[Deck Discussion] Nether Void with Blue and Green

[johnstown713]

Ok I have been playing the typical Nether Void with black green but thought the blue splash would help a lot.  Sorry I know that there is a thread in the open type 1 forum but I thought this was a litlle different.


Mana Producers:
4 Swamp
3 Underground Sea
4 Bayou
2 Polluted Delta
1 Strip Mine
3 Mishra's Factory
3 Wasteland
1 Lotus Petal
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Jet

Spells:
3 Nether Void
1 Necropotence
1 Sol Ring
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Powder Keg
1 Yawgmoth's Will
4 Hymn to Tourach
4 Duress
3 Sinkhole
3 Pernicious Deed
4 Dark Ritual
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk

Creatures:
3 Hypnotic Specter
3 Nantuko Shade
3 Withered Wretch


Sideboard:
3 Ground Seal or Planar Void
2 Perish
2 Null Rod
3 Naturalize
3 Contagion
2 Masticore

Is the blue worth it.  It has proven awsome to me in testing I just wanted other opinions.

[colder]

I'll sum up:  it's probably not worth it.  In the current optimal Nether Void builds, the 2 spots you have allocated to Ancestral and Time Walk are currently occupied by Skeletal Scrying.  

Ancestral IS superior, but you end up making your mana base more fragile to support it.  Time Walk is often a nice cantrip, but put simply:  there are cards better suited to this kind of deck.  Making the blue splash should really include something more than just these 2 cards - otherwise, as I said before, you're just making a very fragile mana base.

Basically, I don't think this is a good enough idea.  Blue doesn't fit into the style of the deck at this point in time.  As an overall deck, Nether Void is control based, but it's not pre-emptive like blue.

However, you might like to experiment with a primarily blue-based deck with Nether Void built in to fit it.  That might prove far more worthwhile than trying to start with a primarily black-based deck.

Hope this helps  

[johnstown713]

I know a lot of people might disagree but I hate skeletal scrying and think it is not a good enough draw card.  Unlike time walk and ancestral it has no synergy with yagmoths will.  They just don't work for me and since Void is a control deck the time walk and ancestral fit nicely.  They give you cards for cheap and more time.  Even under void they are still playable but skeletal isn't really.

[JACO]

I know a lot of people might disagree but I hate skeletal scrying and think it is not a good enough draw card.  Unlike time walk and ancestral it has no synergy with yagmoths will.  They just don't work for me and since Void is a control deck the time walk and ancestral fit nicely.  They give you cards for cheap and more time.  Even under void they are still playable but skeletal isn't really.

The problem with the deck that you have presented is that you're significantly weakening the mana-base to play two blue cards (only one of which generates any card advantage), and none in the sideboard. This opens you up to more Wastelands, Blood Moon, Back to Basics, Price of Progress, Dust Bowl, etc. Anybody will admit that Ancestral Recall is much better than Skeletal Scrying, but in the deck I would much rather play Skeletal Scrying than Time Walk. I was the one who originally suggested Skeletal Scrying to everbody in my primer here, and it really fits in the deck, because if you're playing the deck correctly, it's essentially a tempo deck, and Scrying is a good tempo card in here. In most cases you are casting on the 3rd to 5th turns to cycle for a few cards at opponent's end step, and even later in the game it turns into a huge bomb when you can draw 5-7 cards if you and your opponent are both topdecking. In summation, fracturing the mana base for essentially Ancestral Recally is not worth it in my opinion.

[mrieff]

I would agree not to use blue.
You need al the   you can get with your deck. Your mana base becomes so much vulnerable, that adding 2 slightly less powerfull alternatives will improve the deck overall.