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1  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: New card-draw land on: December 14, 2015, 02:44:14 pm
There are shop decks running expedition map, and I can see this being a one-off in those decks, replacing other one-offs like buried ruins in Nick's list.

Also, works well with bottled cloister.
2  Eternal Formats / Western/Pacific U.S. / Re: [Seattle, WA] Vintage at CardKingdom - Dec 12 on: December 07, 2015, 02:42:47 pm
This happens this weekend! Go go go!
3  Eternal Formats / Western/Pacific U.S. / GP Seatac - Vintage Side Events Nov 6,7 and 8! on: September 21, 2015, 03:26:58 pm
There would be 3 Sanctioned Vintage Side Events in Grand Prix - Seattle Tacoma. So if you are heading out to play some legacy, make sure you bring your vintage decks with you!

Nov 6 Friday 6:30 p.m.
Nov 7 Saturday 6:30 p.m.
Nov 8 Sunday 10:30 p.m.
4  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: MTGO Play Points & changes to Dailies on: July 23, 2015, 03:58:52 pm
I cashed out earlier as well. Cardhoarder was offering 2% less than they originally would due to the spike of people selling out their collection.

I haven't had a lot of time to play lately and mainly use MTGO to test out my paper decks. My LGS have been hosting monthly vintage events, which is the frequency I'm able to join the dailies anyway.The client have been abysmal to me lately and it doesn't make much sense for me to try and put up with it. I also, don't want to lose anymore money due to the potential of prices plummeting, us early vintage adopters already lost a couple of hundreds due the P9 and fetches price drops.

Hoping that the MTGO play points would somehow be the online currency for MTGO in the future and that it would replace event tickets all together. Also hoping that they would create some sort of online market place for people to buy and sell their cards. There is no reason for us to depend on MTGO bots to handle the secondary market. I would be happy to reinvest my money, if and when, they all sort this out.
5  Eternal Formats / Global Vintage Tournament Reports and Results / Re: 5c Stax @ GPAC - A journey from the bottom to the top! on: May 14, 2015, 12:05:41 pm
I have never been so excited to see a deck! I'm definitely trying this one out!

6  Eternal Formats / Western/Pacific U.S. / Re: Bellevue WA - Mox Boarding House - Vintage FNM 4/17/2015 on: April 17, 2015, 03:30:47 pm
Another Vintage tournament tonight if anyone is interested
7  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: Can we answer a Mentor? on: February 26, 2015, 02:27:38 am
Illness in the Ranks has potential - kills all the baby monks and elementals. Plus it deals with sprit tokens, potentially saving you from Oath. If you get 2 in play it also deals with dredge.

Doesn't kill mentor, but a 2/2 prowess is easier to deal with, than a swarm of monks.
8  Eternal Formats / Western/Pacific U.S. / Bellevue WA - Mox Boarding House - Vintage FNM 4/17/2015 on: February 11, 2015, 01:04:14 pm
Late update, there's another one tonight Smile

9  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Vintage daily 11/8 3:30 - Anyone interested in getting this one to fire? on: November 15, 2014, 05:37:04 pm
I'll try and join the 6:30 PST event, the 11:30 event fired today 28 participants! Wooot!
10  Eternal Formats / Eternal Article Discussion / Re: SMIP Podcast # 40 Vintage Championship Results, Treasure Cruise, and More on: November 11, 2014, 03:19:31 am
Thanks guys! Always a pleasure listening to these podcasts while doing some development work.

I play almost exclusively on MODO and play mostly delver, and I wholeheartedly vote for the restriction of TC, and the banning of the card in every other eternal format. Unless wizards drops a bomb and print something that neuters the card.  If the online metagame is any indication of where modern and legacy is going, the ban hammer needs to drop, and soon. I think the fear of a ridiculous delve card is coming is justified, and we just need to wait on what comes out. What I would find interesting, is that, since delve feeds upon each other, and if other broken delve cards come out, how would deck builders utilize these cards. Obviously you would need to pick and choose the delve card/s you would include in your 75. In theory, if say a delve time walk is to be released, what would be more important to a delver pilot, drawing cards or taking extra turns? Or would players just run more tutors and run less copies of both?

As one of the players that started running UR builds online before khans was releaseed, i can attest that there is very little to be gained by running UR vs RUG, in theory you get the more stable mana base, but 2 tropical islands doesn't make the deck a lot more vulnerable to wasteland that running 4 volcanics. Although, I disagree that UR weakens the shop matchup, the matchup is about the same wether you go with UR or RUG, but RUG affords you the more flexible answers.

What do guys think of the most appropriate tinkerbot at this time? Blightsteel has surely lost some of its flare due to dack fayden, inkwell is easy enough to race. I find Sphinx to be the strongest choice vs delver as we cant race and run no cards that removes it. Blightsteel is still the top choice, based on the results, I was wondering what consideration do you take into account when choosing the most appropriate tinker bot.

Also, could delver's dominance prove to be good in the long run? It is by far the cheapest powered deck to build, having no need for off color mox, tme vaults, and drains.
11  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: Beating Pyromancer in KTK on: November 04, 2014, 06:24:49 pm
I've replaced the fire/ice in my main for a copy of Grapeshot and it's been awesome!
12  Eternal Formats / Online Tournaments / MTGO Vintage Tournament: Bad Moon Rising 1.05 Thursday, November 6 at 830PM EST on: November 01, 2014, 01:19:17 am
Shameless copy paste from the previous thread c/o enderfall.
It's free and it's fun! Time to test out those anti delver decks!

Details of the event can be found here:

Free to enter and you can win bot credits and Vintage Masters packs!

Make sure you come out for this event if you can. Due to lack of significant number of participants the last couple of times, the organizer is considering ending the event if more people don't show up. As is, the event is really good EV since there's only been about 12 people in the prior events!!
13  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: [C14] - Containment Priest on: October 31, 2014, 06:00:45 pm
This also allows you to blink your opponents creatures out of existence via cards like flickerwisp, which could be a surprisingly good strategy.
14  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Magic Online Power Nine Owners on: October 31, 2014, 03:26:03 pm
A quick check on mtggolfish.
Pearl 35
Emerald 35
Walk 50
AR 70
Ruby 45
Jet 55
Sapphire 80
Lotus 170

And they are slowly declining. I too have been trying to join the daily events and they always fail to fire. There was one that fired on the 18th and on the 26th.

On a happier note - there is a Bad Moon Rising event again on November 6.

I still plan to keep my power for now - I'm hoping that the lower prices would attract new players and hopefully the dailies would start firing again!
15  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: [CNS]Dack Fayden on: October 31, 2014, 03:11:45 am
Been running Dack in delver ever since VMA and never looked back. His card filtering ability is often underestimated, his +1 has won me a lot of games, that I would have lost, simply by giving me the best card of my top 3 each turn. Yeah the initial activation isn't too sexy but the succeeding one just gives value. Pre-TC you dump the extra lands drawn through Gush which, now it also fuels your TC. Two copies would remain in my 75 for a looong time.
16  Eternal Formats / Blue-Based Control / Re: UR Pyro Cruise on: October 26, 2014, 07:03:37 pm
I would much rather have snapcaster mage in the jeskai elder slot. Yes it does compete with treasure cruise, but in my testing, more often than not, you can spare that one card you want to snap-back from delve.
Also I would run 4 misstep instead of 4 probes. Rich Shay's list on the TMD MTGOOpen 3 pyroblast main deck which I would seriously consider in a blue infested meta,then you basically dedicate your entire board to hate out shops and dredge.

How's your SB looking?
17  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Cockatrice Problem on: October 23, 2014, 08:16:34 pm
18  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Double Sleeving? on: October 22, 2014, 02:29:10 am
Coming from a country where the price of a lotus would allow you survive for a year, off-course I double sleeve!
If you happen to watch those crazy wizards, slinging spell in their top-loaders, I used to be one of them. A lot of us have now settled to using perfect-fits and dragon shields Very Happy
19  Eternal Formats / Online Tournaments / Re: TMD MTGO Open - October 19th on: October 21, 2014, 04:39:02 pm
I would have run 1~2 Misdirections if they didn't cost $100, and would probably have played a few copies of wasteland.

I'm primarily playing Delver because a lot of the pieces overlap with Modern and Legacy, which is a huge plus if you play or plan to play other formats.
20  Eternal Formats / Online Tournaments / Re: TMD MTGO Open - October 19th on: October 19, 2014, 08:14:56 pm
I think the entrance is fair if you prereg, but the the price for registering late is too much. A $5 difference might be enough to get people to prereg while not turning off those that registering late.

Thanks for running the event! Hoping for a next one in the near future!
21  Eternal Formats / Online Tournaments / Re: TMD MTGO Open on: October 04, 2014, 01:43:10 am
I'm from the west coast and I wouldn't mind waking up at 6 for the event. I would seriously prefer the earlier timeslot which allows me to do something else in the afternoon, I would need to give my brain a jolt though - I'm not a morning person =P.

If helps momentum, I would preregister next week. As with some folks here, I was just waiting to test out Khans before committing, and see if there are shifts in the meta game. Since we could still change the deck list prior to the event, early registration shouldn't be a problem.

I'm really hoping this event pushes through.
22  Eternal Formats / Online Tournaments / Re: TMD MTGO Open on: October 03, 2014, 03:28:37 am
I don't think people are seeing this, I've been checking TMD quite often and just saw the topic. I'm planning to join this one, just waiting for Khans to be released in MODO, try some things out before finalizing my deck list.

Is there a minimum number of players for this event?
23  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: jeskai ascendancy on: October 01, 2014, 02:17:57 pm
I would try Obsessive Research in this shell, just because madness was such an awesome mechanic, and I've been looking for an excuse to play it. Plus it nets you a card with the engine active.
24  Eternal Formats / Eternal Article Discussion / Re: NYSE Open II Tournament Report *Top 8* with URg Delver on: September 08, 2014, 03:54:41 pm
You would have to email them and ask for it, at least that was how I got my copy.
25  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: [KTR] - Narset Enlightened Master on: September 04, 2014, 03:07:13 am
I'm not sure this would see play in vintage, but definitely ban worthy in commander.
26  Eternal Formats / Blue-Based Control / Re: UR Delver on: August 27, 2014, 12:58:58 pm
I've started to drop the {G} splash in favor of running 2 Dack Fayden - MD and I'm liking it so far. In my testing Dack has won games where I would have lost if not for Dack's excellent filtering ability. With misstep, spell pierce and spell snare, finding the right counter spell is tricky and Dack just gives excellent card quality over a series of activation that it simply can't be dismissed, while also protecting us from Tinker > Colossus.

Here's the deck that I'm currently running, I havenít been home early enough to join the Qualifiers or Dailies, but recent 4-0's/4-1 in MTGO seem to follow this trend as well, with a couple of players running the exact same 60/75 which much success.

Card Draw/Broken Things
2 Dack Fayden
1 Ponder
4 Preordain
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Brainstorm
4 Gush
1 Skullclamp
1 Time Walk

4 Delver of Secrets
3 Snapcaster Mage
4 Young Pyromancer

1 Fire & Ice
2 Flusterstorm
4 Force of Will
4 Lightning Bolt
3 Mental Misstep
1 Spell Pierce
2 Spell Snare

1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
3 Island
3 Misty Rainforest
4 Scalding Tarn
1 Strip Mine
3 Volcanic Island

3 Grafdigger's Cage
4 Ingot Chewer
4 Leyline of the Void
2 Pyroblast
1 Shattering Spree
1 Mountain

Yes, it does sacrifice a lot vs the Oath Matchup in favor of beating BUG and Grixis Control, but if you can get ahead on card advantage then you are usually in good shape vs Oath.

Not sure if dropping green is the correct approach at this point, running UR vs URx has very little upside. Vs shops you would rarely fetch for {G} unless you are able to get to the mid game. I'm curious if anyone has tried splashing other colors recently, and if it has worked well for them?
27  Eternal Formats / Online Tournaments / Re: Let's fire another one! Vintage PE, Saturday July 19th on: July 19, 2014, 07:35:44 pm
Too bad, but there would always be a next time!
28  Eternal Formats / Online Tournaments / Re: Let's fire another one! Vintage PE, Saturday July 19th on: July 18, 2014, 08:25:58 pm
Awesome! I'll be in this one!
29  Eternal Formats / Blue-Based Control / Re: UR Delver on: July 15, 2014, 07:04:30 pm
Managed to make top 4 with this deck on the first ever premier event last Sunday on MTGO, which made me really happy! I haven’t played vintage in a long time. I own the cards IRL but there doesn't seem to be a vintage scene here in Seattle (?) and I can't travel to other states to play.
I based my list on Smmenen's list for NYSE II, Lands and SB is very much identical, I made a couple of changes main deck, why I made those changes are explained below. I did a lot of play testing over the week to get me familiarized on how to properly play a Gush deck.

A brief tournament report based on my memory (which isn't that good now-a-days =P).

URg Delver
Planeswalker (1)
1 Dack Fayden

Creature (12)
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Young Pyromancer
2 Snapcaster Mage
2 Trygon Predator

Sorcery (6)
1 Ponder
4 Preordain
1 Time Walk

Instant (24)
4 Force of Will
2 Flusterstorm
4 Mental Misstep
2 Spell Pierce

1 Ancestral Recall
1 Brainstorm
4 Gush

4 Lightning Bolt
1 Nature's Claim
1 Ancient Grudge

Artifact (3)
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Skullclamp

Land (14)
2 Island
2 Tropical Island
3 Volcanic Island
3 Misty Rainforest
4 Scalding Tarn

Sideboard (15)
1 Dack Fayden
3 Grafdigger's Cage
4 Ingot Chewer
4 Leyline of the Void
1 Mountain
2 Pyroblast

Notable changes in the deck
Dack Fayden + 1 Main + 1 SB:
Dack has been amazing in testing. Next to drawing cards for 1 mana with skullclamp, nothing makes me happier that gushing then dumping extra lands via Dack. His -2 is only a bonus. I have been able to reach ultimate range with him, but never felt the need to activate it. 1 in the sideboard was mainly for shops.

1 Skullclamp:
Skullclamp, like Dack, is only there for the incidental value. For both cards - I felt that I drew them exactly when I needed them and they never felt dead. I fear that increasing the count of both Dack and Skullclamp to more than 1 in the main wouldn't be worth it.

0 Misdirection:
I would have probably played 1 - but I could never justify paying 80$ for it, so I added a full set of bolt. I would probably test out a Mindbreak Trap in its place.

0 Black Lotus:
Budget mainly - I allotted a certain amount for MTGO this month and felt that 2 moxen, + AR and Time Walk was a better investment for URg Delver. Would probably get one for the next event

0 Mystical:
Would probably pick up one for the next event, the deck has been good at giving me the cards that I need, thanks to the cantrips and I couldn't find through the bots.

0 Fire // Ice:
This would be stellar with a Dack Emblem, but surprisingly it was a little hard to look for - turned out they had gazillions in mtgotraders. Would probably add 1 in the main.

LordSapphire with LandStill, 2 - 0:
1 - Can't remember much but I had a couple of misplay on this one, I often misplay ponder and brainstorm, ending up putting the cards I need the most on the bottom. I accidentally put my force on the bottom of my BS pile and he resolved a standstill. I broke it and drew him 3 cards. I was able to win through delver and Pyromancer beats

2 - He started of a library and I cantrip go. Played a play a pyromancer t2 and we had a counter exchange afterwards. He couldn't find an answer in time.

G0ogle  with Landstill, 1 - 2:
1 - He was able to resolve as standstill 3 times in G2, I couldn't recover.
2 - Made a misplay on g3 that caused me the game - I made the decision to use my spell pierce to counter his drain keeping, my pyroblast for something else. On his next turn he played a crucible and I got locked out of the game.

sylverfyre with Affinity(?), 2 - 0
1 - He started with 2 1/1 lifelink, fliers. I was able to draw an ancient grudge and destroyed his threats while resolving a Trygon Predator, he scooped.
2 - He was able to get a clamp into play eating a memnite and a signal pest. I had a delver and young pyromancer. Ancient tomb eats his life with the help of some swings from delver. Drew a bolt when he was down to 2

powergamer1003 with UBW Control, 2 - 0
1 - I resolved a skullclamp with pyromancer in play.
2 - I went for a t1 delver which got countered. He played a confidant which I tried to counter, he had a force and it resolves. I drew a land on my next turn and used the red mana for a bolt. I managed to play a Trygon, then a Dack, while he had a trinket and a top. I activated Dack dumping a Pyroblast and a land, I was debating that spell pierce would be the better counter since he only had 3 mana sources and he would be using 1 of that to activate top. He did just that and tried to play AR, I spell pierced. On my turn I Gushed, then dumped extra lands using Dack. On the same turn I played Snapcaster - he scooped.

TheLastKing with BUG with Truename, 2 - 1
1 & 2 - Can't remember much but one thing I know is that True Name is a pain in the @$$.
3 - I was able to race 2 TNN with a delver and predator. I had to bolt him once and use nature's claim on my mox to survive, the game ended with me at 1 life with force of will in hand.

JDPheonix with Dredge! 2 - 0
1 - I was able to generate 8 elemental tokens with two Pyromancers, and had a Snapcaster and a Delver! I did not expect to win vs dredge on game 1 with the hand that I kept.
2 - I mulled to 5 with Grafdigger and some protection. I manage to land a single delver and protect the cage for the win.

aaronmm67 with Grixis control, 2-0
1 - Won from Pyromancer beats.
2 - Won on the back of multiple delvers.

KowalLazy with Manly Slaver!
3 - Got really greedy with my last round -  I had Force, Ancestral and Dack Fayden in play, I let tinker resolve thinking that whatever he's tinkering for I can just steal, forgot he had he had Slaver (duh! he even had drain mana). On my turn he drew bunch of cards with my AR and filtered his hand with my Dack. There was still hope for me, as he only had a few artifacts in play. But between AR, a bunch of Dack Fayden activations - he found his Yawgmoth's Will, and I got mind controlled me to death.

The deck played very smoothly for me. I made a couple of misplays but I didn't get really punished for it. There are a couple of things that I would change in the next tournament. I would probably move the Leylines out of the board and go with a full set of cage, I would probably add 1 more ancient grudge and reduce the mental missteps to 3, and try to make space for a lotus and a mystical tutor. I would keep the lightning bolts as a 4-off as I feel that they are very strong in the online metagame.

I love how I was able to play vintage and be silly with my daughter in between rounds. MTGO is great for Dads like myself Smile
30  Eternal Formats / Online Tournaments / Re: Magic Online Vintage Premiere Event, July 13th (Possibly First Ever!) on: July 14, 2014, 02:37:43 am
I'd play regardless of the start time Smile

Before I forget - thanks Smmenen for sharing your pyromancer list! The deck I run was mostly based on your list, with a few tweaks here and there, the sideboard was photocopy of the list you run in NYSE, with a single card difference.

Thanks for playing it out Kowal - I was going to concede but something in me kinda hope for a miracle! I haven't seen slaver played in a while, getting killed by mind control was awesome!
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