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Eternal Formats / Northeast U.S. / Re: N.Y.S.E. Open IV - Power Eight, Workshops & Drains Tournament - 6/4/16
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on: March 22, 2016, 11:10:37 am
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Going to try to make this. Some logistics questions:
Getting to Long Island - It appears that my options are fly into New York and take a series of trains or pay a a bit more and fly direct to ISP. How bad is that series of trains?
Getting around Long Island - The closest hotel is around 4 miles away. The airport is around 10 miles away. I assume calling $local_cab_co is the way to go. If so, what's the pricing like up there?
Doing stuff: I'm probably going to make this a vintage-only weekend. IE, I'm coming in Friday night and leaving Sunday morning. No going into the city for me. Is there anything going on Friday or Saturday night that an out-of-towner like myself might participate in?
My quick and dirty search turned up that flying to Islip is probably a loss for you, I think it is actually cheaper to fly into LaGuardia and actually rent a car. Easier too, since you can just go wherever you want then and not have to deal with a cab company or the trains or any of that. If you want, you can message me here or at The Source if you want to see what I uncovered. |
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Eternal Formats / Blue-Based Control / Re: Why play Bomberman? (NE US)
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on: March 10, 2016, 01:58:06 pm
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pregnant wife (priorities, ya know..) Sure do, got one of those myself at the moment. Dark Confidant is really a pet card for me, I have tried to work it into any deck I play that is on Black and part of me wished I was on 3 instead of 2. The games where it stuck I was able to pull so far ahead on cards, then combined with either a Jace or a Top forget about it...either your opponent answers it fast or you can stack your hand with counters and play defense. Shhh, keep it a secret. Confidant is still a very playable card. People who want to load up on things like Flusterstorm, REBs, and other things like that are usually soft to him. Not to mention it makes people keep, or board in, removal, which can be good if your deck is built to exploit that. In this deck, it's good to draw out the removal that might be aimed at Salvagers. Last Eternal Weekend I had 4 Confidants in my deck and I wouldn't have wanted them to be anything else. I don't get to play Vintage much any more though, so I can't really give you too much more. My decklist was (and still basically is) pretty much from 2010 (but it's not Bomerman) and it's still surprisingly good. |
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Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Reserve List Card Spike?
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on: February 25, 2016, 09:21:20 am
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That said... go and pick up old school cards - THOSE are the real deal  That's why I am glad that here in the Us most Old School events here allow FBB cards. Beta is just such a small run and Unlimited isn't much higher (by modern standards). Even Alpha, Beta and Unlimited together is a drop in the bucket compared to Revised plus FBBs. Some of these spikes are pretty rough and it's super easy to buy things out with such low supply. By the way, I'm happy to take any FBB stuff of your hands, if you want,   |
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Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Reserve List Card Spike?
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on: February 24, 2016, 02:56:41 pm
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Oh as far as I know, the intent is to have a weak US dollar in order to promote US exports...
The strong dollar has fueled a lot of my buying, at least. From H's comments, I'd believe it has fueled his as well. The euro dipped below $1.10 again today. Take advantage of it while it lasts. Well, it certainly has helped. I am well priced out of Beta anything, so I have been slowly picking up some FBB stuff. It's still cheaper to get it from Europe than it is to pay the (usually) highly inflated costs most have on that same stuff here. I really wish I could pick up some Tundras right now, but I still do have to pay my mortgage and feed the kids, so that's not really going to happen for the time being... |
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Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Reserve List Card Spike?
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on: February 24, 2016, 12:06:47 pm
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It'd be easier if the dollar improved against the Euro, but I think that's a pipe-dream at this point.
More than it has already this year...? It's been rather stagnant this year (2016) at 1.10 to 1. I guess you meant in 2015? Yeah, coming out of 2014 there was a dramatic change down from 1.4 to about where we are now. I should have been clear, parity was what I was alluding to though. I through most of 2015 I kept reading how parity was right around the corner, but it never materialized. I have a feeling it won't happen in 2016 either. |
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Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Reserve List Card Spike?
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on: February 19, 2016, 08:22:17 am
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When I got back in, I went for quality, and not quantity, and I'm not necessarily happy either. I've parted out a lot in the last five years, but there's a part of me that still very much wishes that I had the collection I had back then, with multiple sets of blue duals, the rest of a Revised set, Shops, Bazaars, English and Italian Drains, four sets of Forces, etc.
The grass is always greener on the other side!
Yeah, good point actually. Thinking back, what I was really doing to building up to actually playing competitively. By 2006, I had never played anything besides kitchen table Magic. The Time Spiral prerelease was my first competitive event. So, as I was buying things up, I had literally no idea what I would want to play so I just bought everything. It was only once I started playing Vintage with you guys that I really had an idea of what I wanted to play. Luckily though, my broad approach let me play Legacy now that I am down here where Vintage is a total pipe-dream. We'll be lucky here if any of us still have jobs in the next few months. I was lucky to pick up some other random things that spiked, like a slightly played Chaos Orb from Unlimited for about 45 bucks last year. I think they are trending toward 100 now. I might not get to play Old School until next year, or more, but I still like the idea of it and I figured it'd be best to move before I can't. |
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Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Reserve List Card Spike?
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on: February 18, 2016, 02:55:00 pm
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I have to agree with this. Moxes have appreciated at a much lower pace the last 5+ years compared to cards like wasteland, FoW, dual lands, chains, moat, etc. I would also guess that moxes are probably one of the last major cards a person will purchase.
You have to figure that with the price already so high there's much less room for movement in Moxen prices, so I think that makes sense. Also just less formats to play them in. It seems like a lot of people don't even get the Legacy action they want, let alone Vintage. Yeah, I live in the middle of no-where, but we have a decent Legacy community. We had a couple Vintage players, but those days are gone (this is oil country). I was working on getting a bunch of FBB duals and I just picked up on yesterday, but with prices going the way they have, I might be priced out of them soon (with kid #6 on the way). I still have 42 Revised duals, so it's not as if I am really hurting. I play Vintage about once a year now, but I still have my Power. I'm lucky to have bought playsets of nearly everything important between 2007 and 2010 and lucky to have been able to buy a house and a minivan without moving really any of it. I've got other dumbly expensive things like an English Imperial Seal, a mint Tabernacle, a playset of Moats, etc, so I am relatively set to build nearly anything. I'm at 11 FBB duals now (luckily 4 of those are Seas) but getting more will probably be tough going forward. It'd be easier if the dollar improved against the Euro, but I think that's a pipe-dream at this point. I should really have moved on those in 2007, along with more Beta stuff, but I decided to go for quantity over quality, which was dumb. |
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Eternal Formats / Blue-Based Control / Re: Odd Oath
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on: February 09, 2016, 07:18:03 am
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Rich, I am curious if you considered any number of Engineered Explosives for the sideboard?
An EE for 0 can certainly help clear up tokens you gave them, or of course Monks or Elementals. I have also used it often to destroy my own Mana Crypt when need be. There is also it's effect versus Shops and Spheres, which I also consider a benefit over Pernicious Deed. Don't get me wrong, Deed is one of my top 3 favorite Magic cards ever, but this is just an idea that came to me when reading over your issue with Mana Crypt.
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Eternal Formats / Blue-Based Control / Re: Odd Oath
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on: February 03, 2016, 08:16:19 am
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Wouldn't Bogardan Hellkite be better than Inferno Titan?
I guess the turn you Oath into it, in theory, yeah. However, if you end up having to hardcast it, 6 is a lot more manageable than 8. Plus, with all the ways to Firebreathe him in this list, Titan swinging in unblocked can be substantially more damage. In the end, I think on the balance Titan ends up deal more damage. For example, versus a goldfish, Hellkite does 10 over two turns. Titan deals 12, plus 1 for each Red mana you have over the same two turn. |
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Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Eternal Masters Set and other leaks
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on: January 22, 2016, 08:14:03 am
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Maybe choose a couple of eternal themes to help drafting, plenty of tribal (Rath Block Slivers, Merfolk, Elves, Goblins, Soldiers all have some things that could use a reprint).
Put the Zendifetches @ Rare to help squelch the cries.
I'd expect Storm in there. High Tide, the blue cantrip suite, Brain Freeze at common, Tendrils at Uncommon, maybe Time Spiral at rare. (I'd say Palinchron but it's a rare twice and would be a shitbadawful rare in Eternal Masters) Time Spiral and Pally are reserved list so they are non starters. But your point is well taken ... a Dark Ritual with some absolutely hideous art is expected. Is the Urza's Saga art too much to ask for! The Saga art was already reprinted in one of the Duel Decks, I think the Phyrexian one. They should really have done the Tempest art in the FTV, or at least the Masques ones. |
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Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Is Your Current Vintage Deck Proxy Free?
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on: January 14, 2016, 10:01:01 am
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I own everything, no white border cards that aren't P3K. I hate proxies and looking at poorly made ones irritates me as I enjoy the aesthetics of a nice looking vintage deck. That being said I wish they'd abolish the reserved list and judiciously reprint cards off it (the foil loophole closing was really a shame). I also wish they'd allow IE/CE/Gold cards, that are unmarked.
I am actually curious about wizards stance on the blank gold border cards they put in every Worlds deck that they used to sell. They literally provided us the means to make our own proxy's, unless I am completely missing the point of these cards. As if their policies from 10 years ago, 10 months ago, or 10 minutes ago are consistent? Just like their stated policies from one "spokesperson" to another is consistent? |
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Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Is Your Current Vintage Deck Proxy Free?
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on: January 14, 2016, 08:24:09 am
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The vintage deck I have tried to make is a grixis delver deck with cabal therapy. I have so many proxies in it that I couldn't even go to most proxy vintage tournaments. I've been trying to get more real cards to get inside the limit, but so far I'm missing quite a bit.
That's not the deck I would prefer to play, but I'd rather have that than nothing at all.
The closest vintage events are several hours away at least so I don't worry about it too much. I had been trying to drum up interest in a total proxy event in my town but I don't know if the store owner would allow us to play anymore.
I guess it depends on your store's level of tin-foil hattery, but if you collect the entry and pay out to the winner, essentially not involving the store at all, then it's no different than casual play, something the store is at no obligation to police. Once upon a time, 3 years ago, when I moved down here, we had 6 people that could play sanctioned. Now, it's just me. My buying splurges of 2007 and 2010 look better and better in retrospect, even though it was still stupid not to get Beta stuff. On the one hand, it feels dumb to be hanging on to all sorts of non-sense I never play, like 4 Workshops I'll never use, or Imperial Seal that I think I ran in a tournament once, but I guess my kids can inherit something of worth if the market doesn't crash... |
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Eternal Formats / Blue-Based Control / Re: What's the best Vault/Key Deck?
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on: December 29, 2015, 08:39:26 am
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While I absolutely respect Shawn's position on GushBond in this kind of deck (I had plenty of loses to him/Allen/others back in the day) I don't think there is an absolute best way to approach Vault/Key at the moment. I think there are several ways to approach it that are all good/solid/winnable ways to build a list that features Vault and Key, all that have their own advantages. For the moment, I will not mention Oath, because that is really a wholly different archetype with all kinds of different reasoning for different approaches. With all due respect to Shawn and Andy (who are both better players than me and also more experienced in the current meta) I'd like to explain some of my thinking.
While GushBond is probably ideal in a vacuum, that is, it is the one that would absolutely goldfish best, merited on it's lower land count, ability to see more cards (via Gush/more cantrips), but there are merits to more lands/less cantrips, since more mana can often open up lines of play (like larger Yawg Wills, or playing something like Tezzeret 1.0). There is also a general softness of this approach to Red Blast/Pyroblast and Flusterstorm, along with the aforementioned Notion Thief.
This is not to say that the approach is not good, or well positioned right now, because I have little doubt that it is, but there are other approaches that can be taken. Obviously, Grixis Control has been around forever and Red certainly gives you a good selection of great cards including (but obviously not limited to) Dack Fayden, Lightning Bolt, Red Blasts, Ingot Chewers, etc.. The higher land (mana) count (22-23) these decks have can be advantageous in being able to play through soft permission (like Flusterstorm), Wastelands, and small numbers of Sphere effects. However, as was alluded to, there are other colors to be played.
While White gives you access to premier removal in the form of Swords to Plowshares, there isn't much else that is really a great addition to a Combo-Control approach. I think the 'undiscovered' approach is really Green, which gives you access to what I feel is a criminally underplayed card right now, Abrupt Decay.
Reasons for why people were moving away from Vault/Key were once given as Dack Fayden, Null Rod, Delvers then Mentors, then both Delvers and Mentors. Really, the biggest threat I found was Abrupt Decay, yet, now no one wants to play Abrupt Decay. What do all those above things have in common? They are all hit by Decay. Green also gives you access to Trygon Preadator, which Shop decks don't seem to be running much by way of answers to right now.
In the days before Khans was released (and I literally mean a few days before) I had written a pretty long primer on Dark Confidant-Jace combo-control decks. Everyone insisted that Confidant was not playable any more and I bought in. Once Mentor came, the death of Confidant was seemly cemented and I gave up on updating it, which also coincided with me have less time to test. I frankly still feel that Confidant is still playable and my limited results haven't disproven this, but it could certainly just be a general delusion I carry.
I probably didn't really express myself too clearly here, but hopefully I managed to convey at least some of what I was trying to.
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Eternal Formats / Global Vintage Tournament Reports and Results / Re: Eudemonia, Berkeley, Top 8 Results, November 15, 2015
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on: December 28, 2015, 07:43:00 am
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I wish the guys who own/run this shop would breath some life back into MOTL: http://forums.magictraders.com/Ultimate.cgi?action=intro&BypassCookie=trueAnyway, thanks for the post. Pre last b/r I was on omni oath and UR the answer..both hurt by b/r losing 3 dtt and losing 3 chalice respectively. dunno what to build. i want to run time vault but doesn't seem to be doing well in a sea of mentor  I built grixis therapy but not excited about it currently. Since I live on the other side of nowhere, I don't really get to play often or really test, but I still think that Time Vault is fine in the current meta, it's just that no one wants to play it. My personal feeling though is that playing fair versus Mentor is just asking to lose. Then again, I am a person who thinks Dark Confidant is still playable. If you want my list, just message me (no sense muddying up this thread). I think it has legs (and I've had limited success with it versus the post-DDT meta), but YRMV. |
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Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: New card-draw land
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on: December 16, 2015, 08:40:33 am
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I just noticed that you can exile multiple cards with Ice Cauldron, you can play those cards even without activating the Cauldron's second ability, and that if the Cauldron leaves play that does *not* stop you from later playing any spells previously exiled. This makes the Cauldron a lot more interesting than I thought. You can stash away some gas before playing a draw 7, or use a LED to pay for a spell in your hand. You can hide countermagic in the Cauldron where it is completely safe from Cabal Therapy et al. Or use it for its intended purpose and cast Emrakul with two easy payments of 7.5 mana. EDIT: And I just realized the Cauldron synergizes quite well with Voltaic Key, allowing you to e.g. spend X mana on your opponent's EOT to get 2X free mana during your main phase. None of this is worth  , granted, but it's still a lot more interesting than I thought. I am fairly certain this is not how Ice Cauldron works, because you remove the charge counter as a cost when you tap it to get the mana. Unless I am misunderstanding something, this means that untapping it will not help you get "free" mana. All Ice Cauldron can do is basically spread the mana cost of something over two turns. |
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Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Shrinking Vintage in Southern US (mainly TX)
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on: October 26, 2015, 07:23:01 pm
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After downgrading vintage to monthly and increasing the allowed proxies from 15 to 20, two people showed up yesterday.
I'd like to think it's maybe because local sports ball team was playing during the tournament but our legacy crowd has been doing pretty poorly as well :/
I have to apologize, real-life has been kicking my ass lately, not much time for Magic in general. I haven't been successful in really drumming up local interest. The few times I've been able to make it to Legacy though we're struggling to get 8, where we used to average about 15. It's a bad time here economically, I think several people have sold their stuff. Hopefully things turn around soon, if we can start drawing for Legacy, there is a chance to draw some in to Vintage. |
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Eternal Formats / Global Vintage Tournament Reports and Results / Re: MagicCardMarket Series - Prague - October 18, 2015
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on: October 20, 2015, 05:09:27 am
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I was there and played both the main event on Friday (3:3) as well as the Trial on Sunday (for byes for the next Mainevent - losing in Top 4 after being first after the swiss rounds with 4:1), both events on URw Delver.
From scouting the field between rounds both days, it seemed to me that at least 50% of the field were either a Gush Variant (either Delver or Mentor based) or a 4 Tfk deck, mostly in Grixis shells. On Friday I saw some workshops, on Sunday there was only 1 Workshop Deck (my only loss in the swiss rounds).
Little Oath, close to no Dredge, little Bomberman, some Doomsday, close to no TPS, but at least one Belcher.
Interesting, so the main event here was actually October 16th? |
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Eternal Formats / Global Vintage Tournament Reports and Results / MagicCardMarket Series - Prague - October 16, 2015
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on: October 19, 2015, 03:58:36 pm
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MagicCardMarket Series - Prague - October 16, 2015 52 Players Results Page. I have nothing to do with MagicCardMarket, I was not at the event and have no more information, I simply reformatted the results and posted them. 1st - Mikael Linden - Oaelcher3x Misty Rainforest 3x Polluted Delta 2x Tropical Island 2x Underground Sea 1x Bayou 4x Forbidden Orchard 1x Mox Sapphire 1x Mox Jet 1x Mox Emerald 1x Mox PEARL 1x Mox Ruby 1x Sol Ring 1x Mana Crypt 1x Black Lotus 3x Emrakul, The Aeons Torn 1x Blightsteel Colossus 1x Ancestral Recall 1x Brainstorm 4x Mental Misstep 4x Force of Will 1x Flusterstorm 2x Thirst for Knowledge 1x Mystical Tutor 1x Misdirection 1x Vampiric Tutor 1x Demonic Consultation 2x Spell Pierce 1x Time Walk 1x Preordain 1x Channel 2x Show and Tell 1x Demonic Tutor 2x Thoughtseize 1x Tinker 1x Dragon Breath 4x Oath of Druids Sideboard2x Ancient Tomb 1x Pithing Needle 1x Flusterstorm 3x Nature's Claim 3x Abrupt Decay 1x Ravenous Trap 4x Leyline of the Void 2nd - Rubén González - Black Mentor1x Library of Alexandria 2x Underground Sea 3x Tundra 4x Flooded Strand 1x Polluted Delta 1x Misty Rainforest 1x Scalding Tarn 3x Island 1x Black Lotus 1x Mox Jet 1x Mox Sapphire 1x Mox PEARL 1x Mana Crypt 1x Sol Ring 3x Monastery Mentor 3x Repeal 4x Gush 1x Brainstorm 1x Ancestral Recall 1x Dig Through Time 3x Mental Misstep 2x Mana Drain 2x Mindbreak Trap 4x Force of Will 1x Vampiric Tutor 4x Preordain 1x Time Walk 1x Treasure Cruise 1x Demonic Tutor 1x Yawgmoth's Will 4x Mystic Remora 1x Jace, the Mind Sculptor Sideboard1x Plains 1x Hurkyl's Recall 2x Flusterstorm 2x Stony Silence 2x Disenchant 2x Containment Priest 2x Kataki, War's Wage 3x Swords to Plowshares 3rd-4th Tomas Morla Lopez - Mud4x Mishra's Workshop 4x Ancient Tomb 4x Mishra's Factory 4x Wasteland 1x Strip Mine 1x Tolarian Academy 1x Homeward Path 1x Black Lotus 1x Mox Jet 1x Mox Ruby 1x Mox PEARL 1x Mox Emerald 1x Mox Sapphire 1x Sol Ring 1x Mana Crypt 4x Sphere of Resistance 4x Thorn of Amethyst 4x Tangle Wire 1x Chalice of the Void 1x Trinisphere 3x Null Rod 2x Crucible of Worlds 4x Phyrexian Revoker 2x Wurmcoil Engine 4x Lodestone Golem 2x Phyrexian Metamorph Sideboard3x Relic of Progenitus 4x Grafdigger's Cage 2x Witchbane Orb 2x Duplicant 1x The Tabernacle At Pendrell Vale 2x Dismember 1x Null Rod 3rd-4th - Marc Invernizzi - Four Crowns2x Flooded Strand 3x Polluted Delta 4x Volcanic Island 2x Steam Vents 1x Island 4x Mishra's Factory 2x Faerie Conclave 1x Library of Alexandria 4x Wasteland 1x Strip Mine 1x Crucible of Worlds 4x Null Rod 1x Keranos, God Of Storms 4x Force of Will 4x Mental Misstep 3x Mana Drain 3x Spell Pierce 1x Flusterstorm 1x Mindbreak Trap 1x Brainstorm 1x Dig Through Time 4x Lightning Bolt 1x Treasure Cruise 4x Standstill 1x Dack Fayden 2x Jace, the Mind Sculptor Sideboard3x Pyroclasm 3x Energy Flux 3x Ingot Chewer 4x Grafdigger's Cage 2x Ravenous Trap 4th-8th - Jacob Sellman - Hatebears4x Windswept Heath 4x Wasteland 2x Ghost Quarter 4x Savannah 1x Karakas 2x Plains 1x Strip Mine 1x Chalice of the Void 1x Mana Crypt 4x Null Rod 1x Lotus Petal 4x Leonin Relic-Warder 4x Elvish Spirit Guide 4x Leonin Arbiter 4x Spirit Of The Labyrinth 4x Thalia, Guardian Of Thraben 3x Kataki, War's Wage 2x Qasali Pridemage 2x Containment Priest 2x Nature's Claim 4x Mental Misstep 2x Swords to Plowshares Sideboard2x Rest In Peace 1x Grafdigger's Cage 1x Gaddock Teeg 1x Maze of Ith 2x Swords to Plowshares 2x Nature's Claim 1x Ethersworn Canonist 2x Containment Priest 1x Pithing Needle 2x Phyrexian Revoker 4th - 8th - Miquel Alcoriza - Bomberman1x Library of Alexandria 2x Cavern of Souls 1x Tolarian Academy 2x Polluted Delta 3x Tundra 2x Island 4x Flooded Strand 1x Underground Sea 1x Aether Spellbomb 1x Engineered Explosives 1x Grafdigger's Cage 1x Pithing Needle 2x Sensei's Diving Top 1x Black Lotus 1x Mox Jet 1x Mox Sapphire 1x Mox PEARL 1x Mox Ruby 1x Mox Emerald 1x Mana Crypt 1x Sol Ring 2x Auriok Salvagers 4x Trinket Mage 1x Ancestral Recall 4x Thirst for Knowledge 4x Force of Will 3x Mana Drain 4x Mental Misstep 2x Flusterstorm 2x Mindbreak Trap 1x Brainstorm 1x Dig Through Time 1x Time Walk 1x Jace, the Mind Sculptor Sideboard2x Disenchant 2x Serenity 2x Steel Sabotage 2x Swords to Plowshares 1x Tormod's Crypt 1x Plains 1x Monastery Mentor 2x Supreme Verdict 2x Notion Thief 4th-8th - Marcel Kaschapow - Mud4x Mishra's Workshop 4x Mishra's Factory 4x Ancient Tomb 4x Wasteland 1x Tolarian Academy 1x Strip Mine 4x Thorn of Amethyst 4x Sphere of Resistance 1x Trinisphere 1x Chalice of the Void 4x Tangle Wire 1x Sol Ring 1x Mox Ruby 1x Mox Emerald 1x Mox Sapphire 1x Mox PEARL 1x Mox Jet 1x Black Lotus 1x Mana Crypt 1x Batterskull 1x Triskelion 4x Phyrexian Revoker 4x Arcbound Ravager 4x Lodestone Golem 3x Catacomb Sifter (???) (Maybe Hangerback Walker?) 3x Phyrexian Metamorph Sideboard4x Grafdigger's Cage 3x Tormod's Crypt 2x Batterskull 3x Ghost Quarter 2x Dismember 1x Catacomb Sifter (???) 4th-8th - Sergi Hernandez - Mentor3x Flooded Strand 2x Island 1x Library of Alexandria 4x Scalding Tarn 3x Tundra 3x Volcanic Island 1x Black Lotus 1x Mana Crypt 1x Mox Emerald 1x Mox Sapphire 1x Mox Ruby 1x Mox PEARL 1x Mox Jet 1x Sensei's Diving Top 1x Sol Ring 3x Monastery Mentor 2x Swords to Plowshares 4x Mental Misstep 1x Ancestral Recall 1x Brainstorm 1x Flusterstorm 3x Gush 4x Force of Will 1x Misdirection 1x Dig Through Time 2x Pyroblast 1x PONDER 4x Preordain 1x Time Walk 1x Treasure Cruise 2x Jace, the Mind Sculptor 3x Dack Fayden Sideboard2x Ghostly Prison 1x Echoing Truth 1x Mountain 4x Ingot Chewer 2x Disenchant 2x Containment Priest 1x Engineered Explosives 1x Flusterstorm 1x Surgical Extraction |
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Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Windows 7?
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on: October 07, 2015, 12:29:44 pm
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Thanks for your reply,
Im only technical enough to type error messages and questions into Google. That method is not working for me this time because of all the misleading junk from people who are trying to harm me and my computer. I haven't tried piratebay; its hard to know whats a scam and what isnt.
I discovered that you can download from MS, but you need a product key to even get to the point of download. Im beginning to think that the only option is to purchase from Wal Mart for about $200.
If you want to go the legit route, I don't see why you need a retail copy, that's just wasted money. NewEgg has OEM copies for $139.99. I'll get back to you on other options, I'm at work now. |
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