on his way to the finals.... but he played well, and didn't lose, so congratz to him.
My match against barrie was really silly, game 1, I therapy him on oath, he got a hand of 3 wastelands, 2 fetch, island, + platinum angel! Who keeps that?? Then he goes, topdeck brainstorm, brainstorm into goody's, fetch, win the game from there bleh...
Game 3, I go therapy on oath, he goes topdeck oath...
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Eternal Formats / Global Vintage Tournament Reports and Results / Re: [Results]Open Dutch Vintage Championships
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on: November 01, 2005, 10:34:01 am
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The machups R1 dragon 2-0-1 3 points R2 mono green beatz 2-0 6 points R3 control slaver 9 points R4 control slaver 12 points R5 ravager (hero) 15 points R6 control slaver (markus) 1-1 16 points (game 3 I had a change of 1/2 of killing him in the fifht turn, needed to oath up razia, but it was my woodripper...) R7 stax 2-0 19 points R8 TPoath ID 20 points T8 ubas stax 2-1 Lost game 2 due to not drawing my third land for 5-6 turns on a row.... Won game 3 due to topdeck flux, but oath would have been nice to. Didn't see much speed from my deck, but he was drawing power + bazaar each game... T4 stefan with oath Stefan is a teammember, he last minute wanted to play my list, only differents are waste #4 and null rod #2, against 2 impulse. And he plays 61, a extra drain. I won because I abused his oath, and won the orchard war, G2 I won because I drew thirst into thirst into thirst into thirst, and the all resloved  T2 steffen (dr evil) Lost game 1, he started with, recall, I fow, he fow. I didnt have a mox, but my hand contained null rod land, orchard, waste, he played gifts next turn, for mana artifacts had will in hand, drew his time walk, en comboed me out next turn with flame vault.... Game 2, he mulls twice, I cast oath without orchard turn 3, with UU backup, he responds with gifts, I play shadow of doupt  Game 3 I mull into: orchard,mox,sea,duress,leak,oath He starts with, mox u, fetch. My draw gives me a FOW. I play land mox go, he brainstorms + fetched, in his turn he casts gifts, I leak he fowed, okay resolve, he fetches, tinker broken cards. My turn, draw thirst, I duress his will away, drop orcard + oath, go, he plays his scrying, taking him beneath 18  sweet. My turn, I oath up akroma. Next turn he can't win, so I'm the dutch champion! Why did I wanna play oath? That's because it had a good matchup against random decks, which I expected a lot, I only needed to improve the less good matchups. I used to play 4cc, and I was always in love with mana disruption, so I want 5 waste. I couldn't play shaman like in 4cc, and null rod works well with muddle. I only had to figure out correct numbers. Before muddle, we already had created oath with null rods. Joram de Kraker played it in Den haag a while ago and top 8 in that tournament. Then we felt like that's what was missing in oath. Null rod is just so brutal against gifts and control slaver, and TPS and stax. Most games I played it, I won the game. Null rod won me several games against control slaver. Your opponent won't be able to hardcast his artifacts and weld them back in. Transmute is really good, you can fetch, time walk, oath, demonic, null rod. All cards that can win games. It's a counter against gifts, cause you don't want to transmute it early because of the sorcery speed + uu1 It's never dead, only against shop but you can still transmute or pitch it to fow. Mana drian was always bad in oath, so it wasn't that hard to cut those.
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Eternal Formats / Global Vintage Tournament Reports and Results / Re: [Results]Open Dutch Vintage Championships
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on: November 01, 2005, 03:27:51 am
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So I won the lotus! My team put up a wonderfull prestation, placing two of our three members in top 8, stefan and me. Joram played stax, and didn't had any luck today. Our oath deck worked really well. Stefan and my record in swiss was like 6-0-2, I won the top 8, stefan lost to me in the semifinals, and then won the battle for the loa.
So our deck had like: 3 ID 1 draw due to bad luck, needed extra turn, or needed to oath up razia instead of woodripper. 17 wins 1 loss because we had to play in against eachother in the semi's....
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Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: [Premium Article] Meandeck Gifts
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on: July 04, 2005, 04:21:45 am
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Blue Elemental Blast says "destroy target red permanent or counter target red spell" while Hydroblast says "destroy target permanent if it is red or counter target spell if it's red", meaning it can target a nonred permanent or spell if you need to, just to dump it out of your hand. I think this was mostly useful when people played Black Vise, but I guess it's still something to keep in mind.
You can use a hydroblast to raise the storm count, and you can't use a BeB for that. I played this deck at the same event as Koen, and I played the frantic search, it won me a few games, my sideboard was really bad, and the luck wasnt at my side. Game 3 against 4cc, I needed to mull to 5. Then I flipped myself to death with mana crypt, after flipping 3 times wrong, with the kill in hand... then I lost to hugo, because he just had a great hand game 1, and I needed to mull to 5 game 2. Koen didn't need to mulligan as much as I did, I mulled in a 5 round tournament 7 or 8 times, while he just mulled in his first 5 round just once. This decks is really good, and very fun to play, I didn't had much time to test, so I tested it just the night before, and then it worked just fine. No problems with mulligans at all. One other point I want to make is that mana drain just sucks, I don't think it needs to be a 4-of. I really think an extra misdirrection is just better, 4 seems much, but a misdirrected ancestral won me 2 games. And it protected my gifts a lot. I really liked the rebuild, I killed with tendrils like 4 times in the tournament, and a lot more times in practise. While koen and arthur just would use the tinker for the kill. Daniel
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Eternal Formats / Global Vintage Tournament Reports and Results / Re: tournament report Eindhoven 26/6
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on: June 28, 2005, 04:16:48 am
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Q: I have Spawning Pit in play and the person I am playing has Oath of Druids. He uses Forbidden Orchard during his upkeep giving me a spirit token. Can I sacrifice the token to the Spawning Pit before he has the opportunity to activate Oath. A: Oath of Druids does not have an activated ability, it has a triggered ability. If at the beginning of your opponent's upkeep he does not control fewer creatures than you the Oath will not trigger at all. In order for the Oath to trigger he would have to use the Orchard's ability at the end of your turn. Even if he did do this you could sacrifice this spirit to put a counter on the Pit before his upkeep begins. When Oath's triggered ability goes to resolve, it will see that the trigger condition isn't still true, and nothing will happen. http://www.starcitygames.com/pages/judgefinder.php?keywords=oath+of+druidsSo its a triggered ability, not activated, so the needle can't stop oath!
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Eternal Formats / Global Vintage Tournament Reports and Results / Re: [Report] TPS Top8 at Mox ruby tourney, just to become slaughtered by elves...
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on: June 22, 2005, 05:51:48 am
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I actually won the tournament with TPS, with gifts and red for recoup
I went 4-0, and lost last round (opp. was 3-1, needed the win)
R1 Dragon R2 UGW fish (orlove like, koen dekker) R3 control slaver R4 oath R5 control slaver
The top 8 2 TPS 1 control slaver/titanslaver 1 elves 1 affinity 1 Mono black 1 stax 1 oath
Top 8 match against david martinez, with mono black I lost game 1, after a mulligan which could lost to null rod, and it did, he had it turn 1, turn 2 would be ok, but not turn 1
I get quick necro and win
I get duressed he picked wrong card, and I punish him with, walk, tutor, ritual necro, and win with collosus
Top4 against stax, joram de kraker, teammate I start with, lotus 2 mox, land, necro, and win next turn. He starts of slow, at some point I play necro, and after that I could only tendrils him for 16, with tinker in hand, just needed to wait to topdeck a mox.
Top 2 against sjoerd, affinity I win after turn 2 collosus with walk I win after gifts voor rebuild, will, chain of vapor, hurkyls recall, i create massive storm with artifact mana and bounce, and win the mox with a tendrils for 26!
I took home the ruby, there were exactly 40 players, the top 8 was asks if they wanted the ruby and boosters, or some other card prizes, everbody prefered the ruby, thats why there was like no price support for the rest of the top 8.
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Archives / Tournament Announcement Forum / [Announcement] Leiden, The Netherlands, t1 for MOX Emerald, July third!!!
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on: June 19, 2005, 05:38:10 pm
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[I was asked via PM to post this on behalf of Vincent Captein] Type I Mox Emerald tournament July 3rd, Leiden Netherlands July 3rd I will organise a type I tournament in Leiden, the netherlands. If there are at least 50 players, the first place will be a mox emerald. For top 8 there will be other prizes. Tournament location is: Buurthuis Op Eigen Wieken Valkenpad 3/5 2317 AN Leiden Entree fee is 10 euro. Doors open at 10:00 tournament start at 11:00 Most likely there will be 6 rounds followed by top 8 (from 50 players) For preregistration sent email to: captainvinny@hotmail.com including your name and dci-number if you have. Please do, so we have an idea on how many people will be there. makes it a lot easier for us. There’s room for 85 people, so please prereg. Decklists are necessary, so we can give a nice prize for best non-powered deck also. See you in Leiden!
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Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: Pithing Needle
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on: May 21, 2005, 01:02:55 pm
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I think its really good, you can stop welders with it, and bazaars.
What about the new blue fork? Its very nice against wills, you can abuse and then stop his will.
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Eternal Formats / Global Vintage Tournament Reports and Results / [Results] Leiden 6-3
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on: March 10, 2005, 03:36:52 pm
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Attendance: 71
After 7 rounds of swiss
5-0-2 (1) steffen (control slaver) 5-0-2 (2) [rvs] rudy van soest (sensei, sensei) 5-1-1 (3) jaap brouwer (5/3) 5-1-1 (4) [eddie] wouter dhondt (control slaver) 5-1-1 (5) stefan gussenhoven (celeberal assasin) 5-1-1 (6) goswin zeeman (landstill) 5-1-1 (7) floris dirkse (TPS) 5-1-1 (8) [daniel_112] Daniel paardekooper (gifted)
Great tourney, loads of fun people, great place, and a mox pearl for the winner.
Top 8 matches (1) steffen (control slaver) 1-2 (8) daniel paardekooper (gifted) (2) rudy van soest (sensei, sensei) 2-0 (7) floris dirkse (TPS) (3) jaap brouwer (5/3) 2-? (6) goswin zeeman (UW control ofzo) (4) wouter dhondt (control slaver) 2-1 (5) stefan gussenhoven (celeberal assasin)
Top 4 (8) daniel paardekooper (gifted) 2-0 (4) wouter dhondt (control slaver) (2) rudy van soest (sensei, sensei) 0-2 (3) jaap brouwer (5/3)
Top 2 (3) jaap brouwer (5/3) 2-1 (8) daniel paardekooper (gifted)
1 Jaap brouwer 2 Daniel Paardekooper [daniel_112] 3 Rudy van Soest [rvs] 4 Wouter Dhondt [eddie] 5 Steffen 6 Stefan gussenhoven 7 Goswin Zeeman 8 Floris Dirkse
1 Jaap Brouwer – Sheldon-show
4 Metalworker 4 Juggernaut 3 Su-Chi 4 Trinisphere 3 Crucible of Worlds 3 Tangle Wire 2 Triskelion 2 Goblin Welder 1 Sundering Titan 1 Mindslaver 1 Darksteel Colossus 1 Platinum Angel 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Time Walk 1 Memory Jar 1 Tinker 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Vampiric Tutor 1 Black Lotus 1 Sol Ring 1 Mana Crypt 5 Moxen
1 Tolarian Academy 4 Mishra’s Workshop 1 Strip Mine 4 Wasteland 3 Gemstone Mine 4 City of Brass
Sideboard: 3 Jester’s Cap 2 Tormod’s Crypt 3 Swords to plowshares 3 Rack and Ruin 3 Pyroblast 1 Duplicant
2. Daniel Paardekooper – Gifted
4 Mana Drain 4 Force of Will 4 Brainstorm 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Yawgmoth’s Will 1 Tinker 1 Darksteel Colossus 1 Vampiric Tutor 2 Deep Analysis 1 Merchant Scroll 1 Time Walk 1 Intuition 1 Cunning Wish 4 Accumulated Knowledge 2 Gifts Ungiven 1 Burning Wish 1 Lava Dart 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Recoup 1 Mind Twist 1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Strip Mine 5 Moxen 1 Black Lotus 1 Mana Crypt 1 Sol Ring 1 Tolarian Academy 4 Polluted Delta 3 Volcanic Island 3 Underground Sea 4 Island 1 Flooded Strand
Sideboard: 1 Diabolic Edict 3 Duress 1 Deep Analysis 2 Flametongue Kavu 2 REB 1 Rack and Ruin 1 Shattering Pulse 1 Fire/Ice 1 Damping Matrix 1 Skeletal Scrying 1 Claws of Gix
3. Rudy van Soest
5 Island 3 Polluted Delta 2 Underground Sea 2 Flooded Strand 1 Tolarian Academy
3 Sensei's Divining Top 3 Helm of Awakening 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Emerald 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Pearl 1 Sol Ring 1 Mana Crypt 1 Mana Vault 1 Black Lotus
4 Accumulated Knowledge 4 Force of Will 3 Mana Drain 3 Deep Analysis 3 Cunning Wish 3 Future Sight 2 Intuition 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Timetwister 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Yawgmoth's Will 1 Vampiric Tutor 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Rebuild 1 Frantic Search 1 Merchant Scroll
Sideboard 3 Chalice of the Void 2 Annul 2 Tormod's Crypt 1 Brain Freeze 1 Coffin Purge 1 Rebuild 1 Echoing Truth 1 Lim-Dul's Vault 1 Stifle 1 Blue Elemental Blast 1 Chain of Vapor
4. Wouter Dhondt
4 Island 1 Darksteel Citadel 1 Strip Mine 2 Polluted Delta 4 Volcanic Island 1 Underground Sea 3 Flooded Strand
4 Goblin Welder 1 Triskelion 1 Platinum Angel 1 Ancestral Recall 4 Brainstorm 3 Intuition 4 Accumulated Knowledge 4 Thirst for Knowledge 4 Force of Will 4 Mana Drain 1 Tinker 1 Black Lotus 1 Mana Crypt 5 Moxen 1 Sol Ring 1 Time Walk 1 Mindslaver 1 Crucible of Worlds 1 Yawgmoth’s Will 1 Demonic Tutor
Sideboard: 3 Rack and Ruin 1 Duplicant 3 Lava Dart 2 Old Man of the Sea 2 Arcane Laboratory 1 Pentavus 1 AEther Spellbomb 1 Coffin Purge
5.Steffen van de Veen
1 Library of Alexandria 1 Strip Mine 1 Tolarian Academy 1 Seat of the Synod 2 Island 2 Underground Sea 4 Volcanic Island 4 Polluted Delta 5 Moxen 1 Black Lotus 1 Mana Crypt 1 Sol Ring
4 Brainstorm 3 Thirst for Knowledge 3 Intuition 2 Deep Analysis 4 Mana Drain 4 Force of Will 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Time Walk 1 Tinker 1 Lava Dart 4 Goblin Welder 1 Vampiric Tutor 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Yawgmoth’s Will 1 Crucible of Worlds 1 Platinum Angel 1 Triskelion 1 Mindslaver
Sideboard: 4 REB 2 Lava Dart 2 Rack and Ruin 1 Shattering Pulse 1 Viashino Heretic 1 Tormod’s Crypt 1 Sundering Titan 3 Waterfront Bouncer
6. Stefan Gussenhoven – Plan #B
1 Black Lotus 5 Moxen 1 Mana Crypt 1 Sol Ring 1 Mana Vault 1 Tolarian Academy 4 Bazaar of Baghdad 4 Gemstone Mine 4 City of Brass 1 Underground River 1 Shivan Reef 1 Seat of the Synod
4 Goblin Welder 4 Thirst for Knowledge 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Time Walk 1 Yawgmoth’s Will 4 Animate Dead 1 Crop Rotation 2 Intuition 4 Squee, Goblin Nabob 2 Sundering Titan 1 Duplicant 1 Possessed Portal 1 Platinum Angel 4 Force of Will 1 Tinker 1 Entomb 1 Triskelion 1 Fire/Ice
Sideboard 4 Orim’s Chant 3 Tormod’s Crypt 3 Energy Flux 1 Disrupting Shoal 3 Claws of Gix 1 Triskelion
7. Goswin Zeeman list comning up later
8. Floris Dirkse – TPS
4 Underground Sea 4 Polluted Delta 1 Flooded Strand 1 Volcanic Island 1 Tolarian Academy 2 Island 1 Swamp 4 Dark Ritual 5 Moxen 1 Mana Crypt 1 Mana Vault 1 Black Lotus 1 Sol Ring 1 Lotus Petal
2 Tendrils of Agony 1 Darksteel Colossus 4 Force of Will 4 Duress 4 Brainstorm 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Vampiric Tutor 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Rebuild 1 Echoing Truth 1 Cunning Wish 1 Time Walk 1 Mind’s Desire 1 Yawgmoth’s Bargain 1 Yawgmoth’s Will 1 Necropotence 1 Tinker 1 Fact or Fiction 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Memory Jar 1 Timetwister 1 wheel of Fortune
Sideboard: 3 Skeletal Scrying 2 Rebuild 2 Misdirection 1 BEB 1 REB 1 Coffin Purge 1 Brain Freeze 1 Rushing River 1 Chain of Vapor 1 Echoing Truth 1 Stifle
Edit: fixed sideboard problems
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