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xerxes
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« on: February 28, 2004, 02:34:08 pm »

Drumbroll please..............Hermit Druid
It is a one card two turn kill condition. With counter backup after a long game, it could be the perfect kill. It is also something that can be searched for quickly to combo out thoses pesky aggro decks, especially Oshowa Stompy. The biggest problem with Hermit Druid is graveyeard hate. Blood Moon could also be a serious problem since the druid necessitates no islands.

Hermit druid wins by...
Playing the Druid with at least 6 mana sources(one can be in your hand)
During your next upkeep, use the Druid's ability to put your library into your graveyard, and use Krosan Reclamation's ability to shuffle one Yawgmoth's Will into your deck.
Draw the Yawg Will During Your Main Phase.
During your main phase, play cabal Therapy saccing the Druid for some defense.
     Play Yawgmoth's Will
     Play 4 Moxes +1 Black Lotus + 1 Tolarian Academy
     Tap 2 Moxes for Grim Monolith
     Tap Tolarian Academy to cast Power Artifact on the Monolith
     Go Infinite and cast Braingeyser for 50,000 on your opponent using Tolarian Academy's blue mana.


This deck can be played in one of two ways
1. Put down the Druid as fast as possible. This is if your opponent has no disruption.
2. Play like normal keeper, and be reactive.

Hermit Keeper

1 Black Lotus
1 Grim Monolith
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Sol Ring

1 Cabal Therapy
1 Death Wish
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Duress   
1 Mind Twist
1 Yawgmoth's Will

1 Ancestral Recall
1 Braingeyser
4 Brainstorm
2 Cunning Wish
1 Fact or Fiction
4 Force of Will
4 Mana Drain
2 Misdirection
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Power Artifact
1 Time Walk

3 Hermit Druid
1 Pernicious Deed
1 Regrowth
1 Krosan Reclamation

2 Flooded Strand
1 Library of Alexandria
2 Polluted Delta
1 Strip Mine
1 Tolarian Academy
4 Tropical Island
4 Underground Sea
4 Wasteland

SB:
1 Stroke of Genius
2 Blue Elemental Blast
4 Naturalize
4 Oxidize
2 Nevinryall's Disk
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Island

Tell Me What you think
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2004, 02:47:25 pm »

keeper already has ways to draw it's kill condition and such. is the risk of graveyard hate necessary?

the only positive thing i see about this is when playing against aggro decks, you can be faster. it also turns keeper, a control deck, into a combo deck.
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2004, 04:50:00 pm »

I agree, it sounds fun and for combo-phreaks (no bad-will intended, we just don't all like combos Razz) it's a great idea.

However, I wouldn't play it. Not with the massive amount of graveyard-hate a lot of people pack, both main and side, nowadays, Dragon-combo really stinks when it comes down to stuff like this. That, and som eof the weirder (local?) decks with stuff like nether-spirit and stuff for madness decks...
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2004, 05:09:04 pm »

...or just use Oath of Druids, like ze Germans have used in their SB's for a long time.
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2004, 05:58:07 pm »

The problem with Oath of Druids is that it requires your opponent to have a creature which many decks have few of. I actually got my idea for this deck from the German Oath of Druids decks, and thought Hermit Druid was almost strictly better than the Oath. I realize that graveyard hate could be a problem, but that is why I include pernicious Deed for tormod's crypt. Death Wish is for if something goes wrong. You should only go for the Hermit Druid win if you have counter backup. Destroy tormod's Crypt with Cunning Wish->oxidize if on the table. Graveyard hate typically isn't maindecked, so the first game should be relatively easy. A transformational sideboard to Morphlings could also be used.

As a side note I think transformational sideboards are underused in type 1.
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2004, 07:52:03 pm »

Transformational sideboards are rarely used in Type 1 because most decks do not have a large enough block of cards that are bad in certain matchups.  This is also heavily because Wishes have made it so decks do not need to run dead cards maindeck that they might've had to run before.
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