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1  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: [SOI] Asylum Visitor on: March 19, 2016, 10:37:37 pm


I fear this may not receive the credit it deserves...
2  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Commemorative Playmat For The N.Y.S.E. Open IV on: March 18, 2016, 12:57:03 pm
I live outside of the US, but I would like to buy one, if possible.

I've shipped playmats overseas to Europe, South America, Asia, and Australia. I have yet to have any problems, so I'm sure we'll be able to make it happen when I print them up. Smile

Thanks for your interest.
3  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Commemorative Playmat For The N.Y.S.E. Open IV on: March 17, 2016, 10:53:20 am
I believe it was $40 for last years mat. Well worth it though. I've had people walk past my match, stop, turn around and interrupt my match to comment on how sweet last years mat is.

Thank you, Rikter. I appreciate the kind words.

Yes, on site, the playmats have been $40 in the past and will continue to be for this year. I think that is a very fair price due to the amount of work I put into them alongside the cost of having them printed and shipped to me.

I might ask for a little more for shipped pre-orders, but a Vintage enthusiast can certainly expect to pay $40 at the event.
4  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Commemorative Playmat For The N.Y.S.E. Open IV on: March 14, 2016, 02:10:05 pm
It's that time of year again, folks!



Last year, I asked TMD to help me figure out an appropriate amount of my illustrated N.Y.S.E. III playmats to print. Unlike the year before that, I printed what seemed to be a nearly exact amount of playmats necessary to meet the demand. Please, if you wouldn't mind, help me gauge the correct amount to print for this upcoming event, as well. If you'd like a playmat but won't be able to physically attend the event, then I'd be happy to mail one to you. I shipped a dozen or so last year without any issues.

Thank you for the continued support, everybody. I have a lot of fun creating these images and it makes me happy to know that my fellow Vintage players appreciate my work.

I'm looking forward to seeing you all at the greatest unsanctioned Vintage event of the year. Smile
5  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: [SOI] Thing In The Ice on: March 07, 2016, 12:23:24 pm
I'm really surprised at how powerful this card seems at first glance. Even if it transformed into a 4/4 or something, it would be pretty darn good. Where the heck did 7/8 come from?

This card definitely seems like it'd have a place somewhere in Vintage; I'd be really surprised if people didn't at least try it out.

With that said, what's with the names of these new cards? Thing In The Ice? Brain In A Jar? Clip Wings? Shard of Broken Glass? Shamble Back? I'm not a fan.

What I don't get is why Wizards decided Blue needs to be the color of undercosted monsters with easy-to-satisfy conditions.  (Delver, Ensoul, this thing).

I agree. This effect would've been interesting and obviously more diverse if it were in red or green.
6  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: Eternal Masters CONFIRMED on: February 26, 2016, 11:10:11 pm
But in all honesty, I wouldn't play this game if the cards weren't rare.  They say Rome wasn't built in a day.  I've been building my Magic card collection for 22 years.  I'm sorry that someone who just discovers the game feels like they can't buy 40 dual lands and a set of power 9 out of the gate.  Money is not the only component in having a magic collection, time is.  TIME.  There is no short cutting time.

While I have a lot of thoughts on the variety of important topics presented in this thread, I wasn't sure if I was going to ultimately be able to organize my thoughts and meaningfully contribute to the thread. After having read this specific opinion of yours, gkraigher, I decided to chime in. I feel that your statement is very shortsighted, especially in 2016. Money, to me, is unquestionably the only component involved in assembling a Magic card collection. I mean, sure, time plays some role: a busy person might need a month to find the time to round up every card they need instead of a week, but that's about as far as "time" goes these days. If I were forced to come up with a second component involved in Magic outside of "money," I suppose I'd offer that "connections" and "contacts" are also somewhat important, but that all really pales in comparison to the financial aspect of Magic in 2016. For everybody's amusement, I've included a few Cardboard Crack snippets that really capture a lot of important issues going on with Magic right now.



You have put a lot of emphasis on time, gkraigher, but I don't know why. Everything is readily available now. Cards aren't "rare." There is no hunt anymore. Time doesn't need to be a factor; it's a factor due to compromise. In 2016, the Internet instantaneously provides people with a way to purchase every card they need to play. In fact, the only time-consuming activity these days is hunting for a bargain, which, of course, relates back to the dominating financial aspect. I can go on eBay and buy everything from a full set of Alpha power to Oath of the Gatewatch basic lands. It's all there I just have to decide if I can afford it.



Let me take a moment to agree with you, though: Time IS a huge factor in 2016, but only because of the money aspect. Therefore, I would say that the main culprit is money and finance; everything else stems from it. Time only leads to cards becoming more expensive. Why wait to buy that Mishra's Workshop? Unless things dramatically change, the card is only going to become more expensive as time goes on. The best time to act is now, unless you don't have access to the ludicrous and unfair prices that cards command now. Magic is big bucks now. Null Rod, thanks to the community, has now been added to a list of cards that a newcomer with modest funds won't even consider acquiring. People (outside of the very wealthy) are being priced out from participating.

Back in 1999 and 2000, I was 12 and 13 years old. I wasn't able to use the Internet to buy Magic cards. I also didn't really know many people who played Magic outside of the 30-40 locals who frequented the two stores in my general vicinity. Back then, your emphasis on time was certainly appropriate. Even if I had saved enough money for a card, it might take a while to logistically acquire it. Back then, it sometimes took me weeks to track down the cards I needed. Mark's Comics didn't always have cards like Rishadan Port and Tangle Wire in stock. I couldn't easily travel to nominal stores like Neutral Ground. If locals weren't trading the cards I needed, how could I acquire them? It took a lot of dedication. Looking back, the hunt and journey to find a card to play with was something fun at the time, though I'm glad I don't have to partake in it now.



Forming a Magic collection is sadly all about money. I'd say that this is inarguable. If I have the financial means, what's to stop me from going on easily accessible websites, such as StarCityGames or eBay, and just buying everything I need? Why wait? The only answer would be pausing to consider my finances. It might take a few moments of research, but I could theoretically purchase 40 Revised dual lands right now. Heck, I could purchase 40 Beta dual lands (if I had the financial means) in one afternoon's worth of clicking. It's all there. It's all accessible. What "time" aspect is involved nowadays? 2016 isn't 1998. It's easy now. Magic is all about money. From comments like "I only draft sets with money cards" to "Modern is way too expensive to play," it's just about all anybody talks about. I've even seen players bragging about getting a $5 card for $3. Finance has simply become the accepted and expected culture of this game; I'm unfortunately guilty of it, too. (This concept is actually something that drove me away from the game for a good portion of 2015. The stress and fear mongering of Magic finance really takes away from my enjoyment of the game.)

If we're talking about commodities such as original art, misprints, sealed product, and artist proofs, then sure, the time aspect and the "hunt" of it all is something very real, but we're not. Nobody here is talking about that. We're talking about acquiring just the bare necessities to play the game. In general, this forum (as a whole) isn't concerned with pimping and collecting; strategy and game enjoyment trumps aesthetics, pimping, and finance. An Alpha Underground Sea is a cool, special, and "elite" thing. In my eyes, the lowest rank of Underground Sea on the figurative "food chain of pimping" shouldn't cost $1,000 per playset. I made a big statement about this over two years ago. Look at how things have spiraled out of control since January 2014. I'm not saying that everybody should have the ability to own every card instantaneously, but I don't think that looking to play Vintage should cause somebody serious financial duress and contemplation.



Higher prices don't just benefit my pocketbook, they benefit the community by naturally removing the players who don't care and who aren't fully committed to the game.

Your opinion on this really shocks me. Can you elaborate on why you feel this way?
7  Eternal Formats / Northeast U.S. / Re: [Top Deck Games] Sat, April 19th Vintage $1k! Come battle for glory! on: February 16, 2016, 04:04:24 pm
The subject says 4/19 and the post says 4/17, but that Saturday is the 16th.

Let's hope he meant the 23rd, because I can't make the 16th. Smile
8  Eternal Formats / Global Vintage Tournament Reports and Results / Re: Team Serious Birthday Invitational - 2/13/16 on: February 15, 2016, 02:51:54 pm
With no entry fee and donated prizes, we managed to put up an estimated $1200 prize pool including a box of Modern Masters, an Italian Drain, a Taiga, and 28 Simian Spirit Guides. Prizes were distributed by "drafting" piles after things were completely decided, 1-16 then 1-8 again, so everyone got something!

This looks like an incredibly cool idea, GrandpaBelcher. I've never heard of anything like this before and would love to see you elaborate on how this event was set up and what the parameters were. What sort of message was sent out to the potential entrants? What was expected of people in regards to their prize donation? I'm really shocked at the fantastic prize pool you've shared with us in that picture; what a great haul. The degree of variety is great. I'd love to see the order of draft selections! I'd be interested in trying to arrange something like this with some New York locals sometime.

I've said it before, but I've always liked the idea of more entrants receiving prizes instead of just the winningest few. I realize that not every tournament could or should be run that way, but it's definitely a nice treat every once in a while. It's nice to walk away with something after a modest but decent showing. An FBB Regrowth may only be around $5, but it's something fun to leave an event with after finishing with a record of 4-2 or something. Smile

It looks like a fun concept. Thank you for sharing it with us.
9  Eternal Formats / Global Vintage Tournament Reports and Results / Re: Finals Split at TPG on LANDSTILL OATH 12/5/15 on: December 07, 2015, 10:05:23 am
Nice work, Josh. That's a really cool list. Smile

I'd thought of an idea similar to this last year but never sleeved it up. Standstill in conjunction with Forbidden Orchard ultimately seemed like a rough concept to me. How was it? Were there any moments when this worked against you? Did the Orchard tokens ever provide a tough land-battle for your man-lands? What made you choose a Toxic Deluge for the maindeck over something like Engineered Explosives? I'd love to hear more about it. Smile
10  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: The Force Awakens on: November 07, 2015, 05:23:19 pm
On the subject of design, Kylo Ren looks like crap. His mask looks like the face of the snitch from Mos Eisley--not flattering!

I'm so glad that I'm not the only person who noticed that.
11  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: Complex Eldrazi cards hard to evaluate on: September 10, 2015, 11:47:44 am
Void Winnower is absurdly fascinating.

For an Oath of Druids deck, this Eldrazi organically achieves something that few other "creature targets" do. Void Winnower can't be bounced by Karakas and naturally prevents itself from being hit by Phyrexian Metamorph, Duplicant, Sower of Temptation, and Phantasmal Image. I suppose that the elite untargetability of Progenitus is somewhat comparable, though Progenitus can still be cloned (but obviously not blocked). Void Winnower differs from Progenitus by having the benefit of affecting an opponent's strategy after it has hit the battlefield as opposed to just being a monstrous beater. Void Winnower is also moderately easier to hard-cast.

Void Winnower prevents a few critical cards from being cast, such as Dread Return; Tendrils of Agony; Lodestone Golem; Jace, the Mind Sculptor; Hangarback Walker; Time Walk; Demonic Tutor; Time Vault; Yawgmoth's Bargain; Abrupt Decay; and even the lowly Stingscourger. Would it also shut down Treasure Cruise and Dig Through Time?

Vintage playable, though? I'm not sure about that just yet, but it's definitely worth considering for a of the few reasons I listed above. What a unique design.
12  Eternal Formats / Northeast U.S. / Re: N.Y.S.E. Open III - Power Eight, Workshops & Bazaars Tournament - 6/26 - 6/28 on: June 19, 2015, 08:34:31 pm
This year's playmats are in! Here's a picture of one of them next to the old one:



Over the past week, I have received several private messages regarding this year's official N.Y.S.E. Open playmats, though I am only seeing a lot of them for the first time today. If you plan on attending the event and physically picking one up the day of the event, you don't need to reach out to me to reserve one or pay in advance. I printed quite a bit more this time around, so it shouldn't be as big of an issue as it was last year, though they are still somewhat limited. If you want one, I encourage you to purchase one as soon as possible. Please don't wait until the end of the day to pick one up, as I can't guarantee that there will still be any left.

I will also have a very limited final stock of last year's playmat, as well. I realize that I did not print nearly enough of these and several people were saddened at not being able to acquire one. I'm hoping to correct that this year.

If you are unable to physically attend the event, but would like to purchase either playmat, please reach out to me to let me know this so we can arrange something. Smile

See you all at the party! Smile
13  Eternal Formats / Blue-Based Control / Re: Rich Shay's Fenton Oath on: May 07, 2015, 07:16:25 pm
Lastly, dig is absurd, and 1 copy is just not enough.

I played the build to a Top2 in the LCV March edition and DTT is the worst card in the deck by far. I sided it out all the time.

Isn't it interesting how two different players, both having actually piloted the deck, are having completely inverse yet authoritative conclusions about the same card?

I wholeheartedly agree with both of them, by the way. Smile

The list that I gave Rich Shay was one very specific iteration that I used in the Eternal Extravaganza event. That specific list had evolved from the previous event that I played in a week or two earlier at Top Deck Games. After Eternal Extravaganza, I altered a few miniature details in the deck for an event at Mark's Comics a week or two later. In the most recent event that I've played in, at Top Deck Games, the list was, again, slightly different. All four decklists differed to some small degree based on experiences and notions that I had. None of them were "correct" and none of them were "incorrect." Some of the decklists during this time had exactly one copy of Dig Through Time, while some had more than one copy, and others had zero.

The decklist posted above is a (very arbitrary) snapshot of an evolving idea. It's a small excerpt of an on-going exploration to learn more about the archetype. It's not permanently definitive. No list is.

Regarding Time Vault and Voltaic Key: I've made strong arguments as to why these two cards should not be in an Oath of Druids deck, showcased in the decklist that I gave Mark Tocco for his incredible Vintage Champs victory. I've also made strong arguments as to why these two cards absolutely should be in an Oath of Druids deck. Diversity is fun! There are positives and negatives for both including and omitting the "infinite turn" duo, which is true for any card, such as Dig Through Time. I would strongly encourage people to come to their own conclusions.
14  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Commemorative Playmat For The N.Y.S.E. Open III on: April 08, 2015, 02:42:30 pm
Greg, wehn are you going to let us know to throw money at you? Smile

Fairly soon! I'm about to look into getting these printed up for the event in the coming days. Smile

If you would like to order a playmat but will not be at the event in June, please private message me. Let me know how many you'd like to order along with your email address.

I will reach out to everybody later in the month with more details. Thanks, everyone!
15  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Commemorative Playmat For The N.Y.S.E. Open III on: March 27, 2015, 01:22:32 pm
Thank you to everybody that has voted.

I'm still hoping to get some more feedback on this. If you're reading this thread, I'd really appreciate it if you would vote for the choice most accurate to you. Smile
16  Eternal Formats / Northeast U.S. / Re: Vintage. Arabian Nights edition. Richmond Comix, Midlothian VA, 5/23/15 on: March 24, 2015, 10:39:12 pm
This sounds like an awesome tournament. Definitely a fun idea for prize support!

I hope you have a successful turnout. I'd love to be able to come down for something like this, but it's just too long of a trip from Long Island.
17  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Commemorative Playmat For The N.Y.S.E. Open III on: March 18, 2015, 11:42:23 pm
Hey there, everybody!

I'm going to mirror Will's dice thread in order to try and gauge interest on my illustrated playmat for this upcoming N.Y.S.E. Open event. This is a rough mock-up of what it will look like when it's eventually printed:



Last year, I had around 30 playmats printed and sold out of them almost immediately. Several N.Y.S.E. Open participants were upset that they missed out on a chance to purchase one. I felt bad, but I had no good data to determine how many to print and didn't anticipate selling out so quickly. I didn't consider making a thread beforehand.

This poll will help me figure out an appropriate amount of playmats to bring to the event. Similarly, if you are interested in a playmat but aren't going to be able to attend the event, I will be happy to save one for you and mail it to you. Smile

Here's a photograph of last year's printed playmat:



Thanks for participating!
18  Eternal Formats / Northeast U.S. / Re: [Top Deck Games] - May Vintage $1000 Tournament - 5/2! on: March 17, 2015, 02:48:22 pm
Yay! Now I can make it! Smile
19  Eternal Formats / Global Vintage Tournament Reports and Results / Re: Eternal Extravaganza TO Report on: March 17, 2015, 12:23:49 am
This was an incredibly fun event, Calvin. Thank you for organizing it.

I'm really looking forward to the next installment.
20  Eternal Formats / Global Vintage Tournament Reports and Results / Re: Top 4 Split with Mentor at Eternal Extravaganza 2 on: March 17, 2015, 12:20:21 am
Excellent report! Congratulations on a great run, Brian.

It was fun hanging out with you throughout the day. Smile
21  Eternal Formats / Northeast U.S. / Re: Northeast U.S. - Vintage at Undiscovered Realm - Hartsdale, New York on: March 17, 2015, 12:11:42 am
Thank you for the feedback, everybody! It appears that we may try and run an unsanctioned Vintage tournament at some point in April. Smile

Am I to assume that Saturday events are likely preferred over Sunday events?
22  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: DTK Ruthless deathfang on: March 13, 2015, 10:29:12 am
I can think of a 4/7 I'd rather reanimate against a board of monks/elementals. I don't see Deathfang finding a home here.

Me too!

Me three!

23  Eternal Formats / Northeast U.S. / Re: [Top Deck Games] February Vintage $1000 Event - 2/28 on: March 08, 2015, 12:17:54 am
I have never seen a faster split in my life than when the Oath mirror went to the finals.

24  Eternal Formats / Northeast U.S. / Re: Northeast U.S. - Vintage at Undiscovered Realm - Hartsdale, New York on: February 17, 2015, 03:27:21 pm
I'm sorry if this comes across as rude, but I wanted to explain why I made the choice that I did in the poll.

No, not at all, Will. I greatly appreciate reading your explanation. Thank you.

I'm hoping more TMD users will notice this thread and submit a vote. If you have friends that use this forum, please pass on the word to them.

Let's get some more feedback and see if attending some quality Vintage tournaments at Undiscovered Realm is a possibility. Smile
25  Eternal Formats / Northeast U.S. / Northeast U.S. - Vintage at Undiscovered Realm - Hartsdale, New York on: February 15, 2015, 11:52:27 pm
Hi there, everybody!

I wanted to post this in the Northeast U.S. sub-forum, but TMD does not allow for polls to accompany threads there. I apologize if you live elsewhere and this thread has no relevance to you. With that being said...

Have you ever been to Undiscovered Realm? It's a really nice gaming store in Hartsdale, New York. They ran a few Vintage tournaments in 2013 and 2014 that averaged roughly 18-20 entrants. The events were well-run and offered good prize support. The store is clean, well-stocked, and has respectful and helpful employees. Parking wasn't an issue and, if I remember correctly, there were several decent places to order food from nearby.

I was always surprised that their events didn't have more attendance, as Hartsdale seemed like a good central location for a lot of the "local" Vintage crowd of the NY/NJ/PA/CT/MA areas. Several announcements were made on TMD, but the events never really exceeded 24 or 25 entrants. I'm going to try and spread the word one more time.

I was chatting with a friend about how we'd love to see the occasional Vintage tournament return to Undiscovered Realm. I wrote out to the owners and they would also like to run some more. My question to the Northeast U.S. contingent of TMD is... would you attend one if you could? I'd really like to gauge the potential interest from people around our neck of the woods.

I should note that, moving forward, Undiscovered Realm has agreed to honor the DCI banned player list, and will only allow eligible players to participate in their unsanctioned Vintage events.

Here are some pictures of the store:





I'd love to see Undiscovered Realm become a place that could bridge the large gap between the awesome Pennsylvania and Massachusetts Vintage communities. Seeing both communities together was a really nice aspect of Ray's recent TMD Open 16.
26  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: I just bought some Force of Wills now let me vent on: February 05, 2015, 10:54:51 am
Is this where we all dream of the fantasy alternative universe that should have been? The world where power hung on long enough to make it into Revised and dual lands quietly snuck into Fourth Edition?

If this actually happened, Vintage would be what Legacy is today, and Legacy would be the biggest thing since Elvis.
27  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: I just bought some Force of Wills now let me vent on: February 02, 2015, 12:03:29 am
Believe me, the Vintage community collectively feels your pain as we all move forward in this age of obscene card pricing.

I think you might enjoy looking at an old thread of mine from almost exactly a year ago. The thread ended up getting locked, but it still poses an interesting question that is frequently on my mind with each new tournament that I attend.

Congratulations on your new Force of Will playset, either way. I'm confident that you will enjoy sleeving them up and playing with them again after so many years I know that I did when I returned to the game in 2009. The fun of playing Vintage will hopefully greatly outweigh the cost of your new cards. In fact, you might look back in one year's time and be delightfully surprised at the "amazing deal" that you got. Welcome back. Smile
28  Eternal Formats / Blue-Based Control / Re: Mentor's Gifts on: January 27, 2015, 03:34:14 pm
Very cool concept!

Not fitting a singleton Thirst For Knowledge into this type of deck can't be right, though.
29  Eternal Formats / Northeast U.S. / Re: [Top Deck Games] Vintage $1000 Event - Saturday, Jan 24th on: January 23, 2015, 07:12:25 pm
I can't make it either, sad to say. Sad

Safe travels, everyone!
30  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: [FRG] - Humble Defector on: January 06, 2015, 10:52:52 pm
Isnt there a card that gives ALL players shroud? Then you never have to pass him as you cant target your opponent? just brainstorming here.
I don't think that card exists. But if it did and you played it, you would not be able to activate Humble Defector.

Are you sure about that, psly4mne?

When an opponent has a Leyline of Sanctity or Witchbane Orb in play, a tapped Forbidden Orchard will still provide mana, but without creating tokens for your opponent. I'm certainly not the person to go to for deep comprehension of the rules, but this, to me, seems like a similar situation.
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