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1  Eternal Formats / Northeast U.S. / Re: Semi-Annual Black Magic Invitational(formerly the MVPLS invitational) on: December 30, 2014, 07:10:05 pm
I will definitely be at this one!
2  Eternal Formats / Northeast U.S. / Re: MVPLS Vintage Event---THE INVITATIONAL 5-24-14 on: May 25, 2014, 01:26:50 pm
Man, shops is really dead...

Why yes, yes they are indeed...
3  Eternal Formats / Northeast U.S. / Re: [Top Deck Games] 6.22.13 - $2000 Vintage Event - Part of our 2013 Eternal Series on: June 20, 2013, 03:52:10 pm
To Everyone: Please stop running a sensible amount of Shop hate, and go back to skimping on cards for that matchup.

Thank you,
Your local Shop pilots
I second this motion!
4  Eternal Formats / Northeast U.S. / Re: MVPLS Vintage Event 5-25-13 on: May 23, 2013, 10:08:02 pm
I can't wait to attend and win my first MVPLS event  Very Happy

Couldnt have said it better myself!  I will also be bringing my bro too and willing to carpool with others if they are interested.  I am from the King of Prussia/Pottstown area.
5  Eternal Formats / Northeast U.S. / Re: MVPLS Vintage Event 5-25-13 on: May 20, 2013, 11:12:33 am
Glackin, I may be going to this event but wont know until later in the week if I will be able to go.  If I do go, I would be looking to car pool too.
6  Vintage Community Discussion / Community Introductions / Re: growing vintage on: July 12, 2012, 09:25:06 pm
It's a small community (10 players at the April event) but I have a feeling that the numbers will continue to grow, it'll just take us some time to get there.

-josh-

This is exactly how the Blue Bell, Pa (Philly area) vintage grew, our first tournament had 9 players and grew from there. (and yes it does take some time, probably more for you in the southern part of the country because you arent so close to an already active are as Philly was to NY and NE many years ago).
7  Eternal Formats / Northeast U.S. / Re: Top Deck Games Summer Open - August 11 & 12! Over $5k in total prizes!!!!!! on: July 11, 2012, 10:54:55 pm
Ill be there Sunday, not so sure about Saturday.
8  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: American BoM Style Event/Prize Support on: July 10, 2012, 04:29:11 pm
I'd probably play regardless of entry fee, but I voted for the $50 max entry. Constructed GP's are averaging around $40 entry these days and I'd be cautious about going much higher.

I'd imagine there would be oodles of side events to help bring in more revenue.

Also, I know this is just one layman's opinion, but I really do not like that church for PTQ-sized events, which is what this will hopefully be. Seating is often way too cramped. Does anybody know how much that basement can comfortably accommodate, with "comfortable" defined as no more than two matches to a 6 ft. table, or three matches to an 8 ft. table? Not to mention the bathrooms are terrible, and the support posts always get in people's way, and it's never quite the right temperature down there.

But I'm not going to just complain without suggesting some alternatives:

Um, maybe. It turns out the Rexplex (site of GP Affinity '04) right by Newark Airport is now closed. Sad

Well, there's also the site of GP NJ '06 in Toms River, but that may be a pain to get to.

Or maybe where the last SCG event in Edison was held, the Raritan Center I think? Close proximity to Harold's!

I believe that the church can hold several hundred people.  I remember being at PTQs in the 200-300 range for attendance and not being cramped, as well as a couple of Nick Coss's events there that had around 100 for vintage and 150+ for standard and it being more than spacious for those.
9  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: American BoM Style Event/Prize Support on: July 08, 2012, 10:31:57 pm
$50 is a good chunk of change.  For that amount, I'd expect full unlimited P9 + all dual lands playset for 1st, Lotus+big blue+Time Vault+all dual lands playset for 2nd, 5 moxen + all dual lands playset for 3rd/4th, big blue + all dual lands playset for 5th/6th, time vault + all dual lands playset for 7th/8th, and then all dual lands playset for 9-12, drains + FoWs for 13-16, and 1 mox for 17-32.

Consider the following:

Black Lotus - $850
Ancestral Recall - $350
Time Walk - $325
Timetwister - $175
Mox Sapphire - $400
Mox Jet - $350
Mox Ruby - $325
Mox Emerald - $325
Mox Pearl - $325

Total: $3425

Underground Sea - $90 per
Tropical Island - $80 per
Tundra - $80 per
Volcanic Island - $65 per

Total: $1560

Let's just average out all the other duals and call them $50 apiece.

Total: $1200

Mana Drain (English) - $80 per

Force of Will - $40

So, your suggested first place prize is worth $6,185.

You have an additional cost of the venue, which you believe will run you between $1,000-$1,500 for the day.  Let's call it $1,200, and say that you ended up with a good deal.  This now brings your total to $7,385.

Your second place prize is about $3,660, so your cost is now about $11,045.

You're giving out $3,485 each for third and fourth, which brings your total to $14,530.

You're giving out $2,610 to fifth and sixth, bringing your total to $19,750.

Seventh and eighth will run about $2,000 per, bringing your total to $23,750.

Ninth through twelfth will run you $7,040, which will push you to $30,790. 

Thirteenth through sixteenth will run you about $1,920, pushing your total to $32,710.

Seventeenth through thirty second will run you about $5,600, pushing your total to $38,310.

The biggest North American Vintage tournament in the last couple of years that I remember was GenCon, which cracked 140.  But let's say that you break that, wildly, and end up with 200 players.

This amounts to $10,000 in cash, netting you more than a $28,000 loss.

The most offensive part of your post isn't your math, which wasn't performed, but that you would even suggest something so wildly impossible in the current American Vintage scene as to degrade an honest effort to do a real service to the community.  Only you and a government employee would suggest numbers like that.

There are a lot of different people in this world, but it basically boils down to people who enjoy building and people who enjoy tearing things down.  If your intention was to come in, say something offensive and scurry out, please find somewhere else to participate, as we have absolutely no use for that, or you, if you choose to be that way, on TMD.

I didn't exactly do the math...but just saying


Sunday 20th may VINTAGE MAIN:
Vintage@BOM6, more than 30 P9 pieces, mana drains, Bazaars of Bagdhad and a lot more to win. Prizes for top 32 !
Entry Fee : 30.
Registration : 7h30 - Round 1 : 9h00
PREREGISTRATION


1:   Full POWER 9 (unlim)
(black lotus, all 5 mox, ancestral recall
time walk and time twister)
2:   5 Moxes (one of each)
3: Big Blue (Ancestrall recal + Time walk + Time twister)
4: Big Blue (Ancestrall recal + Time walk + Time twister)
5: 2 mox
6: 2 mox
7: 2 mox
8: 2 mox
9: 1 Mox
10: 1 Mox
11: 1 Mox
12: 1 Mox
13: 1 Bazaar of Baghdad
14: 1 Bazaar of Baghdad
15: 1 Bazaar of Baghdad
16: 1 Bazaar of Baghdad
17: 1 Mana Crypt
18: 1 Mana Crypt
19: 1 Mana Crypt
20: 1 Mana Crypt
21: 1 Mana Crypt
22: 1 Mana Crypt
23: 1 Mana Crypt
24: 1 Mana Crypt
25:   1 dual land
26:   1 dual land
27:   1 dual land
28:   1 dual land
29:   1 dual land
30:   1 dual land
31: 1 dual land
32: 1 dual land

Unpow:
1 : Ancestral Recall
2 : Bazaar of baghdad
3 : Mana drain VI
4 : Mana Drain VI
5 : 1 Dual Land
6 : 1 Dual Land
7 : 1 Dual Land
8 : 1 Dual Land


Budgets:
1 : Mox unlimited
2 : Mana Drain VI
3 : 1 Dual Land


I was being facetious with my prize suggestion....obviously THAT kind of prize support would even make BoM look like FNM at a Arizona game shop.  But, in seriousness, I do think prizes need to go from 1-32 and be comparable to what BoM is doing.  Yes, you may just barely break even, but you might make a smidge of a profit.  You say Gencon has the record for attendance, but the prizes for that was some shitty drawing and a blowjob from Garfield's grandma.  Hardly an enticing support.  Yes, many players love to play and would plop down $100 for the chance to play and a pack of Bazooka Joe, but MANY more people actually want some monetary value for their effort.  I live in TX, for example.  A trip to NJ to play in a tourney at anything less than the P9, and I'm not getting out of bed for it.  You want to bring people from across America and perhaps Europe?  Make it worth their while.  If you expect people to flood New England for the prize support of an NYSE, and you're dreaming.

And my tenure at the IRS should NOT be called into question Wink

     I would love to see prizes go out to the top 32 players but highly doubt this tournament would pull in enough money to make it happen.  You quoted BOM's prize support for this year, the 6th year of that tournament, one that has grown substantially year to year, even they started small (the first year only had one Vintage event with a relatively small turnout for their standards).  I do believe that at some point in the future a tournament in America could support a prize support like that, especially if this becomes an annual tournament (which I would love to see), but we, as a community, need to show TOs that we can support prize structures like BOM's before they are willing to shell out the cash for all of those prizes.

     I believe that a scaled prize structure would be the best option for everyone.  It would mean that the TO wouldnt lose money if the turnout was small and would prompt players to get their friends to come out and play in order to boost the prizes up.

    I would suggest holding this tournament in late May or June instead of the spring.  This would get around the college semester, which can make it very hard for many players to attend event.

   What about that church in Edison, NJ as a venue?  It's pretty safe area that is pretty central and easy to get to from every direction.
10  Eternal Formats / Northeast U.S. / Re: Full of Win Games Vintage Series 4 - NEV SERIES QUALIFIER - 6-30-12 on: June 21, 2012, 09:51:34 pm
Jon Richards and I are interested in going with you.

Count me in Mickey Noblis!

Google Telford, PA and make sure it's good for you guys.  It might be iffy for Jon, but I'm sure you two would benefit, and I'd happily have you three as my caravan.

Telford is fine for me, only a short drive from my house.  I believe that Jon will meet me at my house and we will head to yours from there.
11  Eternal Formats / Northeast U.S. / Re: Full of Win Games Vintage Series 4 - NEV SERIES QUALIFIER - 6-30-12 on: June 21, 2012, 08:54:47 pm
If anyone is looking to come up from the south NJ/Philly area, my place makes a good starting point and I'll happily drive.  My usual caravan is not attending, I'll gladly drive a new one.

Jon Richards and I are interested in going with you.
12  Eternal Formats / Northeast U.S. / Re: Announcing the 2012 Northeast Vintage Series! Time to play in NY and NJ! on: December 18, 2011, 10:41:58 pm
Get off your couch, trade shifts with someone at work, get the day off, and make the effort to come play Vintage!

A lot easier said than done.
13  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Cards you are embarrassed to not have on: October 31, 2011, 11:06:15 pm
I am still missing a Mox Pearl.  Since I started picking up Shops and Power, I have completely pimped out everything I would play in a shop deck [minus 4 Jester's Caps (I only want german ice age or korean 5th ed), 1 korean Null Rod, 2 korean City of Traitors, 4 Pithing Needle (I cannot find Japanese Saviors ones), and 4 Relic of Progenitus (have not been able to find them at a good price)] as well as most cards for blue decks, except duals, fetches, goyfs, bobs, and random cheap cards. 
I do not play with Drains enough to justify owning them and have traded/sold every one Ive ever gotten.  And I cant justify buying Bazaars for dredge cause Id rather play shops in any sanctioned vintage event Id play in.  So its only the Mox Pearl that I am missing and embarrassed about not having.
14  Eternal Formats / Global Vintage Tournament Reports and Results / Re: BBGD 17.5 TO Report, with decklists and a metagame breakdown on: September 17, 2011, 12:49:04 pm
Josh, what made you decide not to play Tinker and Blightsteel?
15  Eternal Formats / Global Vintage Tournament Reports and Results / Re: BBGD 17.5 TO Report, with decklists and a metagame breakdown on: September 14, 2011, 04:12:52 pm
Shit that's a lot more Dredge than I'm used to seeing.
I had to play against it three times!
Jesus that's ridiculous   Shops 3x makes sense, but sucks; Dredge 3x is just really stupid.

I lost to Elias round 2 then beat him in top 8 and Father Gans in top 4, so I guess it wasnt too bad in the end.
16  Eternal Formats / Global Vintage Tournament Reports and Results / Re: BBGD 17.5 TO Report, with decklists and a metagame breakdown on: September 13, 2011, 07:54:52 pm
Shit that's a lot more Dredge than I'm used to seeing.
I had to play against it three times!
17  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Early impressions of Innistrad on: August 31, 2011, 05:12:15 pm
Does anybody know if Innistrad will be legal for this tournament?
So far it doesnt look like this will matter, the set looks terrible Sad


I didn't want Ray's Waterbury thread to get hijacked by a discussion about Innistrad, so the discussion has been moved here.
-MM
18  Eternal Formats / Northeast U.S. / Re: TMD OPEN 15 - October 8,9, 2011 - Stratford, CT on: August 30, 2011, 12:16:43 am

...is someone predicting that shops will win this tournament?
19  Eternal Formats / Northeast U.S. / Re: TMD OPEN 15 - October 8,9, 2011 - Stratford, CT on: August 29, 2011, 06:48:15 pm
Is it actually going to be in color?
20  Eternal Formats / Northeast U.S. / Re: BBGD 17.5 - Saturday, September 10th - Mox to 1st, only $20 to play! on: August 28, 2011, 12:06:02 am
I believe that I can make this.
21  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: modern on: August 24, 2011, 12:06:22 am
I am mostly because its going to be similar to legacy once it settles and I have all of the cards for it since I picked them up from old extended seasons.

I have done a little bit of testing and the format seems like it is going to be Naya Zoo and things geared to beat Naya Zoo.
22  Eternal Formats / Northeast U.S. / Re: TMD OPEN 15 - October 8,9, 2011 - Stratford, CT on: August 21, 2011, 03:34:28 pm
to be completely honest, Team Hangley is possibly going to have some of the biggest assholes of all time on it.  You want to be harassed and have to listen to me drunkenly sass my opponent while dressed as pooh bear you have got yourself a deal my good man!

I definitely cant miss this now!
23  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Last minute addition! Grudge Match III BINGO! on: August 12, 2011, 11:53:45 pm
Paul Mastriano {-}Jesse Martin {-}ryan glackin {-}Andy Farias {-}Andy Probasco
Chris pikula {-}Mike noble {-}Nick Detwiler {-}Shawn Anthony {-}Mark Hornung
Sam Berse {-}Jake Gans {-}Evan Hundertmark {-}Jon Richards {-}Joe Brown
Matt Elias {-}Brendan banfield {-}Max Brown {-}Vito picozzo {-}Steve Nowakowski
Jon Jones {-}Josh Potucek {-}Allen fulmer {-}Jeff Folinus {-}Ed Carey
24  Eternal Formats / Northeast U.S. / Re: TDG Summer Open! Grudge Match 3! UL LOTUS? 4x FOIL JACE TMS! August 13th in NJ on: August 12, 2011, 01:09:19 am
Is there going to be a grudge match III bingo?
25  Eternal Formats / Global Vintage Tournament Reports and Results / Re: 1st place Dredge report TPG Council Open #7 on: July 28, 2011, 01:28:46 pm
Congrats on the win.  It seems as if Shawn Anthony and myself are the only people playing dredge hate these days. With the exception of Duffy who has them maindeck all the time. Why Is everyone so greedy and cutting all of they're dredge hate?
I always have my dredge hate and will never cut it.
26  Eternal Formats / Global Vintage Tournament Reports and Results / Re: TO Report: The Council Open #7 - TPG - Bloomsburg, PA - 7/23/11 on: July 23, 2011, 11:30:44 pm
Can't believe this TO report is up already, you're a damn champion! 
He started it before round 5 was over!  Now thats a good TO!
27  Eternal Formats / Northeast U.S. / Re: UPDATED! The Players Guild - Mox Ruby - 7/23/11 - Council Open #7 Bloomsburg, PA on: July 23, 2011, 12:11:48 am
Hundtermark
slight spelling error, its Hundertmark, but at least you got all the letters (better than most people)
28  Eternal Formats / Northeast U.S. / Re: UPDATED! The Players Guild - Mox Ruby - 7/23/11 - Council Open #7 Bloomsburg, PA on: July 22, 2011, 12:40:59 pm
With less then 24 to go, who is gonna come down to bloom and take second place?

You are.  Im taking the Ruby!
29  Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: Renting cards. on: July 22, 2011, 12:32:20 am
Most dealer will "rent" cards out by allowing players to buy the cards at the beginning of the day and then sell them back at the end of the day, that is the only way I have ever heard of this working out.
30  Eternal Formats / Northeast U.S. / Re: UPDATED! The Players Guild - Mox Ruby - 7/23/11 - Council Open #7 Bloomsburg, PA on: July 17, 2011, 01:39:17 pm
I think that everyone should be like Myriad Games and plan out and announce every event until December.

Anyways, I will be there this weekend.
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