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Rico Suave
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« on: September 28, 2002, 04:45:40 pm »

Well, I have good news and bad news.

Good news: I won first AND had a lot of fun.

Bad news: My deck and bag of valuable cards were stolen.

So now I'm waiting to see if the cards show up again.  If they do, good.  If not, I'll have to start over. :-/

Anyway, here's the deck I used:

4 City of Brass
4 Underground Sea
3 Tundra
3 Volcanic Island
1 Undiscovered Paradise
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Strip Mine
3 Wasteland
5 Moxen
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Academy

1 StP
1 Balance
1 Dismantling Blow

4 Mana Drain
4 FoW
1 Mis-D
1 Teferi's Response
1 Ancestral
1 FoF
1 Stroke
1 Time Walk
1 Timetwister
1 M. Tutor
1 M. Scroll
2 Morphling

1 D. Tutor
1 Abyss
1 Diabolic Edict
1 Will
1 Mind Twist

1 Shaman

1 Sylvan
1 Regrowth

1 Fire/Ice

1 Zuran Orb

SB:
4 REB
1 Scrying Glass
1 CoP: Red
2 Powder Keg
2 StP
2 Pyroclasm
1 Ensnaring Bridge
1 Compost
1 Aura Fracture

Round 1 vs. sligh

Game 1-I mulligan to 6.  He gets out a Vandal to eat my Mox, and Wastelands one of my U-land.  I lose the game with a grand total of 5 mana sources drawn, 2 which were U-producing (and consequently destroyed).

SB: -Sylvan, Stroke, Timetwister, Misdirection, Wasteland, Edict, FoW
+ CoP: Red, 2 Keg, 2 Pyroclasm, StP, Aura Fracture (Blood Moon)

Game 2-On my 2nd turn, I Mind Twisted him for 3.  On my 3rd turn, I layed CoP: Red.  Fow a while I drew lots land (including all 4 City of Brass), but it didn't matter because he stalled and couldn't overcome the CoP.

Game 3-He lays several critters and I destroy them.  We start topdecking with nothing really interesting happening, but he keeps burning me.  Eventually he starts overcoming me with a Cursed Scroll that was forced through via Blast, but I fight back with a topdecked Zuran Orb to complement the Balance in hand.  I gain lots of life, he loses Cursed Scroll ability.  Later on I topdeck Yawgmoth's Will to recast Balnace, then I lay several eaten Moxen and replay my Wasted Academy to pump out a Morph.  The game ends shortly thereafter.

Round 2 vs. mono-B Nether Void (he's using my exact version of the deck but without power, and coincidently he's using my cards I loaned him).

Game 1-He Hymns me and I Mind Twist him, but luckily I got out some quick mana before he got to my hand.  It didn't really matter, because he started destroying my land.  I was sitting on Morph in my hand for a bit, and I lay it all out when I draw Academy (I think I had 2 Moxen).  He can't deal with it, so I STEAL GAME 1 FROM MY WORST MATCH!  WOOHOO!.

SB: -Zorb, Fire/Ice, Sylvan, Shaman, Stroke, D.Blow,
+Compost, Ensnaring Bridge, 2 StP, Aura Fracture, Pyroclasm

Game 2-He gets a first turn Sol Ring+Swamp+Black Lotus+Nether Void, and I am without Force.  He starts casting nasty spells a couple turns later while I sit there like a duck and never actually get enough mana to cast anything.

Game 3-I Mind Twist him for 4 first turn (Mind Twist owns aggro).  He is mana-screwed, and I get LoA active.  Morph shows up later with him unable to do much of anything.

Round 3 vs. Stacker2 (I was the previous owner of those Workshops).

Game 1-He lays out lots of junk, but I pull out random things to amaze myself and simultaneously kill his dudes.  I eventually gain a pseudo-form of control (pseudo meaning I have Morphling on the table and counters in hand), but he has Winter Orb on the table.  He overwhelms my mana with threats, and resolves Wheel (had Mis-D in hand) with me at low life.  I was saddened because I just drew Shaman the turn before but had no mana to cast him, and now I lost him AND the Balance I was saving.  I smile however, as my new hand consists of insane artifact mana and Yawgmoth's Will.  He unloads his hand like he should, and I am forced to sac all but one land to Zorb in an effort to stay alive.  Before I sacced them however, I tapped them and actually killed off my own Morphling.  I untap, lay more acceleration than he did and play Will.  He says I won't win, but I prove otherwise after Balancing from the grave, then replaying Academy (hardcore game-winner) and then Morph.  He has no lands, no critters, and no untapped artifact mana curtosy of my Shaman.  Morph takes it to him, and once again game 1 is MINE.

SB: -Sylvan, -Timetwister, -Abyss, -Stroke, -Mis-D
+Ensnaring Bridge, 2 StP, 2 Keg (mistake, which I blame on my inexperience playing against tubbies)

Game 2-In the first 4 turns I dealt with 3 Winter Orbs.  Then he proceeds to draw 3 Welders soon thereafter, but thankfully those are easier to kill than artifacts.  It doesn't really matter however, as his 3rd one stays in play, revives a bunch of angry artifact men, and kills my Ensnaring Bridge by switching it with a Powder Keg in the grave.  I only had 1 card in hand too. :-/

SB: -2 Keg
+2 Pyroclasm

Game 3-I kill a couple Welders early on, but he doesn't have much pure fatness to threaten me.  That changes when he resolves Wheel with 2 REB for back-up.  Luckily I draw into too much removal, and don't have enough targets for it all.  Soon after I get Shaman and proceed to eat everything.  Morphling cleans up what Shaman started.

Round 4 vs. Keeper

Game 1-I get heavily mana-screwed by my own deck, and my opponent's Wastelands (once tutored for, I believe) just nail the coffin shut.

SB: -Zorb, Fire/Ice, Abyss, StP, M.Tutor
+4 REB, Scrying Glass

Game 2-I get hardcore owned by Sylvan.  Everything I do has an answer, and I'm simply overwhelmed by too many things to deal with.

Despite losing the last round, I still make it to top 4 in 2nd place.  

Round 5 (top4 semifinals) vs. turboland

Game 1-I get my Ancestral Duressed, and Fastbond makes it's way out onto the board with no Force in hand.  I draw a Mana Drain next turn, and find a good target for it in my my opponent's Horn of Greed.  Things line up perfectly as I M.Tutor for D.Blow and sink the mana into killing his Fastbond (with kicker for style).  He is unable to get any kind of combo parts out despite lots of Gushing, and Morphling eventually finishes him off.

SB: -Zorb, Fire/Ice, Shaman, Edict, Abyss, StP
+4 REB, 1 Scrying, 1 Aura Fracture

Game 2-We both take out times, but not until after Aura Fracture slips into play.  We both abuse the Horn of Greed, but he can't abuse it as much as he should.  He never gets any kind of combo started as I nuke Exploration, Trade Routes, and still have plenty of land left over for the Fastbond in his hand.  That never hits play thoug because Morph beats it to the punch.

Round 6 (finals) vs. Keeper (same one from round 4)

Game 1-I believe it's my turn to pump up the mana-screw in the mirror.  I get multiple Wastelands in the first several turns, and I get LoA for kicks.  Teferi's Response not only protected LoA, but made it active (  ).  I play Morph and meet little resistance.

SB: -Zorb, Fire/Ice, Abyss, StP, M.Tutor
+4 REB, Scrying Glass

Game 2-This game would've been a really good one assuming that I had some counterspells.  I got tons of utility but nothing substantial and game-defining.  I did get a REB and Mis-D later on, but that was only after Morphling was staring me down.

Game 3-I attempt a first turn Sylvan, but that gets Forced.  I'm still enthusiastic however as I resolve my 2nd plan of attack: Scrying Glass.  My opponent responds with LoA, but we have a slugging match with Mind Twists (I Twist for all but 1 card, and I miss picking the opposing Mind Twist).  I end up pulling ahead afterwards though, and turn into monster-Keeper when I drop 2 Morphs and Time Walk.  Next turn I tutored for Regrowth, then recast Time Walk.  I win before my opponent can clear the Morphs with Balance, but I had counters to stop that anyway.

So all in all, the tourney itself was fun and I was very happy with the way the deck worked.  

MVP's: Mind Twist, Academy
Not up to snuff: Fire/Ice, Mis-D

Any suggestions on the deck itself are welcome, just make them civil and well thought.
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cooberp
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« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2002, 04:54:42 pm »

You had THAT deck stolen?????
And you're able to think about winning the tournament?  I'd be crying and calling the cops.

Nice job.  Can't quite see the case for a MD Timetwister.

It seems like Academy is making a comeback in Keeper decks after being out of vogue for a long time.  I personally like it.

A lot of people (including NG'ers) are liking a Cunning Wish.  I'm among them.
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« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2002, 09:13:19 pm »

About Academy: Which is sort of funny, since as a long time advocate of Academy, I've been cutting it lately for another Tundra.

You got your Keeper stolen? If that ever happened to me, I'd probably cut my losses and sell the rest of my junk.

Ugh. Anyways, kudos to you for being somewhat(?) composed. Good job owning aggro, even though apparently  anything with a first turn 2/x creature spells doom for Keeper, nowadays. Wink

On Cunning Wish : A hearty HELL YEAH from me.
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2002, 05:09:31 pm »

Quote from: Zherbus+Sep. 28 2002,18:13
Quote (Zherbus @ Sep. 28 2002,18:13)composed. Good job owning aggro, even though apparently  anything with a first turn 2/x creature spells doom for Keeper, nowadays. Wink
<rolls eyes>

I wouldn't start that again.....aren't you the site owner who's suppossed to keep order?  Wink

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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2002, 06:49:38 pm »

Wheres the disorder? I was merely commenting on the fact that because some keeper players had some rough times in a sea of hate, Keeper is still going strong. I think the initial knee-jerk reactions were a bit over the edge to say the least. And to see that Keeper is doing well in recent reports just stresses that point.

Sure, a wake up call to Keeper players to not ignore aggro and worry about mirror matches any longer may have been needed for some, but things got way out of hand and the conclusions drawn were too extreme to say the least.

Theres nothing wrong with me pointing that out. If I am the owner of the site, I dont see why that means I should keep my mouth shut about things, as I am a contributing member of this community as much as anyone else.

@ Rico - I'm suprised you sided in Bridge against stacker2. Weren't you worried about them eating a mox and welding it away?
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2002, 08:24:17 pm »

Wait, how is Stacker supposed to eat a mox? Karn?
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2002, 08:38:30 pm »

Quote from: Matt The Great+Sep. 30 2002,21:24
Quote (Matt The Great @ Sep. 30 2002,21:24)Wait, how is Stacker supposed to eat a mox? Karn?
You have way too much time on your hands, Matt.

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Quote  It doesn't really matter however, as his 3rd one stays in play, revives a bunch of angry artifact men, and kills my Ensnaring Bridge by switching it with a Powder Keg in the grave.

Yeah Karn and some workshop decks (often in general called stacker) run shamans as well. The above example was the point I was making. Any other minute inaccuracies youd like to clear up?
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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2002, 09:10:11 pm »

Technically, its Stacker2

 

edit:
actually, this is more of a correction to Matt then to Zherbus  
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2002, 09:11:31 pm »

Quote from: j_orlove+Sep. 30 2002,22:10
Quote (j_orlove @ Sep. 30 2002,22:10)Technically, its Stacker2

 
Yes I know, but when someone refers to 'stacker' they dont always mean 'stacker2'.
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Matt The Great
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« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2002, 12:57:17 am »

Hahaha, yeah, I have a good eye for stuff like that.
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Rico Suave
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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2002, 12:07:39 pm »

I tried out Cunning Wish, but didn't like it enough.  If Pyroclasm was an instant, I probably would've used it to be honest.

I didn't feel the need for Vamp anymore, so I threw in Timetwister.  I know it's an iffy choice, but it does make amazing comebacks on occassion.  I almost never saw it anyway.  If I recall the first time I saw it was on a FoF split in round 3 where I picked the other pile.

I've had experience playing tubbies against Keeper, but not playing Keeper against tubbies until then (because nobody else had workshops).  I also didn't see any Shamans, so it never occurred to me.  I'd still think that if I kept Welders off the table that Bridge would rock hardcore, so it seemed like a really good choice over the other options I had.
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