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1  Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / Re: [deck] Arcane Control on: August 08, 2005, 06:10:57 pm
Ire of Kaminari is a pretty good finisher. I've been testing an arcane based deck for casual play that uses dampen thought to splice and mill your own cards into the yard. Once you get a decent splice engine down with that, it's not too hard to finish the game with an Ire. My build is obviously going to look very different. But I think replacing the Unspeakable and maybe 1 Kodama's Reach with 2 Ire of Kaminari will drastically change the time is takes you to win games.

I concur. Since you're not running Hana Kami, your graveyard is liable to fill up with arcane spells. I have found that Ire of Kaminari is a very reliable way to deal 5+ damage under such circumstances. Although red seldom lacks for late-game finishers, since it has access to Blaze and Fireball!

So here we are after I rebuilt the Ire Deck.
So you all seemed right on:

i.e.
Cranial Extraction ----- > Ire

How do I win?
Well I won a few times against the following:

White Weenie x 12
Black Hand x 13

With out the rebuild, mainly through decking the opponent.
Or
By direct damage with lava spike and glacial ray.  This lead to frustrated opponents.

So after I lost to the following:

Mono Blue x 15
Blu Tron x 20
Tooth x 12
Gifts x 9

I rebuilt the deck please see below:

4 x Ire of Kamiari
4 x Desperate Ritual
4 x Glacial Ray
4 x Ideas Unbound
4 x Peer Thru the Depths
2 x Murmurs From Beyond
2 x Eerie Procession
1 x Umzewas Jitte
1 x Generals Kabuto
1 x Tatsuma, The Dragons Fang
4 x Manriki – Ugarwri
3 x Godo, the Bandit Warlord
2 x Sashikma, the Imposter
2 x Shard Phoniex
1 x Shivan Reef
2 x Quicksand
10 x Mountain
9 x Island

This build has been even more successful.  I can handle the mono green madness, and gifts decks or tron decks.

Actually this deck can thrash white and black weenie hordes. (Which it has been doing)!!!!
Hint = Shard Phoneix

Mono Blu will always be a little problem --- > Counter Magic
Tooth --- > have started to win Shashikma copies darksteel colossus, kiki jikis, or anything can swing for the win
Gifts --- >The bane of this deck cranial extraction is in this deck in mulitiples --- > So when the opponent CE = Ire thinking they have stripped me of the win I surprise them with the godo .. generals kabuto .. etc
Blu Tron (very popular) --- > Sashikma helps copy, Manriki – Ugarwri too destroy pesky equipment like the jitte or swords,

Overall the rebuild is fun and people enjoy playing against the deck.

Anyway! I took the floors advice and rebuilt.
Please go ahead and try it.
Tell me more.

-Random-
2  Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / Re: A thought starter for something different on: August 08, 2005, 06:08:59 pm
 :DO
So here we are after I rebuilt the Ire Deck.
So you all seemed right on:

i.e.
Cranial Extraction ----- > Ire

How do I win?
Well I won a few times against the following:

White Weenie x 12
Black Hand x 13

With out the rebuild, mainly through decking the opponent.
Or
By direct damage with lava spike and glacial ray.  This lead to frustrated opponents.

So after I lost to the following:

Mono Blue x 15
Blu Tron x 20
Tooth x 12
Gifts x 9

I rebuilt the deck please see below:

4 x Ire of Kamiari
4 x Desperate Ritual
4 x Glacial Ray
4 x Ideas Unbound
4 x Peer Thru the Depths
2 x Murmurs From Beyond
2 x Eerie Procession
1 x Umzewas Jitte
1 x Generals Kabuto
1 x Tatsuma, The Dragons Fang
4 x Manriki – Ugarwri
3 x Godo, the Bandit Warlord
2 x Sashikma, the Imposter
2 x Shard Phoniex
1 x Shivan Reef
2 x Quicksand
10 x Mountain
9 x Island

This build has been even more successful.  I can handle the mono green madness, and gifts decks or tron decks.

Actually this deck can thrash white and black weenie hordes. (Which it has been doing)!!!!
Hint = Shard Phoneix

Mono Blu will always be a little problem --- > Counter Magic
Tooth --- > have started to win Shashikma copies darksteel colossus, kiki jikis, or anything can swing for the win
Gifts --- >The bane of this deck cranial extraction is in this deck in mulitiples --- > So when the opponent CE = Ire thinking they have stripped me of the win I surprise them with the godo .. generals kabuto .. etc
Blu Tron (very popular) --- > Sashikma helps copy, Manriki – Ugarwri too destroy pesky equipment like the jitte or swords,

Overall the rebuild is fun and people enjoy playing against the deck.

Anyway! I took the floors advice and rebuilt.
Please go ahead and try it.
Tell me more.

-Random-

3  Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / Re: [deck] Arcane Control on: July 26, 2005, 09:57:18 pm
I am a big fan of the following as finishers
Sashikma the Imposter
--> Can copy Kiki Jiki, Darksteel Colossus, Anything, then be returned to hand for BB2
Also
Shaperstealer is also an interesting choice I am running
--> Can block and destroy any creature it comes in contact with it takes on the copies power and toughness
Why Not
Kira the Great Glassspinner
--> all of a sudden talk about card advantage, it gives all your creatures a little help
- Random -
4  Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / Re: A thought starter for something different on: July 25, 2005, 09:03:17 pm
Wow I forgot the lands didnt I ----- :lol: :lol: :lol:

2 x City of Brass
10 x Island
12 x Mountain

Here we go:
a simple deck list: Hit me.....
I have had success with this list....
Tell me more:

4 x Dampen Thought
4 x Glacial Ray
4 x Lava Spike
4 x Ire of Kamiari
4 x Reach thru The Mists
4 x Ideas Unbound
4 x Evermind
2 x Murmurs from Beyond
3 x Furnace of Rath
3 x Shapestealer
2 x Sashikma the Imposter

SB

1 x Shapestealer
1 x Sire of the Storm
4 x Consuming VOrtex
2 x Murmurs From Beyond
4 x Eerie Procession
1 x Cloudhoof Kirin
2 x Eye of Nowwhere

- Random -

Ok so I put this deck together as a challenge.  I have always loved Mill Style Control & wondered what it could do to myself.
I played with the idea of reanimation tricks (na)
I have played the heck out of Traumitize during Odessey (yes 9th edition legal)
So


I made it then ran it against mono green beats meta game in my area.
(mono green is a favorite)
came in fairly well......................... .....However no as well as i wanted.
Then I test against Beacon Green craziness
Here we go:
Beacon has me down to 5 life with 15 creatures he is at 22
I have been using the glacial ray splice off reach thru to ding some creatures here and there
alsooooo
splicing on to ideas unbound and discarding every little arcane i could do.....
cut...end turn....
he draws:
plays Eternal Witness to get back (I think) Wood Elves??? anyway,
I respond with a 20 point Ire
spliced glacial ray
game
hehe
(I liked that match)
 :shock: :shock: :shock:
- Random -
5  Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / A thought starter for something different on: July 24, 2005, 10:36:49 pm
Here we go:
a simple deck list: Hit me.....
I have had success with this list....
Tell me more:

4 x Dampen Thought
4 x Glacial Ray
4 x Lava Spike
4 x Ire of Kamiari
4 x Reach thru The Mists
4 x Ideas Unbound
4 x Evermind
2 x Murmurs from Beyond
3 x Furnace of Rath
3 x Shapestealer
2 x Sashikma the Imposter

SB

1 x Shapestealer
1 x Sire of the Storm
4 x Consuming VOrtex
2 x Murmurs From Beyond
4 x Eerie Procession
1 x Cloudhoof Kirin
2 x Eye of Nowwhere

- Random -
 :lol:
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