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1  Eternal Formats / Eternal Article Discussion / Re: [Free Podcast] So Many Insane Plays Podcast Episode 50: Oath of the Gatewatch on: January 26, 2016, 04:10:29 pm
Four hours? Thanks for making the work day shorter.
2  Eternal Formats / Workshop-Based Prison / Re: Shop Depths on: January 04, 2016, 06:00:31 am
If your having issues with Thopter tokens and your thinking Stax, try Ratchet Bomb. You can blow Moxen to Kingdom come too for that moment when you want to tighten the screws.
3  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: [OGW] Wastes: Barry's Land is REAL? on: December 13, 2015, 06:24:34 pm
It's a limited reprint, I doubt they are going to make it Standard legal.

Wasteland, Stripmine, Dust Bowl, Canopy... Fuck.
4  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: [OGW] Wastes: Barry's Land is REAL? on: December 12, 2015, 11:20:48 am
Alt+4=♦
5  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: [OGW] Wastes: Barry's Land is REAL? on: December 11, 2015, 09:22:43 pm
That, and Sol Ring, City of Traitors...
6  Eternal Formats / Workshop-Based Prison / Re: Shop Depths on: December 11, 2015, 02:05:14 pm
Meant to say "Appealing" but it apears my phone had other ideas.
7  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: [OGW] Wastes: Barry's Land is REAL? on: December 11, 2015, 01:31:40 pm
For the record I've conceded the bet. Congratulations Dice_box.
And has been true to his word. Thanks man.
8  Eternal Formats / Workshop-Based Prison / Re: Shop Depths on: December 11, 2015, 09:42:00 am
Not sure what you mean.  You are 2 urborgs down from the list in the OP?  From Thiims list online?  Either way, I found 4 to be best.  You often want urborg and it's a lotus petal at worst.  You want to increase your odds of drawing it as opposed to mapping for it because A) you want to spend maps on the combo lands, not Urborg, and B) you want to up your odds of turn 1 urborg -> needle (on wasteland), turn 2 depths/hexmage, for a turn 3 win, and C) you are more likely to hit plays like Workshop, map, sphere, turn 2 urborg to crack map for whichever combo land is not in hand.

Not sure how legacy lands.dec compares to shop depths.  I can only assume you run the depths combo and fewer urborgs in that.  If so, keep in mind you are likely running loam and therefore are A) multicolor, B) not running shop disruption/aggro as plan B/complementary role, and C) essentially drawing 3 cards a turn through loam dredge after turn 2, so more likely to mill urborgs with fewer in the deck.

THIS version of shop depths (from OP) really operates optimally with 4x urborg/shops/depths/stages.  

Maybe I'm just not understanding your reply.  If you can, please clarify.

**note, since the restriction of chalice, a few updates are needed.**
I mean I am two cards off having the list. I have ordered them (Wanted the old ones) and will play this out. I like Thiims list and that's the one I will start with. Likely messing around with the intention of adding in the single Not if this world... Wow. Love that idea.  

Also, cutting the Cage to the side and moving Chains into the main. Local meta. It makes me want to add a swamp over one of the Spells in the main. Also, thinking of adding a Toxic Deluge or two to the side.
9  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: [OGW] Wastes: Barry's Land is REAL? on: December 11, 2015, 09:24:23 am
https://mobile.twitter.com/TrickMTG/status/675303346681593856

I guess this means I won the bet.
10  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: [OGW] Wastes: Barry's Land is REAL? on: December 08, 2015, 09:40:06 pm
http://archive.wizards.com/Magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/mm/25
11  Eternal Formats / Workshop-Based Prison / Re: Shop Depths on: December 07, 2015, 05:49:59 am
I am two Urborg down from that online list. I am a Lands player in Legacy and that list looks appalling. I will post how it goes in my local games.
12  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: [OGW] Wastes: Barry's Land is REAL? on: December 07, 2015, 01:21:18 am


Don't know if it's real yet.
13  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: [OGW] Wastes: Barry's Land is REAL? on: November 24, 2015, 04:00:21 pm
They have 3 cards at CMC 3. A hard number to lock out. 1 and 2 they could manage though.

Anyway, we will see what happens but from my point of view, Tron is a match I don't even bother to side for (Jund) so if they get another toy I just lose faster. So what. Not that I come here to talk about Modern.
14  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: [OGW] Wastes: Barry's Land is REAL? on: November 24, 2015, 03:27:18 pm
They have a bunch of low cost cards they use to get online. But they have a concentrated spread. They could draw 4 cards, go to 7 in hand and still get Twined out with no answer.

Also, it's mostly going to take 5 lands to cast this. 10 mana is hard to reach on 4 mana.
15  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: [OGW] Wastes: Barry's Land is REAL? on: November 24, 2015, 02:38:35 pm
I would argue that Ugin is more impactful than Kozilek will be and cheaper.
16  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: [OGW] Wastes: Barry's Land is REAL? on: November 24, 2015, 10:17:32 am
From my point of view, if they are going to make a new Basic they will have to support it long term. So I don't think it will be a handful of new cards.
17  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: [OGW] Wastes: Barry's Land is REAL? on: November 23, 2015, 02:32:53 pm
You know, if it is colourless pays, that will make going back to Mirrodin interesting. I mean imagin if Lodestone was (1)DDD (D being what we are calling it on the source to interesting effect). Suddenly you can not cast it off Lotus or a pair of Moxen and a City. While that effect is not so much of a bother with a Shop in play, the effect when your trying to cast off Coloured mana (About 27% of a Shops base) would mean you could push powers while still holding back colourless cards from just slotting into Vintage Shops.
18  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: [OGW] Wastes: Barry's Land is REAL? on: November 23, 2015, 12:09:03 am
Make it interesting, public and relevant.

For instance a bunch of sealed ice age packs (Snowland side) versus Ugin and Karn liberated (<>=colorless side).
It is on. Terms agreed, 50 dollars. If it's a hoax, nothing. If Sol Ring can pay that cost I win. If not I lose.

Packs would be cool, but I live in ass end of the world, so posting things here never tends to be cheep. PayPal is so much simpler.

On the flip side. If I do lose, Cube Draft is about to become a lot more interesting.

How about $1000 cash vs eating a black lotus on live stream?  I'd like to see that.
You monster. (And my wife would never let me take that. 50 I don't need to tell her about...)
19  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: [OGW] Wastes: Barry's Land is REAL? on: November 22, 2015, 08:22:13 am
That Wastes is the basic land colorless commanders want I understand, that's a given since the color identity seems obviously colorless and if you add <> to your mana pool you can use it to pay for artifacts, etc. What I meant is that using City of Brass to add colorless mana to pay for <> seems so out of flavor to me that <> meaning "you have to pay colorless" seems way off what <> will mean.
I am confident enough in the other direction I would be willing to place a bet.
20  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: [OGW] Wastes: Barry's Land is REAL? on: November 21, 2015, 07:20:50 am
No what I mean by Commander is that currently, should you be running a colourless General (Karn for example) you can not run any basics. This card being a colourless land would make sense as it fills that role. It is just says 't: add (1) to your mana pool' then you have that basic you need for these decks.

Also a while back there was a thing on the Mothership saying they had worked out a way to make colourless Basics talking directly to the EDH crowd. Later at Pax Aus there was something from Aaron saying they had been working on a fix. Seriously, with everything I have seen I am willing to bet good money this card will simply tap for a colourless mana and that symbol means "Use Colourless to pay this mana cost".

I am willing to be proven wrong, but right now I don't feel I am.
21  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: [OGW] Wastes: Barry's Land is REAL? on: November 21, 2015, 02:35:15 am
I don't feel this is the "simplest" implementation...Rather, how is a land producing colorless "Eldrazi" mana (which is analogous to Snow-covered Island tapping for blue Snow mana) any more complex? "It's colorless mana that you can use to cast certain Eldrazi spells" seems very intuitive to me.

Also, why have the lands tap for (<>) rather than {1}? If all (<>) means is you have to use colorless mana to satisfy the cost, why add this to mana-producing abilities? Doesn't reminder text that saying (<>) can only be paid with colorless mana suffice? Errata affecting all colorless sources seems completely unnecessary. Why change the hundreds of cards that produce colorless mana when you can just add reminder text to the handful of cards in which the (<>) symbol is relevant?
Because this is ugly:


Also because the symbol can mean "Use only colourless to pay this cost". So Islands, Mountains, Forests, Plains,  Swamps, Mox, Academy, Lotus, Cradle and so on can not be used to pay the mana costs of cards with that symbol. I feel if this new land is to have any longevity, that's the path to take. To stop it being Snow lands and give it a real use, that's what you do.
22  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: [OGW] Wastes: Barry's Land is REAL? on: November 20, 2015, 10:11:02 pm
No, but it does give a colourless land for EDH to use. I also feel that the simplest way to use it would be to make it a "Colour" going forward and that symbol means: 'Use non coloured mana to pay this cost.'

The support for this card will be Colourless EDH decks which until this point, could not play basic lands.
23  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: [OGW] Wastes: Barry's Land is REAL? on: November 20, 2015, 04:01:40 am
I think it's mostly made for EDH. Right now if you play a deck with say, Karn, Silver Golem as your commander you can't run basics. This solves that's.

Also the simplest way I think to make this work is to make it read:"Spend only colourless on this symbol".

So that new big guy costs 10 colourless, but 2 of its mana must come from actual colourless sources. That's my guess.
24  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: [ORG]Jace,Vryn's Prodigy//Jace, Telepath Unbound on: October 09, 2015, 01:36:12 am
Narset and Jace would make for in interesting combo.
25  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Windows 7? on: October 08, 2015, 07:41:09 am
OEM's come with the issue that you can not use a retail disk to activate them, you must use am OEM disk. (Granted you can make one with a retail disk.) It also means you can't download the software from the Microsoft site. (A bitch that one.)

I had an OEM disk stop working and it was a royal pain. Finding a legitimate OEM iso is quite hard and finding a legit retail can be too. Keep that in mind.
26  Eternal Formats / Eternal Article Discussion / Re: [Free Podcast] So Many Insane Plays Podcast Episode 49: B/R List Update on: October 05, 2015, 01:53:59 am
Do you feel Karn, Silver Golem gains any benefit with the unrestriction of Thirst? To speak of big mana decks and large Mox decks, does it look like he might see some small returns?
27  Eternal Formats / General Strategy Discussion / Re: NEW TMD LOGO on: October 04, 2015, 10:17:03 am
Star City Games
Never would have guessed that. Odd. I don't get the impression SCG cares about Vintage any more.
28  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Shrinking vintage in SE US on: October 04, 2015, 10:10:07 am
- Brisbane 2M people: 25+ players leagues twice a year & monthly events.
We also smack each other before Legacy starts. It's not uncommon to see people playing before an event. The reason is that most of the Legacy players here have at lest a proxy deck.

That's not a bad way to kick things off either. A game like TPS v Grixis will draw a crowd like nothing else. People are happy to watch something new so when you have a game going before a Legacy event, you can use it as a springboard to talk about the format. Then, after a few weeks, announce a proxy tournament that let's people play in the times that suit them. That's fun to, seeing people play league games before Legacy. It too is a conversation starter.
29  Eternal Formats / Blue-Based Control / Re: New Gifts, without Brainstorm or Thirst for Knowledge on: October 03, 2015, 09:31:11 am
For the SB, maybe Vandalblast could take the spot of Chewers.
Even with Chalice gone, it is still worth remembering and balancing up the fact that shops will still run Thorn. Likely more now then ever. While Blast is strong, I am not sure its really going to be that much stronger that Chewer unless you are planing to use it against non Shops players.
30  Eternal Formats / Workshop-Based Prison / Re: Shop Depths on: October 02, 2015, 05:46:19 am
This is a list one of the locals has been playing for about 3 years. Since the restrictions it will need some work, but it is a proven platform:
4
8) Josh Archer – Dirty MUD
4 Mishra’s Workshop
4 Ancient Tomb
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Dark Depths
1 Buried Ruin
1 Wasteland
3 Thespian Stage
1 Strip Mine

1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault

3 Expedition Map
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Tangle Wire
4 Sphere of Resistance
2 Thorn of Amethyst
1 Trinisphere
2 Crucible of Worlds
2 Coercive Portal
3 Staff of Nin
1 Batterskull

4 Lodestone Golem
2 Karn, Silver Golem

Sideboard:
2 Defence Grid
1 Batterskull
1 The Tabernacle at Pendral Vale
2 Dismember
2 Portcullis
1 Karakas1 Bojuka Bog
1 Tormod’s Crypt
4 Grafdiggers Cage
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