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1  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: WUb Fish: Deck Discussion on: January 25, 2008, 04:25:38 pm
"Have fun with tapping Workshops for paying Kataki's upkeep cost".
Sorry about that, I had a minor brain fart. But the whole fact stands true with mana usage with flux vs Kataki though.
2  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: WUb Fish: Deck Discussion on: January 24, 2008, 10:15:00 pm
Kataki isn't as great as one would think. A skilled stax/workshop player can play around him. Yes, I'll give you that he is annoying, but he is not game breaking. Workshop decks have both Trike and Duplicant and stax has welder. I would suggest running Energy Flux over Kataki any given day of the weak and twice on sunday. Reason is tapping workshop to save 3 artifacts vs tapping workshop to save 1.5 artifacts. Energy Flux wins over Kataki.
3  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: Which [Budget]-Deck is the best for a unknown meta? on: January 24, 2008, 01:45:11 am
I almost top 8ed with 13 land stompy last year. The list used root maze and winter orb as well as berserk.

Oh and...
4 Gaea's Cradel (like Tolarian Academy)
1 Crop Rotation (Dark Ritual on steroids)
1 Black Lotus (Replace with Simian Spirit Guide/Mana Crypt)
1 Mox Emerald (Replace with Simian Spirit Guide)
1 Lotus Petal
1 Goblin Bombardment (Win now win condition)
3 Empty the Warrens (General win condition)
4 Emerald Charm (Untaps Cradle is thus a Dark Ritual on steroids.  This guy probably averages producing ggggg also removes Leyline of the Void)
4 Skullclamp ( Massive draw engine with rest of deck)
4 Glimpse of Nature ( Massive draw engine with all the free creatures)
12 Kobolds (Synergy with Cradle, Clamp and Glimpse)
4 Ornithopter
4 Phyrexian Walker
4 Phyrexian Maurader (free cantrip if Glimpse played.  Draws 2 for 2 mana with clamp out and with 20 mana becomes HUGE creature)
4 Summoner's Pact (Gets mana or a free creature)
4 Elvish Spirit Guide
4 Tinder Wall

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4  Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: TurboGush on: January 24, 2008, 01:32:58 am
I am curious, how does this thing do against flash game1? I can see in game two you would most likely have the situation handled. The reason I ask is against flash you would play land and possibly a spell or a moxen and say "go". Flash turns around plays island mox flash, with force/pact backup. How does this matchup go for you?
5  Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: Metagame deck on: January 24, 2008, 01:11:30 am
Personally I'd take Workshop aggro over anything else. If tuned right it can deal with most anything there.
In my build I use Duplicant (3), Stingscourger(4) and 9ballz. I have about 50% vs oath and gat. And I run Leyline sided for anything graveyard based decks. But I also agree with some of the other posts, Combo would do very well in that meta.
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